No More Love for GoProud

[chance1]

Remind anyone of the barroom scene from Star Wars.

stolen from Steve Schmidt

 

[rareboy]

Remind anyone of the barroom scene from Star Wars.

omg.

You have to be shitting me.

This is the best that they can do?

I think that it is pretty clear that CPAC has no more wind left in its sails.

 

[chrisrobin]

This is the best that they can do?

No. They forgot Michelle Bachmann, Piyush Jindal and Marco Rubio.

I think that it is pretty clear that CPAC has no more wind left in its sails.

Plenty of wind: no sails.

 

[chance1]

It's like an alcoholic hitting rock bottom

It has to happen for change to take place

Perhaps this is their moment of clarity

 

[Apollo]

Who? Meg Whitman for example isn't an prominent republican leader. She's operating a company right now on the brink of bankruptcy (what a surprise). Yeah, I do think they are incapable of reading the writing on the wall and they'll stick to their egos rather than admitting they are wrong. I'd rather see them go down to a third rate political party.

Ebay is turning around actually. Not under Meg's lead of course, but yeah. Ebay is doing just fine. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/28/b...r-internet-companies.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Also, the republicans are reading the writing on the wall. They held a closed door session a few months ago discussing the problem, but I think their problem is, they don't know how to change. They fucked themselves into a corner when they redid some of the congressional district maps. Now they must pander to ultraconservative people or risk loosing their seat to truely ultra-conservative rivals. Another big problem with that scenario is the fact that they might be able to win congressional seats with ultraconservative view points, but they will never will the Presidency like that.

 

[Apollo]

Meg wrecked ebay while she was in charge. And I wasn't talking about ebay. I was talking about the company she is in charge of now.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/02/21/hp-fourth-quarter-earnings/1936817/

Their profits fell 16%... less than expected lol. I guess that's "progress". That company is so screwed... and their laptops have fallen badly in quality. I used to swear by HP... not anymore.

Sure they don't know how to change... and that's a problem. Many of their biggest fundraisers are socially conservative, and that's also another problem.

Edit: Btw, after reading that article Ebay is far from fine. Amazon is still eating away at their profits, and they still are terrible for people selling anything. I gave up using them after they took increasingly large portions of what I sold.

In all truth, HP was going downhill long before she took the helm. I still remember the Touchpad, but I got in on that fire sale the moment I heard about it. WebOS is an absolutely amazing mobile OS to this day. At least the company that owns the software now is gonna use it.

Amazon and Ebay aren't really the same company to be honest though. But Amazon has always been very successful. Jeff Bezos is like a less stylish Steve Jobs, and absolute genius when it comes to business. It's really craigslist and bookoo that are fucking up Ebay.

Regardless though, this isn't the thread for such conversations. Really it isn't about Meg Whitman either. She is just one of the people on that list. Not only that, unless you read tech blogs, you won't know her name. A bigger name on there is the highly successful Clint Eastwood. If there is any republican that will rally young republicans into accepting homosexuals and their causes, it's him.

 

[Apollo]

^^^ I dunno, I had a Compaq from 2005 that lasted for five years of continuous abuse

Love me my new Toshiba though

All about Asus for me. I have never though HP was an appealing brand. They always made ugly computers with the worst crapware of all of them.

 

[Just_Believe18]

GoProud..wtf is with the name if they do everything they can to sweep under the rug their gay identity and STILL can't get the cnservative base to accept and welcome them? If you're gonna get fucked, be a power bottom...not subservient one only taking it to fulfill your duties. There's nothing "proud" about them.

Haha! Oh snap!

 

[Apollo]

She didn't inspire any confidence and she's a horrible CEO. Lets not beat around the bush.

Ummm what bush?

Amazon has the option for people to sell their stuff... ebay has auction format, but it seems like the "buy it now" format is more popular than auctions right now. Ebay is still screwed up... and Paypal is even more fucked up. Craigslist and Bookoo aren't the ones... most people are switching over to Amazon to sell their stuff because there are less listing fees.

As someone who is a tech geek, I can tell you Amazon is not about auctions at all. Amazon has always been about selling things through their service from other companies. Usually if Amazon doesn't personally sell something they will list 3rd party sellers. But you will really not see the 3rd party sellers if Amazon can sell it first.

Craigslist has no listing price and it promotes easier reach to local buyers. Same with bookoo. Well bookoo is made for that. Only recently does Bookoo charge to post pictures...which is probably still cheaper than listing on Amazon. Ebay has recently been trying to encrouch on Amazon's turf and Amazon is bitch slapping them. But really, all Ebay wants to do is get a foothold in Amazons market to make a good profit.

Buuuuut, you are you, and I could post Amazon's official business model and you still wouldn't believe me. So I stop it here.

I can assure many people here in California still remember her name. And Clint Eastwood... empty chair... he's lost his marbles a while ago. He's not the one to help the GOP. He's stuck in a different era.

I'm not an apologist.

Yeeeeah, Clint Eastwood keeps putting out Oscar nominated and winning movies and producing even more high quality movies. Meg Whitman...well California knows who she is apparently (a blue state). IMO, Clint Eastwood will and has gotten the bigger focus as the signer on the petition. Celebrity trumps shitty CEO anyday.

 

[Apollo]

It's saying. Whitman is still a shitty CEO.



Uh what? I never claimed Amazon was about auctions, but if people want to sell Amazon is better. I have a sellers account on there and have sold a variety of things. I have sold things faster on Amazon too.



Don't really care. I was talking about Amazon and Ebay. Ebay fails miserably and so does its Paypal which is even a bigger disaster. And FYI, I am also a tech geek.



What does that mean? I know what Amazon's business model is, and I know what Ebays is too.



So what? The Oscars isn't the end all to all great movies. I don't really care for it anymore. And his last movie was not high quality. And what about knowing Whitman? She's not popular here. Eastwood lost a step or two. He's not a great actor/director anymore.

Is there a response here to what I said? I'm still waiting. My point was about Whitman. Not about the terribly out of touch Eastwood.

Well obviously Meg is shitty at her job. HP is still trying to recover and well we saw how she left Ebay.

I guess I did misinterpret your post, but I still wouldn't say Amazon is the one destroying Ebay. Amazon has always done Amazon and Ebay has always done Ebay and they lived in harmony for all these years. Problem is, when Ebay attempted to branch out into "Buy it Now" more and acting like they were Amazon, they started loosing their auction customer base. But Ebay never collapsed or failed, and they are coming back strongly too.

Sorry, but when people hear Clint Eastwood's name. They know who he is, they know his movies. The older folks know his earlier work. Whether he has skipped a step or two is honestly irrelevant. No one really knows that, if it is true at all. And most people will be surprised (kinda) he signed this brief. It will hopefully cause some young and old alike republicans to think their positions.

Especially with a lot of younger men seeing Gran Tarino and most likely thinking how much of a complete badass he was in the movie.

 

[Apollo]

Ebay did it to themselves and Paypal is one of the WORST I have ever dealt with. I'm still looking for a viable alternative to Paypal, but what sucks is there aren't widely used alternatives. And by the way, there are big sellers on Ebay that get way more attention than others. And I don't think their "comeback" is that strong. It's sorta like Myspace's "comeback"... it's a bit weak.



And? I know who he is too. Does that make me sympathetic to him? No. He completely blew his credibility in that idiotic swipe on Obama. As far as republicans changing... I don't see it happening, regardless if he signed it or not.

I doubt it. Most people arent as vehemently supportive of Obama as you are. Not to mention, this isnt about democrats and Obama supporters, this is about him rallying a republican, conservative base to accept homosexuality and homosexual causes. Most likely, the people we want supporting us also supported his swipe at Obama.

I know for a lot of people, someone who supports republicans and conservative viewpoints can't possibly also support gay issues and rights. But, speaking from experience, it is incredibly easy for them to do so. And the more conservatives Clint can bring to the support table. The happier I am.

As for comparing Ebay to Myspace. That is so off. Myspace DIED. DIED DIED DIED. Ebay lost a few sales and some customers. Myspace needs to rebrand ENTIRELY and change their focus. Ebay is still doing fine in the auction space and starting to come back into it.

 

[Apollo]

Oh puh-leaze. I am not "vehemently supportive of Obama". I am one who can make up my own mind and I don't need anyone else defining the way I think and believe. I don't care for republicans, certainly not ones here in California who are declining in number. I don't care for the conservative or republican base either. I don't care if they support the gay community... much of what republicans support is repugnant and destructive to this country.

BTW, I always gave Obama a B-/C+ rating. He's done decently, but hasn't taken the bull by its horns... I wish for stronger initiative on his part. Certainly better than the F- rating I give the republicans in the Congress.



And that's true. Anyone who supports the republican party in its present state can't support gay issues. They need to shift their entire views politically. I'm indifferent if a few support equal rights... there are so many other issues I have with their viewpoints.



http://www.imediaconnection.com/content/32367.asp

Myspace had a bit of a mini-comeback. Ebay and Myspace are far from fine. Ebay still isn't doing that great.

I believe your hatred of the republican party is well documented on this forum. You as bad as the republicans on this board. You will never admit when they have a good point of plan or have done something decent like 100 prominent or retired republicans signing this brief and submitting it to the Supreme Court.

It is because of your hatred of repubicans and conservatives that you believe they could never support gay issues. That is a complete and utter lie on your part. Nothing is black and white. There are plenty of liberals who are strictly agaisnt gay rights and gays as are there republicans who would quickly go to a gay pride parade in support of homosexuality. I say this because I know a few of them.

Conservatives will always exist. That is just the truth of the matter. You will always have conservatives vs liberal thinking and they will spawn parties arguing these view points. It's just human nature. Everything has a opposite, an opposing force to keep the other in check.

 

[Sausy]

I believe your hatred of the republican party is well documented on this forum. You as bad as the republicans on this board. You will never admit when they have a good point of plan or have done something decent like 100 prominent or retired republicans signing this brief and submitting it to the Supreme Court.

It is because of your hatred of repubicans and conservatives that you believe they could never support gay issues. That is a complete and utter lie on your part. Nothing is black and white. There are plenty of liberals who are strictly agaisnt gay rights and gays as are there republicans who would quickly go to a gay pride parade in support of homosexuality. I say this because I know a few of them.

Conservatives will always exist. That is just the truth of the matter. You will always have conservatives vs liberal thinking and they will spawn parties arguing these view points. It's just human nature. Everything has a opposite, an opposing force to keep the other in check.

You're sounding like Spock here

 

[rareboy]

Uh...and this is all about GoProud...how????????????????

 

[lambdaboy]

Anyone that even votes republican and is a gay or lesbian is an ass hole

 

[CoolBlue71]

GoProud is in good company

Chris Christie wasn't invited either

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is gay?

 

[CoolBlue71]

California republicans?

Mainly Orange County (Santa Ana).

@ http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2013/01/saving-the-orange-county-republican-party/
@ http://news.msn.com/politics/with-only-30-percent-of-voters-calif-gop-pins-hopes-on-new-chairman

Those guys are declining in influence big time... they lost all sorts of districts in the last election (Mary Bono Mack for one). The republican party in California is almost in the dustbin (and party affiliation wise they are down below 30% of the population). They are such a non-factor it's kinda funny.

Pete Wilson and his stance on immigration. George W. Bush was the last Republican presidential candidate who carried California. And, in 1988, he underperformed in Calif. relative to his national margin. He won nationally, over Michael Dukakis, by R+7.73 and carried Calif. by R+3.57. He also had underperformances in Illinois and Pennsylvania. These three states easily flipped to Bill Clinton, who unseated Bush, in 1992. And they haven't voted for a Republican since the 41st president's victory in 1988. (This is also true with the Calif.'s two U.S. senate seats.) With Republicans in Calif., they're essentially dead because the most they tend to ever win are an election to the governorship.

 

[opinterph]

Anyone that even votes republican and is a gay or lesbian is an ass hole

I often choose the Republican ballot to cast my vote in primary elections.

 

[Apollo]

And what good points or plans do they have? The republican party doesn't have any good plans. What is coming out of the House of Representatives in the Committee on the Budget headed by Paul Ryan? Absolutely fucking nothing.

This is what I was talking about.

I'm not going to sugarcoat the party to try to make them look better. They make themselves look bad, hence why they got whipped on election day.

Again

What is a complete and utter lie? The fact that republicans are mostly social conservatives? This is reality. I am not talking about exceptions, but looking at the BIGGER PICTURE. And I still LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE and KNOW liberals and those on the left are FAR MORE SUPPORTIVE of equal rights than those int he republican party by many times. I don't care about a few of them. I care about the BIGGER PICTURE.

I never really see you get in the bigger debates on this board about the issues. I notice your posts pop up when there is an opening to bash the republicans. You're gaining no new people to the cause by only bashing republicans, and the republicans on this board only troll you. I noticed that awhile ago. You never let anything drop until you get the last word, no matter if you're wrong. So Jack Springer and the like always play games with you.

What is this conservative vs liberal thing? The world doesn't work that way. At least countries outside of America. Politicalcompass.org does a decent job defining political spectrum but even that is not perfect. The world isn't black and white as said... it's far more complex. I am not a "liberal". I am a social democrat and a green. I view the democratic party here in America as still too much in the pockets of corporations. Republicans are even deeper in it.

I know you say you aren't a democrat, but you only ever play liberal vs. democrat on this board. Maybe in real life you are more objective in your viewpoints?

I'm not one who is going to sugarcoat what the republican party really stands for because of some hatred for those on the left. My point has been made.

huh?

Anyway, I just wanted to get that out there. I knew what your responses were going to be and you did not disapoint at all. I also know you want to write to me to mind my own business and I don't know anything about you. Or something close to that effect. You will repeat you at not a liberal. Bash republicans, close out with how right you are blah blah. Again, this has been fun again.

 

[maxpowr9]

Anyway, I just wanted to get that out there. I knew what your responses were going to be and you did not disapoint at all. I also know you want to write to me to mind my own business and I don't know anything about you. Or something close to that effect. You will repeat you at not a liberal. Bash republicans, close out with how right you are blah blah. Again, this has been fun again.

Then you wonder I say each side has their own shills and get hated on by both sides for that comment. A free-thinking individual would be able to identify the good and bad in everything AND admit when they're wrong. Who says the "right" is the only side that spews hate...

Anyone that even votes republican and is a gay or lesbian is an ass hole