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North Korea declares War

Another problem this may cause is that a new arms race will develop in the far east, with Japan and in particular South Korea scrambling for nuclear deterrents. However this would merely overwhelm the already outnumbered Kim.

This is probably the worst foriegn policy that Kim has done, as he has lost the vital support of his powerful ally, China. And now he will pay a heavy price in the form of sanctions. Hopefully this will cause him to give into pressure and drop his nuclear programme- that should be the logical step, if he is clever and careful enough. He does have that other choice and that is to retaliate, maybe against Seoul. However he cannot do this without wiping himself and his country out.
 
The sanctions that have been agreed upon with China so far sound pretty lame to me -- luxury goods and "some weapons" can't be exported. And who knows if even they will be rigorously enforced.

I don't think sanctions work. The US has had sanctions on Cuba for going on 50 years now -- notice how they've really brought Castro to his knees! And the sanctions on Iraq before the war only made Saddam richer and corrupted the UN.

I think the number one priority in N. Korea should be to create a wedge to open up their society. They've been so closed off for so long that even a minor presence of foreign projects, and foreigners, could have a big impact.

S. Korea has substantially opened up trade with them, and set up factories in N. Korea. I think we should support this -- not of course under any illusion that it will persuade Kim to renounce his nuclear ambitions, but as part of a longterm strategies to bring this "rogue state" back into the rest of the world.
 
I think the real situation with North Korea, is that if we (the int'l community) wanted to shut his nation off, South Korea and China could seal the nation completely and in essence wait him out until he has no alternative but to compromise. In essence turn the tables on him, instead of NK detonate nuclear bomb tests to force us to make a deal.
 
It'll be the Korean War all over again.. And don't think China isn't behind this all.

BTW, N. Korea is gearing up for a 2nd Nuclear test as we speak. With a clear defiance to sanctions (and China being less enthusiastic to do their part) what other option is left except war?
 
One of the reasons China is wary of getting too aggressive with N.Korea is that a war will cause a flood of refugees into China's northern provinces.
 
One of the reasons China is wary of getting too aggressive with N.Korea is that a war will cause a flood of refugees into China's northern provinces.
Yeah, not to mention an international nuclear playground just next to one of the most prosperous corners of their backyard.
 
Notice how N. Korea is toning it down now? I think China realizes its still too "soon."
 
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