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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35594245
Apple will contest a court order to help FBI investigators access data on the phone belonging to San Bernardino gunman Syed Rizwan Farook.


On the one hand I think Apple are being very high handed in refusing to help put a dangerous psychopath in jail
BUT
On the other hand I do think they have a duty of care to protect their users' data
 
Apple has no choice but to contest the order.

I can't believe, though, that they haven't found a back-door way to comply.

And what the hell is all the NSA surveillance good for if they can't crack something as simple as this?
 
For 6 months the NSA Tracked two of the terrorists that Crashed into the WTC. They were staying less than 3 miles from there headquarters in Maryland and get this were going to school to learn to fly the the NSA just dropped the case a few months before 9/11 they are fucking ass hole. There is a game on the internet where you use your mouse to land planes at an airport its a sight with Airforceone on it was on the site FOG Free online games. like this one http://www.freeonlinegames.com/game/sim-air-traffic. One day I was playing the silly thing and norton told me they blocked a site from going on my computer it was Home Land Security. These people are ass holes any thing they find they do nothing with. In that game when Airforce one was coming in you could not land anything I thought I would get in on time when the intrusion came. God would never bless America!
 
Although I believe the accused has admitted to truly terrorist activity, I do not concur that the fact trumps all other civil rights. There are numerous parallels in other dimensions of discovery that are out of reach of the investigators. Many times there is reason to believe that the perpetrators of crimes discussed their plans with others, yet mere suspicion is not basis for taking any actions necessary to get the others to talk.

What if the FBI or CIA was sure a terrorist discussed plans with his wife? Without evidence, they have no right to arrest without proof. They have no right to torture those who may know something.

When a government takes such actions, they have become an evil that is as threatening as any potential terrorism.

The prosecution of this case should not be dependent upon this phone's data. His actions were his actions. The truth is that they believe they can net bigger fish with the information. The bigger fish got away this time.

I am no Apple worshipper, but I defend their stance. If the government can win the day in a terrorism case, there will be no limitation of this and it will be deployed against others like Mr. Snowden when it is merely a punitive intrusion rather than protection of the people.
 
I read the article but I don't get it, it is not really clear what the Bureau is asking.
I believe Apple fears that if they upload a modified version of the iOS then the FBI can perform a reverse engineering on it and create their own software which they will use to unlock any Apple device.

If that's the case, they should ask an Apple engineer do the hacking, then after they copy the content of the device on an FBI hard-drive the Apple employee should overwrite the modified iOS with the original commercial version, so the FBI don't get their hands on it.

But I believe that Apple is wrong to refuse collaborating, they should find a middle ground, there is a limit to privacy protection.
 
LeicsDom said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35594245
Apple will contest a court order to help FBI investigators access data on the phone belonging to San Bernardino gunman Syed Rizwan Farook.


On the one hand I think Apple are being very high handed in refusing to help put a dangerous psychopath in jail
BUT
On the other hand I do think they have a duty of care to protect their users' data
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I guess there are only 9 Amendments now, the government is shredding the 4th.
 
Any backdoor provides a security risk to users from third parties. If Apple is to provide a truly secure environment then they're best placed to defend the concept.

No other tech company has had deep enough pockets to do the same.
 
If Apple knows how to obtain the information, they have no basis for resisting the court order to produce it, any more than a bank, or accountant can resist a court order to produce information, or even to resist a search warrant. The terrorists have lost their right of privacy by their crime. BUT it is not clear that Apple currently has the technical knowledge to access the information without extensive research. It is doubtful that the court has jurisdiction to order Apple to conduct research to find a way to obtain the information.
 
The problem with security backdoors is creep.
First the FBI wants warrant-access, then the NSA wants an open door to monitor everything, then the local police want to goof about on the phones of people nearby with warrantless searches, then even the local city is demanding access to ensure you're paying the right city taxes.

All worthy establishments full of self-important people who are more nosey than anything else.

Then lo and behold, Nigerian based scammers are hacking everyone's phones again through gaping security holes made large enough for even the most incompetent agencies to access.
 
Benvolio said:
If Apple knows how to obtain the information, they have no basis for resisting the court order to produce it, any more than a bank, or accountant can resist a court order to produce information, or even to resist a search warrant. The terrorists have lost their right of privacy by their crime. BUT it is not clear that Apple currently has the technical knowledge to access the information without extensive research. It is doubtful that the court has jurisdiction to order Apple to conduct research to find a way to obtain the information.
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Apple has already stated that they'd have to reverse engineer the operating system on the phone. Once that is done, if ANYONE were to get that, they would have access to every IPhone on the planet.
 
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