Not sure where to put this - Misogyny.

[jdoe4822]

I don't really hang around gay guys so I can't speak for the community itself. I hang around all straight guys so most conversations involve lots of "that's what she said" and jokes about various guy's mothers as well as the normal lewd, crude straight guy remarks about every attractive girl that walks by.

for me personally, I don't know if you'd say I'm misogynyst.

As far as the "glass ceiling" in the workplace, I work for a small family run company and our president/ceo and owner is a woman as are many of my coworkers. I'd say in general she does a fine job (and has an award/trophy case to prove it), and in a job setting, I really don't what your gender (or race or sexual orientation or anything else) is as long as you are competent and skilled at what your job is. I'd have no problem if John McCain was to pick Condi Rice as his running mate (ok fine I secretly hope he does).

Outside of a professional environment, it gets a little more murky. I don't know if my problem is with women per se so much as with the feminine in general. I don't hang out with or associate with girls at all, but then again, nor do I have any desire to be around fem guys either. When I think of the feminine, it is characterized by superficiality, drama, weakness/meekness, emotional overload, etc. This hostility probably can be traced by a very expensive psychologist to my overbearing mother, sister, and all the other women I was surrounded with as a child (and the coinciding lack of men).

that being said, I have no inherent revulsion to the pussy. My straight friends swear up and down its the most amazing feelin thing ever, and even a lot of bi guys i talk to say its better than an ass. I dunno, I'd probably be willing to try a 3some with another hot guy just to see what it feels like. reminds me of the old joke from high school about the useless flap of skin around the vagina being called a woman...but I'll stop there.

yeah dunno...maybe its just those kinds of girls. I do joke about girls I'd go straight for...Cali Duqense on CSI Miami walking into her armory and saying "be still my heart" (ok fine, girls with guns in general), Vicki Butler Henderson on 5th gear getting all giddy about the sound and power of a Ferrari, Allison Cameron shutting House up by saying (about another nurse he had been making lewd remarks about), "no I'm hitting that. and let me tell you its freaking hot."

 

[megustamyn]

Misogyny is literally hatred of women. In a broader sense, it also refers to the relegation of women to a status that is somehow inferior to men and is closely related to racism and other forms of bigotry.

I believe that misogyny is the basis of homophobia. Some people believe that in homosexual acts, some men are treated like women and thus all men are demeaned. It is thought to be demeaning for a man to want to be treated as a woman or for a man to want to treat another man as a woman. It is also thought offensive for a woman (lesbian) to behave like a man or for a woman to allow another woman to be like a man to her. This attitude displays ignorance of homosexuality in general and also of male/female relationships.

I always believed in gender equality because I saw my mother compete in the workplace and in society in general to support her children. I respect women as friends, colleagues and as human beings.

I always found it easier to have female friends than male friends because there is much less chance of sexual tension. (Interestingly, I’ve learned that a couple of women friends from my youth were surprised to learn that I have been living with a man for many years because they thought they dated me in my youth. In my recollection, we were merely good friends.)

Although I appreciate women from an esthetic standpoint and I’ve even known a few whom I found desirable (that’s how I ended up with children), I generally find women ‘icky’ from a sexual standpoint. That does not make me a misogynist; it may be evidence that I’m gay. I love women but there are parts of them that I have no interest in.

When I first became involved in the gay community, I saw a lot of separatism between the sexes. I think that was an extension of the feminist movement. Today I see less tension between the genders among GLBT people than among straight people, although there are a few holdouts in the older generations.

 

[Chalchalero]

I have been accused of being a misogynist several times in my life, mostly through misunderstandings, however.

There are several lovely ladies with whom I have a wonderful time. We have lunch together, we shop together, we travel together, we give dinner parties together...

I believe my problem is mainly with the overly aggressive feminist or professional woman. I don't know why, but those kinds of women make me very uncomfortable and I steer clear of them as much as possible.

That does not mean I hate women though.

I do hate having to watch 45 different feminine products adverts while trying to watch television when I am in New York. Only America has this strange obsession. It is most disturbing.

And I hate having to hear constantly about how women are marginalised. What absolute bollocks...Women have it better today than most men. Every American television program is geared towards women. They can marry up, simply by offering some millionaire a little roll in the hay, they can play the tough professional when it suits them and then turn on the waterworks and the "Little Red Riding Hood" persona comes out in a flash...and more importantly, they can wear Chanel. I refuse to feel sorry for anyone who gets to wear Chanel!

 

[Muskox]

In my small dictionary, Misogyny means hatred of women. That doesn't describe me; I am indifferent to women in general situations. When I get to know a woman, I may like her or not; that depends on the person. In general situations, it is men that I notice and have an intrinsic interest in. Even men for whom I have no interest in being friends with or having sex with are, at the same time, worth seeing and meeting. That's why I identify myself as gay. Men are a turn-on simply because they are men.

 

[Caeth]

My preliminary feelings about this subject is that this perception comes more from the liberal leanings of gay men rather than their gayness. I don't mean conservative or liberal politically...I mean liberal in the mindset towards relationships. This mindset follows because gay men don't need women or "feminine" characteristics in their mates...therefore the traditional roles of man and woman in a relationship are broken in gay relationships.

The liberal mindset (in this specific circumstance) has little tolerance for women acting in their traditional roles. The traditional role of a woman IS weaker than a man. I can see how this comes off as misogynist....it's not that we don't like women...we just don't like women acting like they're stupid/inferior.

Speaking from personal experience...I don't tolerate women who act subservient/stupid very well. You are a woman in the 21st century- learn how to handle finances, learn how to operate a computer, don't always do what your man wants. I had this experience today...my mom got a new keyboard and mouse because her old ones don't work. She told me I had to connect it to her computer. Is it really that hard to turn the box around and match the hole and wire together? Or fine...even ask how it's done so you can do it yourself next time. No- that's the man's role...it's all technical mumbo-jumbo. (My mom is 41 btw)

So in short...I don't open doors for women, I don't get up from my seat for a woman, and I don't expect the same back. Imagine the stereotype of a southern belle...THAT's the epitome of what I'm talking about.

 

[mojoe54]

So here's another instance of misogyny in gay men. Many of them do not like lesbians,which I don't understand. Gay men and lesbians should get along well together,since both groups battle the same societal prejudices, and there is certainly no competition for sex partners. So why do so many gay men make disparaging comments about lesbians? I don't understand it.
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