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Obama Aides Annoyed at Joe Biden

Rolyo85 said:
Cheney has a heart?
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Yes. They had to surgically put one in him to discredit the news he didn't have one. Wonder who the poor person they ripped it out of was. Unfortunately it pumps ice water.
 
T-Rexx said:
You can't argue in a political campaign that your position is that you are "evolving." Voters don't like vague statements or wishy-washy candidates. Obama is now clearly way ahead of Romney on this issue. Republicans are increasingly reluctant to discuss gay marriage, as they increasingly realize that they are on the wrong side of this issue - both the wrong side of history and the wrong side of popular opinion.

What's more, the president (finally!) coming out in favor of gay marriage will further help to swing public opinion in this direction, especially among blacks. It is better that it happen now, rather than later in the campaign, as it allows more time for voters to realize the correctness of this position. This is a win-win proposition for Obama and a lose-lose proposition for Romney.

Biden has helped the president a lot.
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And a couple of "family values" leaders have been just about forced to admit they want a theocracy. If clearer statements can be pulled from them, they'll start losing followers, and people will be energized to vote against the GOP.
 
MystikWizard said:
I question whether or not this entire thing was planned and if Biden was simply used as a puppet to test the waters and the reactions of the American public ... to see if they thought it was safe for Obama to endorse it, frankly. This whole thing that "Obama aides are frustrated with Biden" may simply be a ruse.

I don't know.
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You may have something there. I like it.
 
Kulindahr said:
And a couple of "family values" leaders have been just about forced to admit they want a theocracy. If clearer statements can be pulled from them, they'll start losing followers, and people will be energized to vote against the GOP.
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It would be good for more to follow, but they already lost the women. I think the Latinos are there. More would do.
 
MystikWizard said:
I question whether or not this entire thing was planned and if Biden was simply used as a puppet to test the waters and the reactions of the American public ... to see if they thought it was safe for Obama to endorse it, frankly. This whole thing that "Obama aides are frustrated with Biden" may simply be a ruse.

I don't know.
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Not to poke fun at you MW.

BUT this has been the tone I have heard recently. Biden test the water, Obama comes out for, then bullying gay kids story breaks... all a carefully plotted ruse by the mainstream media who are of course in cahoots with the POTUS to create one world order. ... muwahahhahahaha...

I keep hearing that on various radio media and i am sure I can find it on right wing blogs.

For the me the bottom line is Obama validated (once again) me as a human being deserving the same rights as all others. THAT is solid. I could care less what machinations were in play.
 
JayHawk said:
Not to poke fun at you MW.

BUT this has been the tone I have heard recently. Biden test the water, Obama comes out for, then bullying gay kids story breaks... all a carefully plotted ruse by the mainstream media who are of course in cahoots with the POTUS to create one world order. ... muwahahhahahaha...

I keep hearing that on various radio media and i am sure I can find it on right wing blogs.

For the me the bottom line is Obama validated (once again) me as a human being deserving the same rights as all others. THAT is solid. I could care less what machinations were in play.
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had not heard that one ........ anywhere

all 3 events connected?

my world is simpler

Biden was Biden
The President had to/wanted to/was gonna ........ whatever

The Washington Post piece was conveniently available - timing is everything right?

I think if you don't think the Mitt is a bully piece wasn't teed up for maximum "impression" and designed to kneel at the altar of the great one well .................. I'd like to see you my used car

I think Biden should do a victory lap
 
chance1 said:
had not heard that one ........ anywhere

all 3 events connected?

my world is simpler

Biden was Biden
The President had to/wanted to/was gonna ........ whatever

The Washington Post piece was conveniently available - timing is everything right?

I think if you don't think the Mitt is a bully piece wasn't teed up for maximum "impression" and designed to kneel at the altar of the great one well .................. I'd like to see you my used car

I think Biden should do a victory lap
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Ya mean something like the swift boats?
 
Chance they held the Mitt story when Obama's press secretary informed them he would announce for gay marriage. That was specific timing.

As much as it is easy to say Biden was Biden I think VERY LITTLE comes out of Obama's White house unplanned. Too many coincidences.

But in the end it doesn't really matter. What is done is WONDERFUL for us little (gay) people.
 
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