Obama costs more than the royal family

[bankside]

Queen = Head of State, not head of government

President= Head of State, Head of government, Commander-in-chief.

Royal Family: Travels for goodwill. State visits to Her realms are paid for by other countries.

President: travels to represent country, all paid for by US taxpayers.

Royal Family: subjects of adoration

Presidents: targets of assassins.

Royal Family: controls several lovely castles

President: controls nuclear warheads

Not really a comparison, now, is it?

A visit to a Realm is not a State Visit. State Visits are for foreigners. For example, she is the Queen of Canada. If she rules other countries in her spare time, that is her business. If she goes outside the Commonwealth Realms, the taxpayers foot the bill for the Realm on whose behalf she is travelling.

The Queen is also Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of at least one country with nuclear armaments, and can dismiss the Government.

She was once the bridesmaid of a cousin whose princely father was assassinated. And we all know that assassination of royalty can start a world war.

She's the real deal.

 

[evanrick]

Well it costs a lot of money to federally fund medicare and food stamps in those poor red states also.

 

[rareboy]

So for all the Obama haters out there who are in need of another 'insider' book on why you should hate this man, his wife, his daughters and their dog...this is what the cover looks like.

Buy one for everyone in your family for Christmas or just wait for the shoutrage sound bites to dribble out of FOX, Breitbarf, Limbaugh and Drudge so that you can trot one excess after another to this forum in order to prove that Obama is the most evil president ever.

I would say though that one of the areas that cost a lot of money in the US is the Presidential plane. Who made the country so damned big, anyway. Why didn't they just leave it the same size as England....costs so much less to fly their Royalnesses around the postage sized island.

We're all waiting.

 

[Laufey]

Well wasn't the Air Force One designed so it's possible to run the government from it?

 

[rareboy]

Yes,

And one of the curses of being President running for re-election is that you are required to take this plane.

But oh. The salacious 'inside' details.

Obama 'apparently' has 26 crew on board.

Including 5 chefs. 'Apparently'.

And the dog-walker, paid $102,000 per year and the dog were 'apparently' the only passengers on one flight.

I suspect that we'll find out that 'apparently' AF1 has been making secret trips back and forth to Kenya; I can't say because I haven't yet read the book or heard the reliable journalists at Fox and Fiends sputter in outrageous indignation yet.

Get ready to be regaled with this book as the author is out on his promotional tour in order to get one of his 'insider' tomes into every Republican's stocking this Christmas.

 

[rareboy]

Oh by the way.

The book has been out since July 2012,

Wonder why FOX et al really din't make much out of it during the election campaign.

Could it be that the facts didn't even pass their incredibly low bar??????????????????????

 

[rareboy]

^ You'll have to read Robert K. Gray's tell all book to find out.

It is the source for this 'news' story.

I'm sure he provides irrefutable sources for his figures.

 

[White Eagle]

Yes,

And one of the curses of being President running for re-election is that you are required to take this plane.

But oh. The salacious 'inside' details.

Obama 'apparently' has 26 crew on board.

Including 5 chefs. 'Apparently'.

And the dog-walker, paid $102,000 per year and the dog were 'apparently' the only passengers on one flight.

I suspect that we'll find out that 'apparently' AF1 has been making secret trips back and forth to Kenya; I can't say because I haven't yet read the book or heard the reliable journalists at Fox and Fiends sputter in outrageous indignation yet.

Get ready to be regaled with this book as the author is out on his promotional tour in order to get one of his 'insider' tomes into every Republican's stocking this Christmas.

Here is/are the facts of the trip to Hawaii. It's too early to figure out which is appropriate.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/12/bo-gate-coverup-starts-unravel


Bo-Gate: The Coverup Starts to Unravel

—By Kevin Drum
| Fri Dec. 23, 2011 9:34 AM PST

-skip-

So apparently the White House is doubling down on its coverup. They say Bo didn't go to Hawaii. They say Bo didn't fly back to Virginia the next day in order to stage a photo op with President Obama. They say Bo doesn't have his own private 747 to ferry him around the country. And they obviously used their well-honed Chicago thug tactics to force Scott Miscovich to recant. It's just like Darkness at Noon.

 

[rareboy]

^ Just shocking.

The Queen doesn't fly her corgis all over the US in a private jet. Why should Obama?

 

[Just_Believe18]

In the conservative worldview, costs and spending don't matter until a Democrat is doing it. We've seen this over and over again. The cost of having a President is *now* a problem? The DEFICIT is NOW a problem? lol. Didn't hear that crap in 2004.

Quoted for truth.

And that's all that needed to be said about this HenryReardon thread.

 

[rareboy]

In the 1992 book, The Power House by Susan B. Trento, "tells how Mr. Gray, after unabashedly peddling access for decades, reached the apex of his influence when his friend Ronald Reagan moved into the White House." [5] This book led to a defamation lawsuit by Gray against Trento and St. Martin's Press, in which Gray's claims were dismissed.[6]

5^ Darth Vader of the Lobbyists. By Stephen Labaton, The New York Times, August 23, 1992
6^ Gray v. St. Martin's Press, 221 F3d. 243, 1st Cir. 2000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Keith_Gray

The (book) has several claims worth fact-checking, including the idea that there are thirty-two "czars" now working in this Administration, a claim apparently inspired by Glen Beck's identical charge. Factcheck.org has debunked this as well as Politifact.

Michelle Obama's staff size also comes under scrutiny by Mr. Gray, who once again uses talk show host Glen Beck as his researcher. Back in February 2011, Beck claimed Michelle Obama had 43 staffers, compared to Nancy Reagan's 3. Once again, Politifact did some digging and found the claim to be inflated dramatically.

http://reasonableconversation.blogspot.ca/2012/09/is-obama-white-house-most-expensive-ever.html

So you see people...the reason that this shocking claim didn't get much air time or attention during the election season is that it was, as I originally noted....full of reeking bullshit and the claims made couldn't even begin to stand exposure to fact checking.

Poor Mr. Gray.

And just for the record. The publish date from the Guardian was :

PUBLISHED: 05:26 GMT, 29 September 2012 | UPDATED: 05:26 GMT, 29 September 2012

I don't know why Henry is only now tossing it out in front of the posters on this forum.

It isn't news.

And it isn't a current event.

The election's over Henry. Your candidate lost.

You don't need to insult our intelligence.