Obama on Rev. Jeremiah Wright

[iman]

JFK spoke to the nation on TV in June of 1963 and proposed an end of racial segregation and a week later sent a bill to Congress that would eventually become the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and signed into law by LBJ.

The Kennedy administration cleared the way for the March on Washington which made it possible for the event to succeed.

 

[seamusnewwest]

Aside from the fact that he's quite a leap from Hillary, considering how some of his positions are:

1) Hating "Gooks"
2) Wanting to keep Don't Ask Don't Tell
3) Against Gay marriages
4) Wants to continue the war on iraq
5) Wants to overturn Roe V. Wade
6) Against Universe Health Care
and many more

Yeah. I DO respect John McCain as a man, both for his overall respectful tenor, and for the experiences he has gone through. But I guess you could say he comes across like a "favorite uncle" who you don't always agree with. Respect for the man doesn't add up to support for his policies. I'll be supporting whoever gets the Democratic nomination. I just hope they are electable by November. If McCain becomes President, he'll almost certainly serve two terms. That could be a lot of Supreme Court judges.
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[seamusnewwest]

Why do you have a dog in the fight.......Mate?

I don't understand your comment.

 

[JackFTwist]

JFK ...

... left us a daughter and a brother who have passed the JFK mantle onto the candidate of their choosing, Barack Obama. I know you will honor JFK by respecting the wishes of his heirs.



Continue the JFK legacy; vote for Barack Obama!

 

[iman]

I choose to honor Bobby by voting for Clinton.

 

[Lostlover]

I choose to honor Bobby by voting for Clinton.

What election? 2012?

 

[Kulindahr]

In the year leading up to the invasion of Iraq, George Bush never actually said that Iraq was responsible for 9/11 or that Iraq was harboring Al Queda, but in polls taken after the war started it was determined that most Americans believed those things. It was the constant association by Bush and the people in his administration to link Iraq with 9/11 and Al Queda that misled the public into believing that Iraq, 9/11 and Al Queda were connscted.

Obama does the same thing by constantly invoking Dr. King and the Kennedys when talking about himself and invoking Bush, the past and racism when talking about Clinton. It works. Why else would he invoke the memory of King and Bobby Kennedy when talking about his political problems?

Because he believes in their words?

Don't be so cynical.

 

[Kulindahr]

Who and what is a Billary?

It was the JFK legacy that allowed Johnson to pass the 1964 Civil Rights Bill and pursue the war on poverty.

And allowed Johnson to send hundreds of thousands of Americans to Vietnam, many of whom never came home. That set the stage for later presidents believing they could just throw American military might around the globe -- like a certain GW Bush.

Great legacy.

 

[iman]

Because he believes in their words?

Don't be so cynical.

Because he uses their words for his own aggrandizement.

Don't be gullible.

 

[White Eagle]

I Would Rather Support Someone Who Is Homophobic Than Someone who is Close Friends,Yes "CLOSE FRIENDS FOR MANY YEARS'With A Minister Who Preaches Hate And Bigotry And Makes Statements Like America Brought 911 On Themselves And Almost Goes To The point Of saying Desrves It.I May Be Gay But I ,Am Also A White American And I,Am Ashamed And Offended By The Way White Americans Have Given This Hipocrit BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA A Free Ride.I Only Hope He Is Made To Face This And Not Sweep It Under The Rug!

You need to go to this thread by blueto21 and go to the link of Frank Schaeffer's article and read it. Obama's minister is not the only "Minister" that has denounced America. Read it. It is very eyeopening




http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207430

Obama's Minister Committed "Treason"....
Obama's Minister Committed "Treason" But When My Father Said the Same Thing He Was a Republican Hero

Great article by Frank Schaeffer:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b_91774.html

 

[Corny]

The problem with being Democrat is that if you vote for Obama, you're sexist. And if you vote for Hilary, you're racist. Its easy being a Republican. No matter what you're fucked up

 

[construct]

Great article by Frank Schaeffer:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/obamas-minister-committe_b_91774.html

Frankie Schaeffer turned out pretty good. I was a great admirer of his father Francis back when I was in college. Now, about the best thing I can say for him is that a reader can make a good list of must-read authors by seeing who he condemns. That's how I learned about the modern world. I just sought out everything that Francis Schaeffer condemned in The God Who Is There. His Death in the Citied was a broadside against modern American culture.

I have marveled at the reaction to Rev. Wright in light of the fact that there hasn't been a demand for a Catholic politician to disavow the Pope since Jack Kennedy was campaigning. The Pope is a much greater threat to American freedom than Rev. Wright. The Pope is a far more offensive religious figure than Rev. Wright and nobody was calling for Dodd or Kucinich or Biden or Richardson to denounce Pope Benedict. In light of the Obama situation, we might should have!

 

[chance1]

^ the pope is more "dangerous" than rev wright?

yikes

who'd a thought?

whatever

back to rev. wright

the more i see of him - and his comments - so many of them - so vicious - so anti american - so racist

and to see obama kinda trying to have it both ways - condemning the statements while also complaining about them being brought up kinda

not diggin obama's shit here

not at all

i think this is gonna live and breath

despite the ny times not covering it with any real conviction

isn't that strange?

mccain they attack

obama they ....................

yeah

 

[noah617]

so many of them

I've seen three so far: The Clinton N word one, the 9/11 one and the god damn one. Have there been more discovered?

 

[Kulindahr]

Because he uses their words for his own aggrandizement.

Don't be gullible.

So if he uses words you like but you don't want him to, it's aggrandizement.
The only standard you're employing here is your personal preference. I knew almost nothing of Obama before all the hubbub on JUB. I listen to him speak as I would anyone. So far, he's given no cause for believing he's doing anything else than say, "These guys inspire me. Their thoughts are what I reach for."

The cynicism you sport is part of the evil eating at the body politic.

 

[star-warrior]

I kinda found his speech wooden in delivery, but, the words themselves were refreshing to hear. To hear that America is not the America of 50 years ago is little heard from Black African leaders very much. Although I've not warmed up to him in the past, or think he's any good as a president, I still applaud his decision to meet this thing head on and deliver the speech he did. He should've done it earlier though.

 

[JackFTwist]

So now it his former pastor. When a few weeks ago he was his pastor, and he was still attending the church.

Actually in the past few weeks Wright has gone from being Pastor to being former pastor. He announced the retirement a long time ago, Otis Moss IV is now in place as pastor, and the transition happened the end of February and early March. I expect that Wright will get the title Pastor Emeritus, sometime in the next year.

And Obama still attends Trinity UCC.

So does Oprah.

So does Common.

 

[iman]

The cynicism you sport is part of the evil eating at the body politic.

I am not being cynical, I'm simply being realistic and do not accept something a political candidate says at face value. What I find cynical is the use of race by Obama and his pastor. MLK would never say the things that Wright has said, MLK would never invent instances of racism to posture against - he did not have to.

The Wright invention that the government developed AIDS and allows drugs to flood the streets or the Obama inventions of of instance of racism from Clinton supporters is cynical and trivializes race issues to use them for their own political purposes.

 

[construct]

What ICO said. I'm just a little more willing than a lot of liberals and radicals to hear liberal values expressed in plainly moral terms. I'm also not particularly frightened of the idea of couching those terms in Jesus-talk. So I really didn't see any need for Obama to "denounce" much of what Rev. Wright said. He went farther in his correction of Rev. Wright than I would have. But it's his campaign, not mine. And I can live with his approach.

Still and yet, Rev. Wright was really just a springboard, an occasion, for a speech that went much further in articulating the common aspirations of most Americans. I'd hoped that the reaction wouldn't get all tripped up in reassessing Rev. Wright.

 

[TierraSimms]

The difference between whites and blacks is VERY OBVIOUS on this board.
All I'm going to say is there was some truth to Wright's "sermon", Hillary Clinton doesn't know what it is like to grow up as a black male in America or to be called a nigger.

Carry on. One has to love the some other website on this board over hearing something that has some truth to it.