Obama Takes Credit For Bush’s Deal

[jackoroe]

One of my lawyers used to say "It all depends on if your buying or selling." Obama is clearly selling.

 

[T-Rexx]

I don't get it.

The clip in that video alleged to be Obama telling Ohio "last night" that "I think we should use the hammer of a potential opt out as leverage to insure that we actually get labor and environmental standards that are enforced" was from 2008 - during the presidential campaign.

As you saw in that 2008 clip, Obama said he opposes free trade bills which he does not regard as beneficial to workers. Over the weekend, the UAW and Chamber of Commerce congratulated Obama on changes he made to the Bush-era South Korea free trade agreement. Those changes will help to protect the (Korean) environment and the rights of (Korean) workers. That is exactly what Obama was advocating in the 2008 clip - that trade agreements need to factor in the same constraints with which American manufacturers must deal.

Obama is attempting to implement the policies which he has advocated since his presidential campaign. The UAW agrees that the changes Obama has negotiated will be helpful in promoting the competitiveness of American manufacturers.

What part of this do you regard as dishonest?

 

[rareboy]

I'm puzzled too.

 

[Orlandude]

I don't get it.

The clip in that video alleged to be Obama telling Ohio "last night" that "I think we should use the hammer of a potential opt out as leverage to insure that we actually get labor and environmental standards that are enforced" was from 2008 - during the presidential campaign.

As you saw in that 2008 clip, Obama said he opposes free trade bills which he does not regard as beneficial to workers. Over the weekend, the UAW and Chamber of Commerce congratulated Obama on changes he made to the Bush-era South Korea free trade agreement. Those changes will help to protect the (Korean) environment and the rights of (Korean) workers. That is exactly what Obama was advocating in the 2008 clip - that trade agreements need to factor in the same constraints with which American manufacturers must deal.

Obama is attempting to implement the policies which he has advocated since his presidential campaign. The UAW agrees that the changes Obama has negotiated will be helpful in promoting the competitiveness of American manufacturers.

What part of this do you regard as dishonest?

I don't get it either. How is Obama "taking credit"?

 

[T-Rexx]

^ Okay, I reread everything, and I still don't understand.

Who is saying the Tea Party is not racist?

What does the racism of the Tea Party have to do with trade agreements?

Are you trying to say Jane Hamsher is racist because she disagrees with NAFTA and the South Korea free trade agreement? Why? What connection do you see between the two?

I remain baffled by this thread.

 

[T-Rexx]

You said:

Take it up with Jane Hamsher


but reread the WHOLE OP

"At what point (when) did Obama's detractors stop being labeled 'Racists' so to stifle debate?"

do you think Hamsher is just now revealing her racism?

The only Obama "detractors" of which I am aware who have repeatedly (and dramatically) demonstrated racism are the Tea Party. So, if someone is saying Obama's detractors are no longer racist, I have to assume they mean the Tea Party is no longer racist. Which, of course, is sadly not true.

I don't understand why you would think Hamsher racist, just because she does not agree with NAFTA or the South Korea free trade agreement. I happen to disagree with Obama on a huge number of issues, but I don't think that makes me a racist. I disagreed with GWB on even more issues. But I don't think that means I hate white people.

If your point is that Democrats claim everyone who disagrees with Obama must be a racist, you have no point. Such a claim is beyond absurdity. And you know it.

 

[Kulindahr]

I don't get it.
....

Obama is attempting to implement the policies which he has advocated since his presidential campaign. The UAW agrees that the changes Obama has negotiated will be helpful in promoting the competitiveness of American manufacturers.

What part of this do you regard as dishonest?

I'm puzzled too.

Ditto. Me too.

I don't get it either. How is Obama "taking credit"?

Oh... that may be true NOW

not so true 18 months ago... people with legit policy disagreements with Obama/Dem Leadership were branded racist by several posters here in CE&P

Now... when many libs are pissed at Obama it seems fashionable to disagree with him

So I have a valid Point

I'm adding myself to the collection of the befuddled. Your point was supposed to be Obama taking credit for something Bush had done. That doesn't seem to be the case. So... you're claiming a valid point that isn't the point of the thread?

 

[T-Rexx]

 

[MoltenRock III]

Not my point, never was... (i have bigger bones to pick wiff him)

That point was Jane Hamsher's

Oh bullshit! You got caught lying your ass off and now trying to back-pedal like a child molester in headlights on "To Catch A Predator" tv show.

 

[MoltenRock III]

Funny, seems pretty bipartisan to me. It's a great thing for both S. Korea and the USA.

Fair Use Quote Below:

PRESIDENT Obama's enthusiasm for a "landmark trade deal" between the United States and South Korea is not hyperbole from a White House desperate for good economic news. The cheering on Capitol Hill is loud and bipartisan.

Negotiators spent three years trying to wrap up a U.S.-Korea Free Trade Agreement that foundered on automobiles and beef exports. High agricultural tariffs kept out U.S. products and denied Korean consumers access to competitive prices.

Tariff reductions alone are expected to increase exports of American goods to the world's 12th-largest economy by $11 billion. The agreement, with gains in manufacturing, and new opportunities for service industries — energy and environmental, financial, delivery and electronic commerce — is forecast to create 70,000 jobs.

Read the full article here: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorials/2013611961_edit07trade.html

 

[White Eagle]

I'm adding myself to the collection of the befuddled. Your point was supposed to be Obama taking credit for something Bush had done. That doesn't seem to be the case. So... you're claiming a valid point that isn't the point of the thread?

Well! This settles it. I'm in love with you!
And, no, you can't get out of it!
But then, I have had a few Canadian Mists!

 

[MoltenRock III]

Well! This settles it. I'm in love with you!
And, no, you can't get out of it!
But then, I have had a few Canadian Mists!

Are those like Sierra Mists in America?

 

[Kulindahr]

Well! This settles it. I'm in love with you!
And, no, you can't get out of it!
But then, I have had a few Canadian Mists!

Prove it -- mail me one of your tail feathers.