Obama's fainting fans: dispicable

[Zingerific]

because people mysoginistically insist on treating them as a pair

Misogynist or nor, in all fairness, this was started by the Clintons themselves, in 1992, with their "two for the price of one" line.

 

[seamusnewwest]

If these people who believe that it is an Obamanation to support Barack Obama because of his soaring,hopeful,optimistic rhetoric being so shallow and platitudinal and merely fool's words ....what would they have thought of the optimism and hope brought by another young,untested politician,a young senator from Massachusetts named John F. Kennedy?Especially with his melding of principle and patriotism,sacrifice and service?Dreams may never be fully realized,but to dare not to dream,not to challenge,not to work for a better even if imperfect nation...that in itself is depressing.One must always realize the limits of the possible,but dare not be limited by it.Solving problems is nice,but helping to transform attitudes and conventional thinking of what can and cannot be,the nation can more truly moved to live up to its magnificent vision and potential.

Even Bill Clinton used the analogy of being from a town called Hope,Arkansas to inspire and dream beyond the concept of accepted thinking.When he was an outsider,and not acting as the insider-in-chief.

This is nonsense, and I'll tell you why.

Firstly, comparing any politician to Kennedy, or to Martin Luther King as Oprah did with Obama, is just offensive. I can't believe people tolerate that comparison. They were great people, proven great people, not candidates trying to create an image for themselves through someone else's greatness.

Secondly, John F. Kennedy was not "untested." That is completely incorrect, and a false comparison. John F. Kennedy had real life military experience, as commander of the U.S.S. PT-109. He entered politics national politics in 1947, in the House of Representatives, under the mentorship and with the support of his influential father. And like most politicians of his day, he actually believed in serving his time and working his way up. He became a senator in 1953. He also won a Pulitzer Prize in 1957 - he didn't have to worm around the accomplishments issue when he ran for President. Profiles in Courage was a book about the actual accomplishments of some U.S. senators. Yes, Kennedy was the youngest President, but don't use that to compare to politicians who have little national experience as a justification. By the time Kennedy ran for President in 1961, he had held national office for 14 years and had foreign affairs and diplomatic experience going back 23 years, had played a medal winning role in World War Two, and had political experience in dealing with McCarthyism, the Cold War, economic policy, and had foreign affairs experience (he worked for the American embassy in London under his ambassador father, he had toured much of Europe including Russia, the Balkans and the Middle East for his Harvard senior honours thesis, Appeasement in Munich, and left Germany the day Germany invaded Poland in 1939, and he was in the House of Commons personally to hear the United Kingdom's declaration of war.) An accomplished author before his Pulitzer Prize, Kennedy's thesis was published as a bestselling book, Why England Slept. Kennedy had also travelled throughout South America.

In World War Two, Kennedy did not use his family connections to get out of service (a la Bush), but actually worked his family connections to get in (Kennedy had a bad back, and was initially rejected). He received the Navy and Marine Corps Medal and the Purple Heart.

Kennedy struggled with spinal and other problems, and received the "last rites" of the Catholic church four times in his life. He, like Roosevelt, was one of the few presidents who had a severe disability. In Kennedy's case it was Addison's disease (kept quiet at the time and diagnosed at age 30).

Incidentally, I doubt that Obama supporters would have ever supported Kennedy for the nomination. Kennedy had sought compromises on civil rights and McCarthyism, and would later support the war in Vietnam and various coups d'etats. I don't think that diminishes his greatness or his accomplishments as President, but the liberal wing of the Democratic party opposed him until at least 1960.

So, let's be clear. Kennedy had very strong experience in international affairs, the House of Representatives and the Senate before running for President. He had been in national elected office for 14 years in both houses, and in public service in the international arena for almost a quarter of a century, and he had experience with a military command. Let's also be clear from the Kennedy example - experience does matter for a President of the United States to be a successful President of the United States. Barack Obama truly is no John F. Kennedy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy

 

[TheTalkingAsshole]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhEPNOusKv4