Obama's POTUS Proclamation Honoring Gay Pride Month

[NickCole]

Here's a link to the text of the Proclamation:

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid87603.asp


Kudos to President Obama for recognizing Pride Month. He's not the first, but Bush never did.

Still, there are some problems with it.

First of all, Obama says he’s "proud to be the first President to appoint openly LGBT candidates to Senate-confirmed positions in the first 100 days of an Administration."

Keeping pace with Obama tradition, he is not telling the truth. By April of 1993 President Clinton had nominated two openly gay Assistant Secretaries.



Secondly, this:

Here at home, I continue to support measures to bring the full spectrum of equal rights to LGBT Americans. These measures include enhancing hate crimes laws, supporting civil unions and Federal rights for LGBT couples, outlawing discrimination in the workplace, ensuring adoption rights, and ending the existing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in a way that strengthens our Armed Forces and our national security.

Obama continues to ignore his campaign promise to fully repeal DOMA.

And, in contrast to his unqualified campaign promise, Obama continues to qualify his intent to end DADT, "in a way that strengthens our Armed Forces and our national security."

 

[Inwood]

Wow Nick, [Inappropriate text: Removed by Moderator] I have a feeling that if Obama fulfilled every single campaign promise within his first 100 days you'd still find ways to bash him and complain.

I too have problems with how he's acted since the inauguration but am willing to give it time before I hold his feet to the fire as you have been. That's not to say he shouldn't be reminded of his campaign promises but you seem to have a hard on for taking pot shots and complaining he's done this, and hasn't done that, etc.

I'm not one of the folks who thought on January 20, 2009 that all of a sudden the clouds would disappear, the sun would shine, little woodland creatures would come out and dance and sing and everyone would embrace and get along. But I'm also patient and realize that promises on the campaign trail are often not easily executed once in office.

 

[NickCole]

Obama's nominees appear to have been CONFIRMED already, whereas Clinton's were nominated, not yet confirmed. Or is there an error afoot?

In trying to twist Obama's sentence into truth, you are disregarding the meaning of the sentence as written.

Obama, whose precision with words is so important to him he reads practically everything off a teleprompter or speaks slowly and haltingly to make sure he gets every word right, proclaimed that he's "proud to be the first President to appoint openly LGBT candidates to Senate-confirmed positions in the first 100 days of an Administration."

What that sentence says is that Obama is the first President to appoint gay candidates to Senate-confirmed positons, not that he's the first President to have gay candidates confirmed by the Senate in his first hundred days.

But your response is right in line with the way Obama supporters twist themselves into pretzels to protect and defend his slick way of trying to get away with taking credit for achievements that are not his.

 

[iman]

Apparently we have a few folks on JUB that could get a Presidential blow job in the Rose Garden and still be soooooo dispirited over Obama's election.

It is reassuring to me that the critics have to be so niggling, so trite, so paltry and trifling when they quibble over anything and everything Obama.

 

[hotatlboi]

Apparently we have a few folks on JUB that could get a Presidential blow job in the Rose Garden and still be soooooo dispirited over Obama's election.

It is reassuring to me that the critics have to be so niggling, so trite, so paltry and trifling when they quibble over anything and everything Obama.

Well we might be making some progress. I never thought Nick would say something like "Kudos to president Obama", lol.

 

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[NickCole]

Apparently we have a few folks on JUB that could get a Presidential blow job in the Rose Garden and still be soooooo dispirited over Obama's election.

He's not my boyfriend, I don't want a blow job from him, though I recognize that's not too far off the mark from what many gays are getting from him.

He's my President, I want the truth and equal rights.

And just like Bush or any other President, if Obama lies or doesn't follow through with his promises, or puts forth policy I disapprove of, I'm going to call him on it.

 

[NickCole]

If his claim is untrue, I'm sure Fox News will sniff around and let us all know.

And no doubt if Fox News pointed it out, it wouldn't be legitimate in your opinion.

You focus so much on your preconceived notions of who and what you've decided to hate and diminish, you don't see the truth. Bush Republicans had the same problem.

So how about The Advocate for a source?

Pride Proclamation Makes False Claim

The Presidential Proclamation issued Monday on behalf of Pride month contains an erroneous claim. "I am proud to be the first President to appoint openly LGBT candidates to Senate-confirmed positions in the first 100 days of an Administration," reads the proclamation.

According to Bill Clinton's Presidential Library archives, Roberta Achtenberg was nominated as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity on February 2, 1993.

President Clinton also nominated Bruce Lehman on April 23, 1993, as Assistant Secretary of Commerce and Commissioner of Patents and Trademarks.

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid87738.asp

Oh, and according to that link, even the White House realizes the line needed "clarifying," and provided a new one.

I'm not twisting anything. I'm reading the same words as you and coming up with a very different conclusion.

What you interpreted is not what the sentence said. Words have meaning and their placement in a sentence has meaning.

You? You re just lashing out and making nasty allegations.

I'm just reading it as written, without a Kool Aid haze impairing my vision.

 

[iman]

How is this remotely important? Presidents become liars when they lie about war and important things that affect peoples lives. Lying about blow jobs and minor historical precedents hardly counts.

 

[NickCole]

How is this remotely important?

It shows yet again that Obama lies in efforts to claim an accomplishment he hasn't achieved. If you have any understanding of human nature you'd know why that's important about a man who promises things he never delivers.

In old fashioned lingo, Obama is a con man.

Presidents become liars when they lie about war and important things that affect peoples lives.

It's true that what becomes important is the nature of one's lying, what one lies about and when.

In his proclamation on the "40th anniversary of Stonewall" and at the start of Gay Pride Month, Obama lied to gays about his accomplishments as President in providing opportunity to gays. This same President promised to fully repeal DOMA and he's now removed that pledge from the WH website. He also promised to repeal DADT and not only hasn't started doing that but is now qualifying how that will be done.

Human beings are consistent.

Lying about blow jobs and minor historical precedents hardly counts.

Clinton lied to his wife about blow jobs with other women. When he lied to us about that, although I was angry because I don't like being lied to, it really was just an extension of lying to his wife about having an affair. Not being his wife, and not caring about what he does with his dick, and since he didn't make any promises to me about being faithful to Hillary, it was fairly insignificant to me.

In this instance, though it's not major, Obama lied about the accomplishment of being the first President to nominate openly gay and lesbian Senate-confirmed members to an administration. President Clinton was the first and that was a big deal and deserved applause from gays; Obama lying about doing that deserves to be called for what it is. A lie to the gay community about his willingness to take a risk, be bold and do something that's not been done before on behalf of gays. Obama has never done that; he's only talked about it. And now he's lied about it.

 

[Spiff]

He's not my boyfriend, I don't want a blow job from him,

As much as you love talking about him in every post, you fooled me. It's apparent you always have Obama on your mind. Admit it, you have a huge crush on him. There is no other explanation for your infatuation with him. Yeah, you talk bad about him. But you just like to play rough with your presidential boy toy.

 

[iman]

It shows yet again that Obama lies in efforts to claim an accomplishment he hasn't achieved. If you have any understanding of human nature you'd know why that's important about a man who promises things he never delivers.

In old fashioned lingo, Obama is a con man.

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But, what's the con? What is the Obama end game? Does Obama want to leave office with no accomplishments? Is he a secret conservative? Maybe he just wants to enrich himself? Or, did he just overstate some things during the election, kinda like Bill Clinton promising to sign an executive order allowing gays to serve openly in the military?

Since you are highly critical of most things Obama and call him a con man it begs the question: Why do you think Obama wanted to be President? What do you think his agenda is?

 

[Apollo]

It shows yet again that Obama lies in efforts to claim an accomplishment he hasn't achieved. If you have any understanding of human nature you'd know why that's important about a man who promises things he never delivers.

In old fashioned lingo, Obama is a con man.





It's true that what becomes important is the nature of one's lying, what one lies about and when.

In his proclamation on the "40th anniversary of Stonewall" and at the start of Gay Pride Month, Obama lied to gays about his accomplishments as President in providing opportunity to gays. This same President promised to fully repeal DOMA and he's now removed that pledge from the WH website. He also promised to repeal DADT and not only hasn't started doing that but is now qualifying how that will be done.

Human beings are consistent.





Clinton lied to his wife about blow jobs with other women. When he lied to us about that, although I was angry because I don't like being lied to, it really was just an extension of lying to his wife about having an affair. Not being his wife, and not caring about what he does with his dick, and since he didn't make any promises to me about being faithful to Hillary, it was fairly insignificant to me.

In this instance, though it's not major, Obama lied about the accomplishment of being the first President to nominate openly gay and lesbian Senate-confirmed members to an administration. President Clinton was the first and that was a big deal and deserved applause from gays; Obama lying about doing that deserves to be called for what it is. A lie to the gay community about his willingness to take a risk, be bold and do something that's not been done before on behalf of gays. Obama has never done that; he's only talked about it. And now he's lied about it.

*yawn* anything new up there in your brain? Anything at all?

When will you stop lieing and misleading people?

 

[techboywi]

I just had to point this out.... This is a monumental occasion.. These words have probably never been said before, and will probably never be said again:

Kudos to President Obama for recognizing Pride Month.

I have no comment on the rest of the post, so I chose to remove it from my reply

 

[NickCole]

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But, what's the con? What is the Obama end game? Does Obama want to leave office with no accomplishments? Is he a secret conservative? Maybe he just wants to enrich himself? Or, did he just overstate some things during the election, kinda like Bill Clinton promising to sign an executive order allowing gays to serve openly in the military?

Since you are highly critical of most things Obama and call him a con man it begs the question: Why do you think Obama wanted to be President? What do you think his agenda is?

See, that's fascinating to me. And I'm still trying to figure it out.

It's clear Obama's agenda is Obama. He wants to be in power and head of the cool group, to be liked, popular, respected, adored, to be written about in glowing terms in history books. He's a narcissist. And the trouble with that is not that it's so evil to be a narcissist (though it does create trouble) but that our President's primary objective is not to lead us to a place that's better for all of us. His choices and decisions are made from a motive of self-aggrandizement rather than the public good. He doesn't care about the work, what actually needs to be done to result in positive accomplishment with policy and legislation, he cares about how people think of him, what is said about him and how he's perceived and treated. Watch his expression on the very rare occasions the press questions him in a way that isn't adoring; it's revealing. And the danger is obvious: good policy and legislation doesn't just float out of the air, it's considered and crafted and created -- and Obama is dealing in big and expensive policy and legislation.

I'm still trying to figure it out. But I'll get it.

 

[hotatlboi]

^ lol its a ghost.

 

[hotatlboi]

He doesn't care about the work

Of all the nonsense you've posted, I'm still shocked that you actually believe something like this.

Disagree with his policies, with his solutions, or his personal qualities, but if you really think he doesn't care about actually getting stuff done or whether or not any of it succeeds then I would have to say you are so jaded I don't think you will ever understand anything about him.

 

[Kulindahr]

Nice to have the prez saying good things.

I have to join those who think Obama got it right: a lawyer knows the difference between "nominate" and "appoint"; it isn't an appointment until it's confirmed, so until then it's a nomination.

OTOH it's perfectly valid to ask WTF on DOMA and DADT.

 

[NickCole]

Nice to have the prez saying good things.

I have to join those who think Obama got it right: a lawyer knows the difference between "nominate" and "appoint"; it isn't an appointment until it's confirmed, so until then it's a nomination.

No, "to appoint" means to designate a person to hold an office, not that he/she's been confirmed.

 

[NickCole]

When monkeys in the zoo quit throwing feces? Can you imagine being married or dating someone so obsessed about something? I mean seriously, when every waking moment is spent fixated on being bitter and nasty can you imagine what his friends (if he has any left) think of him anymore?

OMG!!!!


What do his FRIENDS think of him??!!??!!!!!


That speaks volumes about the crowd that supports a popular and unprincipled President.