Oil Disaster vs. 9/11

[tobymerwin]

Obama says the impact of the oil disaster echo that of the September 11 attacks. Personally, I can't believe he would dare to say any such a thing. What about the rest of you?

 

[swerve]

"dare" wouldn't be the right word...

I don't really see the comparison though...

 

[JasunStrikesBack]

unexpected disaster causing mass devastation of the US economy for years.... it's a stretch but I can see the parallel, anyway.

Republicans are all peeing their pants with glee saying it's his "Katrina."

He's doubling down like any brilliant politician would.

 

[opinterph]

Obama says the impact of the oil disaster echo that of the September 11 attacks.

Source Link:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38468.html​

 

[BostonPirate]

Ahhhh

heres the full comment then, taken in context.... from politico link above.....

“In the same way that our view of our vulnerabilities and our foreign policy was shaped profoundly by 9/11,” the president said in an Oval Office interview on Friday, "I think this disaster is going to shape how we think about the environment and energy for many years to come

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38468.html#ixzz0qryymUJM

 

[NickCole]

And then he went golfing for four hours.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...obama-golfs-for-four-hours-in-sweltering-heat

 

[USCboi8]

After 9/11 we get the Patriot acts. After the Oil spill Ill bet they'll push for cap and trade. In the words of Rahm Emanuel "never let a good crisis go to waste"

 

[BostonPirate]

I think their sights are now a bit higher than cap and trade.

 

[grantt]

I think their sights are now a bit higher than cap and trade.

They can aim all they want, but Cap & Tax will fail and so will anything else on the agenda. This season is about over. The Dems will have to "cool it" or "lose it all".

 

[JB3]

I think their sights are now a bit higher than cap and trade.

And they won't get it. One of the biggest incentives for moderates to vote for Cap and Trade (or any energy bill for that matter) was added offshore drilling. With this spill, you can consider the President's energy policy plans DOA.

 

[BostonPirate]

And they won't get it. One of the biggest incentives for moderates to vote for Cap and Trade (or any energy bill for that matter) was added offshore drilling. With this spill, you can consider the President's energy policy plans DOA.

you almost had it, Rose

 

[NickCole]

And they won't get it. One of the biggest incentives for moderates to vote for Cap and Trade (or any energy bill for that matter) was added offshore drilling. With this spill, you can consider the President's energy policy plans DOA.

Didn't have to be that way, though. If Obama had actually stepped up, taken a leadership role from the first week in drawing together a coalition of top people to get the gusher capped and deal pre-emptively with the damage to coastline, animals and livelihoods, and then framed the event as exhibit number one along with all the other valid reasons to invest in alternative energy (not least being our unemployment and economy woes), he could have done it. It's clear from their many other marketing schemes from targeting the Clintons as racists in the 2008 campaign to health care "reform" to their lie of unprecedented filibusters, when ObamaCo wants to it can frame a narrative any way they want and it'll sell to plenty of people, even if it's total bullshit that any objective person can tell stinks to high heaven. I mean, geez, the man who amped up a war in Afghanistan that had become unnecessary gets a Nobel Peace Prize! So imagine if their cause were real, as our need for alternative energy sources is, it could have been an easy sell.

But they're doing it wrong because they don't care. They don't care about the Gulf water or the coastline or the animals or the people's livelihoods down there, and very clearly they don't give a damn about the economy or better energy alternatives. If they cared about any of those things just a small fraction of how much they care about their own deceitful PR and self-aggrandizement, we'd be looking at a totally different landscape right now. Barack Obama is the same man he's been all along, and so are those he chooses to surround himself with. A band of narcissistic bullies who wouldn't know the truth if it bit them on their arrogant asses and don't give a rat's patootie about anybody who isn't part of their snide posse. The truth is in their actions and the results, and from the economy to Wall Street, from energy to education, from DADT to DOMA to ENDA, even with two years of a huge Democratic majority Congress, they are failing miserably.

And now he has the goddam gall to compare an off-shore oil rig disaster that's the fault of failures by the builder and the owner and the US government, to terrorist planes flying into buildings and taking down the twin towers on 9/11. And then he takes off to play golf for four hours.

 

[SuperPsyze]

I'm not really convinced that Obama could really do anything. Honestly, if he stepped up, what could he do that BP isn't doing? He's not a scientist or an engineer. All the real scientists and engineers wanted to throw hair and tires into the pipe.

What could he have done SPECIFICALLY to make this any different?

 

[braex27]

Obama says the impact of the oil disaster echo that of the September 11 attacks. Personally, I can't believe he would dare to say any such a thing. What about the rest of you?

The comparison is unfair and unnecessary, in my view. September 11 was the result of deliberate acts designed to terrorise, destroy and murder.

The BP oil spill was not a deliberate act and though BP could have certainly handled the matter better, it is unfair to make statements which effectively compare them to terrorists.

The blame game assists no one. It detracts from the efforts to curb the damage already done. There is no question that BP will be held accountable for the disaster but at the moment, priority should be focused on stopping the leak before anything else can be done.

 

[NickCole]

I'm not really convinced that Obama could really do anything. Honestly, if he stepped up, what could he do that BP isn't doing? He's not a scientist or an engineer. All the real scientists and engineers wanted to throw hair and tires into the pipe.

What could he have done SPECIFICALLY to make this any different?

Nobody expects Obama to be a scientist or engineer.

You're President of the United States. You pick up the phone and virtually anybody you call does virtually anything you ask when you tell them a disaster is unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico. And you don't, for god's sake, turn down offers of help as Obama did.

His priorities are way off. If there's a fire smoldering in a room of my house I don't continue on with business as usual, turning away assistance and saying so-and-so will take care of that because it's their responsibility. When you're in charge of something, your house, your family, the company, the country, whatever, and a crisis presents itself you put down the everyday things you're doing, put all your resources that aren't being used essentially elsewhere into solving the problem, and readily accept help from those who offer it.

 

[evanrick]

the gulf coast residents now know what the native americans were faced with

 

[braex27]

Nobody expects Obama to be a scientist or engineer.

You're President of the United States. You pick up the phone and virtually anybody you call does virtually anything you ask when you tell them a disaster is unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico. And you don't, for god's sake, turn down offers of help as Obama did.

His priorities are way off. If there's a fire smoldering in a room of my house I don't continue on with business as usual, turning away assistance and saying so-and-so will take care of that because it's their responsibility. When you're in charge of something, your house, your family, the company, the country, whatever, and a crisis presents itself you put down the everyday things you're doing, put all your resources that aren't being used essentially elsewhere into solving the problem, and readily accept help from those who offer it.

He turned down offers of assistance? Really?

 

[BostonPirate]

He turned down offers of assistance? Really?

pffft

He turned down the dutch offer to take over the contract for the cleanup, which would hav had the effect of relieving BP of its responsibilities.

its a shell game that the oil companies are playing right now.

BP made the spill and contractually they need to clean it up. if we jump first and violate the terms of the contract with BP they could conceivably be off the hook for the whole thing.

Of course if you hate the president sooo much that y0u would rather see BP set free of its obligations, then.......

 

[kallipolis]

President Obama has realised that he is powerless to offer the American people a panacea to this catastrophe that would assist him be re-elected for a second term.

Such frustration among politicians reminds us that pie in the sky rhetoric does not fill holes, rather informs us that when your hands are tied, words fill a void filled with frustration.

 

[BostonPirate]

President Obama has realised that he is powerless to offer the American people a panacea to this catastrophe that would assist him be re-elected for a second term.

Such frustration among politicians reminds us that pie in the sky rhetoric does not fill holes, rather informs us that when your hands are tied, words fill a void filled with frustration.

indeed.

people are expecting something that is imposible. They are expecting the president to develope a science that is simply not there.

someone cue the song " she blinded me with science" ....lol