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Ok to all Anti-Obama people... heres an education

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The majority of this country is so downright STUPID that its sickening. The past 8 years our government totally betrayed my trust and it will take ALOT for them to get it back again. I personally feel our current leader is worthy of reestablishing my trust. I sincerely hope all who oppose my views to please read every word with consideration. If early United States citizens were being treated unfairly by an unjust government... they wouldn't believe the bullshit and lies. The people would get off their asses and protest so that changes can be made. Instead... dumb people hate the people that are actually trying to HELP them and believe the lies that come from the republican party. The republican party targets the stupidity of drunk racist hillbillies that believe global warming helps the plants grow even stronger... and older "conservative" citizens who have not a CLUE to what's really being done.

Now I understand some republicans are upset that liberals keep saying.. "Bush did this and Bush did that!" Its not really an issue of whining.. its the fact that... Bush DID do this and DID do that. I know.. relax.. grab another alcoholic beverage.. truth hurts. Clinton led an administration that had actually balanced the nations budget for the FIRST TIME in such an organized way... that once he did everyting to the point of being acceptable.. that people stuck their nose in his personal life and made a big deal about him getting a blow job. Are you kidding me? Half the conservative dicks cheat on their wives and do the same shit and jerk off to porn. GImme a break. You had to impeach him for getting a blowjob? Grow up.

Bush came into office with the support of the south and other republican voters. I remember hearing how people tried to compare him to the true "Average American" because you can sit down with him and HAVE A NICE BEER. Getting drunk makes a terrific president? Then he was pro-life and eco-friendly. Because he worked on a ranch and led the public to believe he helped raise animals. DING DONG umm no your father had an OIL ranch.. there was no milking of any cows or coats you ding bat. Eco-Friendly My ass. Drilling for oil and burning fossil fuels is NOT being Eco-Friendly.

Bush supported the wealthy. Bottom line. He targeted poor hilbillies by going by the theory of Capitalism and Reagonomics which always in the end fail just like Communism. He believed in a false twisted version of the American Dream that any American can make as much as a profit as possible. Now in theory.. this sounds wonderful. But to WHAT extent must that person go to GET that financially successful? Before Bush.. we had laws to protect the economy that regulated how much businesses could compete. If businesses and major corporations could use cut-throat techniques to make the most profit.. it will end in disaster. But no, Bush removed the Anti-Trust Laws set in place to regulate fair competitive rates. Here is the domino Effect.

Reagonomics believes that if you allow the wealthy to collect more money and then lower their taxes.. they will reinvest in the economy and it will all trickle down. If a rich person argues about their taxes being more then 15% while I pay 30%... they are obviously not going to follow the rules of ergonomics by reinvesting into the economy to keep it flowing. They keep it all to themselves. They see money as power.. an addiction. If you want one cent.. get the fuck outta their face. If you want a higher wage.. you are
hurting the idea of reagonomics because the rich should be making a more profit, and its wrong if you ask to be given a chance to make a better living. Its not their fault if you are dying and need medication, they will just replace you because you're gonna die anyway and your medical needs will cost them money even if it saves ur life. Not all rich people are like that, mind you. And it boggles my mind when these confederate loving hicks honor the republican party yet they are broke as a mother fucker.. have a cheap brand of beer in one hand and a gun in the other shouting... "Obamas taking my GUN AWAY!!" It makes you wonder how the party they waste their votes on actually benefits them in ANY WAY.

Republicans argue that business is business... but never look at the consequences to other people. If we allow one bank or company to fail... what happens to those jobs and to the stock invested in the bankrupt cooperations? Its GONE. Wal-Mart is allowed to now send jobs overseas and have the lowest prices... other stores can't compete.. so they go out of business.. and it effects entire CHAINS. More jobs get lost.. more stock loss... A loss in medical insurance while some couldn't afford to pay for it because the Premiums were raised by 29% which led to why in 2009 Obama said we need medical reform. WAKE UP People! People can't pay the mortgage especially when Bush allowed MONOPOLIES to do whatever they want and raise the interest rates to whatever they wished.. and made a 250% profit off of struggling families. More people collect unemployment.. Meanwhile The anti-democrats shrug and say oh well its the corporate world Not our fault. So all the jobs that get lost by walmart for example.. Sure walmart created jobs.. but destroyed how many to get those jobs? Does it make up? If you had good insurance with your old job and was forced to accept a lower paying job like walmart you couldn't get the same positive benefits.. because even though Walmart is stinking rich.. they don't care about you. You're a replaceable car part and if you complain.. they will fire you. How fair is that?

Now because of Bush people couldn't get better jobs.. the money in the nation started to tighten FAST. The stock market crashed because more millionares became BILLIONARES and all the money flowed into the smaller percentage of America's wallets. 80% of the nations revenue was paid by the poor and middle class Americans. The majority of this nation is poor and middle class. We are the engine of the economy. Yet as the nation went bankrupt.. we had to bail out the RICH people because they fucked up with all the risky investments and high rates. We ended up passing the expensive stimulus bill to try and get the nation going again and start over... it costs money to declare bankruptcy and get your life going again.. If the stimulus was not passed.. where would our nation have gone? You can't let a mess just SIT THERE it will get WORSE.

They bitch that blacks, gays, jews, mexicans,or any minority that isn't str8, white, christian or republican are what's destroying the country. You go to church and these hypocrites say peace be with you. A Kid goes up in the parking lot asking a quarter to make a phone call because shes lost from home and she gets turned away because she is "scamming the public like all democrats." They curse at you for being in the way and they own the road because they are a "Conservative Soccer Mom" who has the right to curse you out for jerking off to porn down the street in your own house or they cut you off on a highway because they have a special privilege. The republicans have this ideology that democrats take money from people's pockets and blow it on immigrants and force companies to go bankrupt because people want free medical and don't wanna work because they are lazy. STUPID assholes.


Ok, so after our stock market has crashed... businesses are now basically dead.. the rich just got 10 times richer.. many don't have jobs or health insurance.. dont have a place to live because Bush let their banks go to hell so a select few can make a profit because he thinks Capitalsm by itself actually works when it doesn't! Obama gets one week in office.. and already the hicks scream its his fault. Maybe some can't admit they just don't like he is black. They scream hes a terrorist and that he hasn't done one thing thats American because he didn't serve in a war. The gay community scream Obama isn't doing anything for them yet he has a fucking millions things to do with the mess he inherited. The gay community is filled with queeny bitches who don't do enough when to help themselves anyway as they go to these gay bars that destroy a positive image for us and worship fake dramatic bitches like Britney Spears. They wanna get laid.. look pretty.. talk about How pretty Hilary looks with a pink dress.. seriously.. you're full grown men that happen to like men. Grow up. You're not in high school.. this is the real world. The reason the homophobes have so much power is because you LET THEM. If we fought back the right way.. shit wouldn't get this bad. Be a true American by being informed and actually work together to make positive changes. Because the republicans WANT you to be stupid and tell you simple minded statements to get your vote. They don't give a FUCK about what happens to you.. unless you are planning a business deal with them or make a huge profit.


Ok did you all learn something? If you oppose my view.. bring up EVERY point I made and tell me there is no truth to what I said.
 
This is really well put! it's too bad that the ignorant simply won't read it.
 
Thanks. Half the forum here on JUB doesn't take me seriously.. im just a stupid kid.


I don't think that way. I see you as a bright person, that speaks whats on his mind. Don't let the racist people on this board get to you.
 
While I agree with what you say, opening up in your first paragraph with "The republican party targets the stupidity of drunk racist hillbillies" will likely get you more flames than constructive feedback. But if you were looking to get the Republicans blood boiling, I like your style!

Here's some additional points for future arguments.

Fact: Bill Clinton left office with a surplus in the budget.
Fact: George W Bush led us to war and trillions of debt based upon a lie (WMD).
Fact: Bill Clinton lied about getting a blow job and was ostracized. George W Bush lied to congress about WMD's and was never prosecuted.
Fact: George W Bush cut taxes while increasing government spending and put the country on the brink of a depression and running up the largest deficit ever held by this country.
Fact: Obama restored "Pay As You Go" spending to avoid piling on the deficit.
Fact: For all the rhetoric on the Republicans being stronger on National Security and us being safer, the greatest terrorist attacks upon our nation occurred while a republican was in charge.
Fact: Republican George Bush went from one of the most popular presidents in history (his appearance at the WTC grounds following 9/11) to one of the most distrusted presidents in American History, second only to Richard Nixon...another republican.
Opinion: While we pride ourselves on our democracy, this nation has been ruled, not by elected officials "of the people, by the people, for the people" but by special interest groups (ie Corporate America) looking to protect their bottom lines. Why else would the republicans be so opposed to enacting Healthcare legislation that would help 30 million Americans become insured, prevent insurance companies from denying coverage or dropping coverage when it isn't "profitable" for them and have it be deficit reducing??? Some of their largest contributions come from the Health Insurance industry.
Opinion: The only way to ever regain our trust and respect is to enact lobby reform and give the government back to the people. But that's not likely to ever happen.
 
The majority of this country is so downright STUPID that its sickening. The past 8 years our government totally betrayed my trust and it will take ALOT for them to get it back again. I personally feel our current leader is worthy of reestablishing my trust. I sincerely hope all who oppose my views to please read every word with consideration. If early United States citizens were being treated unfairly by an unjust government... they wouldn't believe the bullshit and lies. The people would get off their asses and protest so that changes can be made. Instead... dumb people hate the people that are actually trying to HELP them and believe the lies that come from the republican party. The republican party targets the stupidity of drunk racist hillbillies that believe global warming helps the plants grow even stronger... and older "conservative" citizens who have not a CLUE to what's really being done.

Now I understand some republicans are upset that liberals keep saying.. "Bush did this and Bush did that!" Its not really an issue of whining.. its the fact that... Bush DID do this and DID do that. I know.. relax.. grab another alcoholic beverage.. truth hurts. Clinton led an administration that had actually balanced the nations budget for the FIRST TIME in such an organized way... that once he did everyting to the point of being acceptable.. that people stuck their nose in his personal life and made a big deal about him getting a blow job. Are you kidding me? Half the conservative dicks cheat on their wives and do the same shit and jerk off to porn. GImme a break. You had to impeach him for getting a blowjob? Grow up.

Bush came into office with the support of the south and other republican voters. I remember hearing how people tried to compare him to the true "Average American" because you can sit down with him and HAVE A NICE BEER. Getting drunk makes a terrific president? Then he was pro-life and eco-friendly. Because he worked on a ranch and led the public to believe he helped raise animals. DING DONG umm no your father had an OIL ranch.. there was no milking of any cows or coats you ding bat. Eco-Friendly My ass. Drilling for oil and burning fossil fuels is NOT being Eco-Friendly.

Bush supported the wealthy. Bottom line. He targeted poor hilbillies by going by the theory of Capitalism and Reagonomics which always in the end fail just like Communism. He believed in a false twisted version of the American Dream that any American can make as much as a profit as possible. Now in theory.. this sounds wonderful. But to WHAT extent must that person go to GET that financially successful? Before Bush.. we had laws to protect the economy that regulated how much businesses could compete. If businesses and major corporations could use cut-throat techniques to make the most profit.. it will end in disaster. But no, Bush removed the Anti-Trust Laws set in place to regulate fair competitive rates. Here is the domino Effect.

Reagonomics believes that if you allow the wealthy to collect more money and then lower their taxes.. they will reinvest in the economy and it will all trickle down. If a rich person argues about their taxes being more then 15% while I pay 30%... they are obviously not going to follow the rules of ergonomics by reinvesting into the economy to keep it flowing. They keep it all to themselves. They see money as power.. an addiction. If you want one cent.. get the fuck outta their face. If you want a higher wage.. you are
hurting the idea of reagonomics because the rich should be making a more profit, and its wrong if you ask to be given a chance to make a better living. Its not their fault if you are dying and need medication, they will just replace you because you're gonna die anyway and your medical needs will cost them money even if it saves ur life. Not all rich people are like that, mind you. And it boggles my mind when these confederate loving hicks honor the republican party yet they are broke as a mother fucker.. have a cheap brand of beer in one hand and a gun in the other shouting... "Obamas taking my GUN AWAY!!" It makes you wonder how the party they waste their votes on actually benefits them in ANY WAY.

Republicans argue that business is business... but never look at the consequences to other people. If we allow one bank or company to fail... what happens to those jobs and to the stock invested in the bankrupt cooperations? Its GONE. Wal-Mart is allowed to now send jobs overseas and have the lowest prices... other stores can't compete.. so they go out of business.. and it effects entire CHAINS. More jobs get lost.. more stock loss... A loss in medical insurance while some couldn't afford to pay for it because the Premiums were raised by 29% which led to why in 2009 Obama said we need medical reform. WAKE UP People! People can't pay the mortgage especially when Bush allowed MONOPOLIES to do whatever they want and raise the interest rates to whatever they wished.. and made a 250% profit off of struggling families. More people collect unemployment.. Meanwhile The anti-democrats shrug and say oh well its the corporate world Not our fault. So all the jobs that get lost by walmart for example.. Sure walmart created jobs.. but destroyed how many to get those jobs? Does it make up? If you had good insurance with your old job and was forced to accept a lower paying job like walmart you couldn't get the same positive benefits.. because even though Walmart is stinking rich.. they don't care about you. You're a replaceable car part and if you complain.. they will fire you. How fair is that?

Now because of Bush people couldn't get better jobs.. the money in the nation started to tighten FAST. The stock market crashed because more millionares became BILLIONARES and all the money flowed into the smaller percentage of America's wallets. 80% of the nations revenue was paid by the poor and middle class Americans. The majority of this nation is poor and middle class. We are the engine of the economy. Yet as the nation went bankrupt.. we had to bail out the RICH people because they fucked up with all the risky investments and high rates. We ended up passing the expensive stimulus bill to try and get the nation going again and start over... it costs money to declare bankruptcy and get your life going again.. If the stimulus was not passed.. where would our nation have gone? You can't let a mess just SIT THERE it will get WORSE.

They bitch that blacks, gays, jews, mexicans,or any minority that isn't str8, white, christian or republican are what's destroying the country. You go to church and these hypocrites say peace be with you. A Kid goes up in the parking lot asking a quarter to make a phone call because shes lost from home and she gets turned away because she is "scamming the public like all democrats." They curse at you for being in the way and they own the road because they are a "Conservative Soccer Mom" who has the right to curse you out for jerking off to porn down the street in your own house or they cut you off on a highway because they have a special privilege. The republicans have this ideology that democrats take money from people's pockets and blow it on immigrants and force companies to go bankrupt because people want free medical and don't wanna work because they are lazy. STUPID assholes.


Ok, so after our stock market has crashed... businesses are now basically dead.. the rich just got 10 times richer.. many don't have jobs or health insurance.. dont have a place to live because Bush let their banks go to hell so a select few can make a profit because he thinks Capitalsm by itself actually works when it doesn't! Obama gets one week in office.. and already the hicks scream its his fault. Maybe some can't admit they just don't like he is black. They scream hes a terrorist and that he hasn't done one thing thats American because he didn't serve in a war. The gay community scream Obama isn't doing anything for them yet he has a fucking millions things to do with the mess he inherited. The gay community is filled with queeny bitches who don't do enough when to help themselves anyway as they go to these gay bars that destroy a positive image for us and worship fake dramatic bitches like Britney Spears. They wanna get laid.. look pretty.. talk about How pretty Hilary looks with a pink dress.. seriously.. you're full grown men that happen to like men. Grow up. You're not in high school.. this is the real world. The reason the homophobes have so much power is because you LET THEM. If we fought back the right way.. shit wouldn't get this bad. Be a true American by being informed and actually work together to make positive changes. Because the republicans WANT you to be stupid and tell you simple minded statements to get your vote. They don't give a FUCK about what happens to you.. unless you are planning a business deal with them or make a huge profit.


Ok did you all learn something? If you oppose my view.. bring up EVERY point I made and tell me there is no truth to what I said.

Yeah I learned something. Apparently the American educational system has failed us worse than I thought. ](*,)
 
..lol, its sad BUT this is a country of rednecks..just look at the electoral maps: the south (awful), the midwest (bad) the midland (not too bad but bad) and the eastern parts (penn, ohio, west virginia, ect awwfulll....its like bush got a pass for all the bad he did to the country...faceit, if you are a so-called "liberal," most americans are going to be against you... they are hardworking ppl and, most of them, good people but they are backwards and have no idea that most politicians are ripping them off and the fox newnews works for corporate and conservative america....which has sold this country out to the point to where normal americans cant find work or enjoy the sam living....

i live in the south, for now, and i am borderline depressed becuase of the way theses people live and think...being gay is almost torture and ppl who I KNOW to be gay, pretend like the rest of this redneck trash, just to have a normal life...people who are FLAMMING gay, pretent to be straight, conservative, christian and traditional, just to be able to communicate with their families...America will have to wake up before its too late..
 
..lol, its sad BUT this is a country of rednecks..just look at the electoral maps: the south (awful), the midwest (bad) the midland (not too bad but bad) and the eastern parts (penn, ohio, west virginia, ect awwfulll....its like bush got a pass for all the bad he did to the country...faceit, if you are a so-called "liberal," most americans are going to be against you... they are hardworking ppl and, most of them, good people but they are backwards and have no idea that most politicians are ripping them off and the fox newnews works for corporate and conservative america....which has sold this country out to the point to where normal americans cant find work or enjoy the sam living....

i live in the south, for now, and i am borderline depressed becuase of the way theses people live and think...being gay is almost torture and ppl who I KNOW to be gay, pretend like the rest of this redneck trash, just to have a normal life...people who are FLAMMING gay, pretent to be straight, conservative, christian and traditional, just to be able to communicate with their families...America will have to wake up before its too late..

The midwest and the east are not bad at all. Like everywhere else, it depends on where you go, however.
 
The midwest and the east are not bad at all. Like everywhere else, it depends on where you go, however.

i disagre but the midwest is mostly bad...you have places like north and south dakota, iowa, nebraska, oklahoma, arkansas (which could be almost southern) and most these states think and vote republican.....now the east-east, i am not including but the "almost" east: PA, OH, ID, KT, WV, etc are REDNECKS...look at all the hell those people gave obama during the demorcratic nomination...all blue collar and uneducated.....and if you're gay and don't live in a major metropolitian city, you're trash and will be treated as such...living in alabama is the worst torture of my liffffffffffe... it is constant hell and these people live by liquor, beer, religon, and tradition...they have no desire to learn a langague, travel, eat healthy, pay attention to politics, be open minded, or obtain higher education....its the US and if they dont wake up...China will put them in the sweatshopssss...hell, we only owe china 8 trillion dollars BUT our rich keeps getting richer...

and don't get me strated on healthcare and the media....OMG, the media has betrayed (and yes. cnn too) the public to the point to where I've have stopped watching politics on tv....the healthcare bill would improve the lives of EVERY american and yet we oppose it!?!?!!!! well, they oppose it but since we are a democracy. i guess that includes me...although, my vote doesnt count (in alabama).........get rrrrrr donnnnnnne. NASCAR baby.....ahhhhhhhhh
 
KrisHawkXXX, I understand your anger for what Bush did to this country and how bad it was but one thing happening that most people do not realize is that our entire governmental system is corrupted beyond measure. Even if Obama really wanted to fix it, he couldn't.

This isn't a blame game here but Obama IS continuing several things Bush had began including the Patriot Act which bears a striking resemblance to something Hitler passed after the burning of the Reichstag building.

If you haven't seen "The Obama Deception" it's worth looking into. It shows how the same people who held Bush up and controlled things by far, are STILL in charge and are controlling Obama now.

I know your intelligent, that's not the question. The question is, are we being lied to overall about what all is happening? I really hope you take time to see that video even though you probably think it's just another one of those anti-Obama things but this documentary is different. Please give it a shot. Don't turn it off 5 minutes through it, just watch it fully and then if you disagree with it, that's fine.
 
The midwest and the east are not bad at all. Like everywhere else, it depends on where you go, however.

Yes, all the states that voted for Obama (at least the Mid-west states bordering on the Great Lakes, and Iowa).
 
Yeah I learned something. Apparently the American educational system has failed us worse than I thought. ](*,)

That's seriously the best you can do? Please do argue my points and redirect our thinking.. since you know so much.
 
KrisHawkXXX, you're a fine example of those who support the president.
 
I'll pick on one point among many that are just misconceptions or ignorance: that the money many people lost went to the wealthy, and that many millionaires became billionaires when the stock market crashed.

Here's a clue about the economic reality: millionaires didn't become billionaires, they lost money right along with anyone else in the stock market when it took a dive. Billionaires lost even more, if their wealth was tied up in the stock market.

Why? Because a dive in the market means that stock prices are dropping. The wealth/money represented by those stock prices doesn't "go" anywhere but away -- it just ceases to exist. If the total value of the stock market was, say, twenty trillion, and it dropped twenty percent in value, that would be four trillion dollars that just vanished.

I know some people who were worth about four million before all the economic problems started. Now they're worth about two and a half million: the value of their house plummeted, the value of their stocks dove. It wasn't because a million and a half dollars went to someone else, it's that a million and a half dollars of value is just gone, vanished, disappeared, no longer exists.

That's just one place you screwed up.
 
I'll pick on one point among many that are just misconceptions or ignorance: that the money many people lost went to the wealthy, and that many millionaires became billionaires when the stock market crashed.

Here's a clue about the economic reality: millionaires didn't become billionaires, they lost money right along with anyone else in the stock market when it took a dive. Billionaires lost even more, if their wealth was tied up in the stock market.

Why? Because a dive in the market means that stock prices are dropping. The wealth/money represented by those stock prices doesn't "go" anywhere but away -- it just ceases to exist. If the total value of the stock market was, say, twenty trillion, and it dropped twenty percent in value, that would be four trillion dollars that just vanished.

I know some people who were worth about four million before all the economic problems started. Now they're worth about two and a half million: the value of their house plummeted, the value of their stocks dove. It wasn't because a million and a half dollars went to someone else, it's that a million and a half dollars of value is just gone, vanished, disappeared, no longer exists.

That's just one place you screwed up.

Your correct here in this matter for the most part. One thing that wasn't completely in this equation was the top of the top bankers and others who gained all the money from this. One thing to know is that being a millionaire is not a safety net. You also have to have the proper connections and affiliations as well otherwise your gonna lose out, no matter how wealthy you are.

Goldman Sachs is one fine example of those who fared well from all of this and didn't lose anything from all of this chaos.


Obama is NOT in control of this government, this is a fact that time will tell eventually.
 
Your correct here in this matter for the most part. One thing that wasn't completely in this equation was the top of the top bankers and others who gained all the money from this. One thing to know is that being a millionaire is not a safety net. You also have to have the proper connections and affiliations as well otherwise your gonna lose out, no matter how wealthy you are.

Goldman Sachs is one fine example of those who fared well from all of this and didn't lose anything from all of this chaos.

Okay, but they didn't gain money that others lost, they gained fiat money.

MOP

Money-on-paper

That's what most of our money is these days. Most of the money the government puts into the economy exists only as electrons; what's printed is merely enough to handle those transactions people do in cash.
 
"Real" money -> Gold/Silver
"Fake" money -> Banknotes
"Even more fake" money -> Stocks
"Even more faker!" money -> Treasury bonds!
"The fakeriest" money -> Federal reserve loans :)
:D


That's not necessarily true.

Whether it's real or fake depends on perception and common agreement.

Since it's not life-sustaining, gold's value is only as real as the value others place on it. If you have a stack of gold and nobody with the goods you want will accept it in trade, it has no value as money. If there's a catastrophic economic event, what is and is not worth something will depend on what those with goods to trade want or will accept. It might be banknotes, it might be gold, it might be vegetable seeds.

The value of money at any given time is determined by what it will buy, not what it's made of.

Some assume gold will always be the most reliable money, the most reliable holder of value, but nobody knows for sure.
 
All I can say now is that a whole lot of the world is getting their gold back from places and locations from around the world in one mad dash to secure some form of money for the coming financial storm. If that tells you anything about how gold stands up during times, you can see that gold is still a standard and probably for a short time here in the future it will be used until we get THIS:

implantable-rfid-chip-240x300.jpg


170px-CHIP_RICE.jpg

http://www.positiveidcorp.com/

Coming to a safer more secure world near you! No more money! No more credit cards! Just one simple chip! Oh by the way...it seems to bear a striking resemblance to Bible Prophecy...

It's not used for this purpose yet...but eventually you bet your ass they will make everyone get this chip...I will not ever get this chip. I was raised Christian, even though I'm gay...I KNOW what this will turn into...and it scares the shit out of me.
 
KrisHawkXXX, you're a fine example of those who support the president.


Who would have thought that one of Barack Obama's biggest missteps as President would be repeating some of the bad habits of George W. Bush?

No single factor was more instrumental in Obama's 2008 victory than his pledge to completely reverse the nation's course once in the White House.

Instead, over the past year, Obama has mimicked some of Bush's most egregious blunders, leading to much of the political predicament in which the present decider finds himself today.

Read more:

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1970413,00.html#ixzz0ikSIIvnI

OK Im gonna tear you a new asshole.

You too JackoRoe.. you have no words of wisdom to back up the shit you talk out of your ass. I've never seen you use a well thought out discussion with details based on your own research from non-biased sources. I don't care if your a moderator.. you're still a poster here and I dont care what position you have.. Im treating you like anyone else.

What's sad and fucking pathetic is you give me a half-assed effort and can't even tell me in your own words why you feel Obama is like Bush. You give me a link to an article with someone else's words. Tell me with your OWN intelligence on why you think Obama is so terrible.

Please give me a full well thought process in detail on how our economy slowly fell apart and what is going on at the moment.. not what you hear from bigots, the payed-off news stations like Fox, or the religious rights radio. Please use your own brain and have some REAL smarts.. unless you don't have any.


What is he doing that repeat's Bush's policies? I dont like the internet or television.. They can say anything they want. I pick up newspapers and study graphs and check financial figures. Go to a library and study the science behind economics. Use what your god damned taxes are being payed towards.


If you have something to oppose against Obama. .tell me in your OWN words why you can't stand him and why he's so much like Bush.

As for the war... Obama realizes that the war could have easily been avoided.. and that the was was a mistake. He can't just pack up and leave in the middle of a fight when people are trying to kill each other... And we NOW do have a responsibility to clean our own mess that Bush started... If you cause famine and destruction.. its heartless and cold to NOT make amends and to not reach out to the people. The people are not all terrorists.. as drunk racist republicans would have you believe.

As for Wall street... its hard to fight corruption within a matter of a year or two. Its not an excuse... because everything has to have a chain reaction so it can have time to take effect. Its not making it any easier for Obama when the Republicans are doing everything to fight him.



These rich people that got richer totally corrupted the nation were moving the finances to off shore banks to avoid paying taxes and still bitched!!! Obama made sure to end this which was a smart move so that these greedy mother fuckers can't get away with that shit anymore.

The Health Care industry is not about keeping the public healthy and doing the right thing to keep the nation strong. Its about raping the public of most of their finances as much as they can and deny a chance to keep living to those that are terminal or who can't walk.

What sickens me is that people are dying when the rich insurance companies have enough money to help others that are struggling! There are people begging for their lives and the conservatives turn them away yet they are God's Good loving Christian Party. FUCK YOU Republicans (American Nazis)

If you ever have a discussion with these crazy conservatives and Anti-Obama nuts.. They scream... "Oh so My opinion doesn't matter?" and assume they must be right because they have "An opinion." Yet their opinions never have any shit to back it up and the talk over you half drunk. When they get cornered in a political discussion.. God somehow become the explanation for all their warped views. They give you a shitty view thats almost word for word to what you heard on the fox network the same day or what you may hear on some religious homophobic radio broadcast. You ask them for an explanation on their views in FULL VIVID DETAIL and they remain silent in your request and just call you stupid. How Mature is THAT?!
 
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