I've bought organic apples twice. Never again. The skin was thick and tough, the apple was mushy and didn't taste good. If I'm paying extra for organic produce I expect it be high quality. I have purchased organic free-range chicken which I will admit did taste much better than regular chicken. But at $12 for three chicken breasts I don't think I'll buy it very often.
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Organic or Conventional produce
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non-organic fruits and vegetables are often pretty full of "water". they are harvested early when (for example) the tomatoes are still green. but the taste develops later .. in a phase that is skipped, because once ready for the shelves the green tomatoes are treated with a gas that makes them "go red"/ripen in a day or so instead of a week. it's similar for other fruits.
andysashy .. you must have had bad organic food .. unfortunately there often is a lot of it - especially in the supermarket (but buy the way .. most vitamins are in the apple skin afaik)
It IS expensive and i don't buy much of it, but for example the apples that I buy on the local farmers market here are the most delicious apples that you can get here. and it's 1.50 EUR for a kilo. i think for that one can support local farmers ...
as for the health benefits - the most important part for me is that they are not treated with any chemicals ..
andysashy .. you must have had bad organic food .. unfortunately there often is a lot of it - especially in the supermarket (but buy the way .. most vitamins are in the apple skin afaik)
It IS expensive and i don't buy much of it, but for example the apples that I buy on the local farmers market here are the most delicious apples that you can get here. and it's 1.50 EUR for a kilo. i think for that one can support local farmers ...
as for the health benefits - the most important part for me is that they are not treated with any chemicals ..
I'm not so much interested in organic as I am in locally grown produce, which also means seasonal things, for the reasons that Corny stated.
Luckily, there has been a resurgence of older varieties of fruits and vegetables in our region. They don't travel very well, but they're picked ripe and taste so much better! I don't even know if it costs more or not. Food isn't something to skimp on.
Luckily, there has been a resurgence of older varieties of fruits and vegetables in our region. They don't travel very well, but they're picked ripe and taste so much better! I don't even know if it costs more or not. Food isn't something to skimp on.
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To my knowledge, what's most important in choosing between organic or conventional produce is whether or not it's been treated with pesticides. At least that's my opinion if healthiness is of concern more than flavor, though I've found that organic produce exceeds conventional in both areas.
With regard to avoiding pesticides, items that you'll eat in their entirety, like cruciferous vegetables, leafy greens, and fruits with soft flesh and/or no skin, are best purchased organic, since the pesticides are more easily absorbed into the flesh of the item as opposed to easily washed off or discarded with the peel.
Then again, all fruits and vegetables should be washed before being eaten. Organic produce is often fertilized with poop of some sort, and things like e.coli are still of concern.
With regard to avoiding pesticides, items that you'll eat in their entirety, like cruciferous vegetables, leafy greens, and fruits with soft flesh and/or no skin, are best purchased organic, since the pesticides are more easily absorbed into the flesh of the item as opposed to easily washed off or discarded with the peel.
Then again, all fruits and vegetables should be washed before being eaten. Organic produce is often fertilized with poop of some sort, and things like e.coli are still of concern.
I agree. I'd far rather buy locally grown produce from farmers' markets and farm shops than I would from a supermarket. I don't give two hoots about organic.
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The main reason I eat organic whenever possible is that I want to avoid eating so much corn syrup, chemicals, radiation, etc.
This site has a list of produce that's okay to eat non-organic: http://hubpages.com/hub/organic
This site has a list of produce that's okay to eat non-organic: http://hubpages.com/hub/organic
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IMO: Nothing is truly organic. We cannot recreate soil - therefore pesticides are still in the soil from the previous farmer. Also.. if an organic farm is located near a "nonorganic" farm the wastewater runoff can effect the organic farm. Lastly and most importantly - the Great Lakes have pesticides that were used in Texas years ago. Therefore, if any one sprays pesticides they then end up on the organic vegetables as well.
I do not eat organic vegetables. I think they are a waste of money. My grandmother however will ONLY buy them - which I find interesting because it has been shown that an adverse effect (cancer?) will show up 20-40 years AFTER exposure. Hill's Causation Criteria is a set of standards used to link two events together. However most people cannot remember the one exposure 40 years ago. So if you are 20 years old you might want to spend the money on organic. But if you have been eating vegetables with pesticides for twenty years - I doubt switching to organic is going to make much of a difference. This of course is all JUST MY OPINION!!
I would much rather buy local than purchase organic!!
I do not eat organic vegetables. I think they are a waste of money. My grandmother however will ONLY buy them - which I find interesting because it has been shown that an adverse effect (cancer?) will show up 20-40 years AFTER exposure. Hill's Causation Criteria is a set of standards used to link two events together. However most people cannot remember the one exposure 40 years ago. So if you are 20 years old you might want to spend the money on organic. But if you have been eating vegetables with pesticides for twenty years - I doubt switching to organic is going to make much of a difference. This of course is all JUST MY OPINION!!
I would much rather buy local than purchase organic!!
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Wow, I'd never considered this angle. I always thought that that was the purpose of having conventional farmland go through a fallow period, and then three organicly planted crops to rotate through it in order to work out the last vestiges of pesticides in the soil, during which the produce from it is considered "transitional". I suppose it's impossible to remove every trace. And I'd never thought to consider the waste water/proximity angle either.
I still think it's worthwhile to encourage more and more farmers to grow organically, and I still think organic products are superior to conventional, depending on the item. But in encouraging organic farming and purchasing, I'll have to keep this information in mind.
I do love a good Farmer's market. We have several good ones here, but what you can get and for how long is sort of limited because our growing season is so short. Minnesota produces lots of organic, local meats, grocery, and dairy products, however. I like to tap into those as often as I can.
Locally Grown and "Organic" are pretty much the same.
I buy organic because you can't truly have a naturally grown peach or tomato, or avocado in January.
Seasonal crops and vegetables are "seasonal" because they're grown within 500 miles of where you live.
Conventional produce, the stuff that you find in your supermarkets, comes from all over the place. Hybridized to be grown and shipped for "shelf-life" rather than for taste, nutrients, or any real "value" for that matter.
It's a wonder of our new markets what can truly be sold during the winter months.
When you factor in the fuel costs, the packaging, and the shipping, there's really nothing "green" about purchasing Conventional Produce.
Buying directly from local farmers, at a farmer's market will always be your best bet!
Most of the individuals that you meet at the Farmer's Market actually planted the seeds, nurtured and grew the produce that you're buying, and if you have any questions or comments about what they're selling you can ask them directly about their planting practices, and the processes that took place for them to bring their produce to you.
The produce that you find on your supermarket shelves during any given season could literally come from anywhere. And it could have actually been harvested days or weeks before it even arrived there.
Organic is more expensive because by law for corporate farms to claim "organic" there is an extensive and expensive certification that they must go through to ensure that what you're buying is truly "organic."
Local Farmers (myself included) would love to be able to sell quantity over quality, but I charge more because I know that my produce tastes better, I know how it was grown, and all of the back breaking, and sometimes heart breaking hardship that I went through to get it to you.
And even then I'm not charging that actual cost of production.
Which means that many of your local farmers are barely breaking even when we don't factor in the cost of labor in producing it.
That's how committed many of us are in growing food that not only tastes good, but is good for you!
Just for fun I want to share this youtube with y'all:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVrIyEu6h_E[/ame]
Search your peelings, and you'll realize that organic is just better!
I buy organic because you can't truly have a naturally grown peach or tomato, or avocado in January.
Seasonal crops and vegetables are "seasonal" because they're grown within 500 miles of where you live.
Conventional produce, the stuff that you find in your supermarkets, comes from all over the place. Hybridized to be grown and shipped for "shelf-life" rather than for taste, nutrients, or any real "value" for that matter.
It's a wonder of our new markets what can truly be sold during the winter months.
When you factor in the fuel costs, the packaging, and the shipping, there's really nothing "green" about purchasing Conventional Produce.
Buying directly from local farmers, at a farmer's market will always be your best bet!
Most of the individuals that you meet at the Farmer's Market actually planted the seeds, nurtured and grew the produce that you're buying, and if you have any questions or comments about what they're selling you can ask them directly about their planting practices, and the processes that took place for them to bring their produce to you.
The produce that you find on your supermarket shelves during any given season could literally come from anywhere. And it could have actually been harvested days or weeks before it even arrived there.
Organic is more expensive because by law for corporate farms to claim "organic" there is an extensive and expensive certification that they must go through to ensure that what you're buying is truly "organic."
Local Farmers (myself included) would love to be able to sell quantity over quality, but I charge more because I know that my produce tastes better, I know how it was grown, and all of the back breaking, and sometimes heart breaking hardship that I went through to get it to you.
And even then I'm not charging that actual cost of production.
Which means that many of your local farmers are barely breaking even when we don't factor in the cost of labor in producing it.
That's how committed many of us are in growing food that not only tastes good, but is good for you!
Just for fun I want to share this youtube with y'all:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVrIyEu6h_E[/ame]
Search your peelings, and you'll realize that organic is just better!
another thing .. the "off-season" food that you can get at the supermarket etc pp - is a HUGE waste of water.
it is such a HUGE waste of water that you can save more water through just buying seasonal/local food instead then you can ever save at home by just using less water.
and at your home you most likely have a good water supply and in many of the countries where the un-seasonal stuff is grown water is quite rare.
it is such a HUGE waste of water that you can save more water through just buying seasonal/local food instead then you can ever save at home by just using less water.
and at your home you most likely have a good water supply and in many of the countries where the un-seasonal stuff is grown water is quite rare.