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Partner won't make out

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I have a "straight" male friend of about 40 years. We experimented when we were about 20 years old and have been together several times a year for the last 25 years. From the start he would not make out which was fine with me at the time. Now however I want that face sucking contact. He has invited me to go camping this coming weekend. I know this means the wife is not keeping him satisfied in the way's I can. How would you get the contact I am looking for?
 
If you have known him and had some form of sexual contact with him for 25 years I do not think he is going to change. Sexuality is a funny thing and all guys are different to the degree with which they like expressing their desires. Just be happy with what you can get from your 'friend with benefits' Best of luck for your weekend :-)
BTW I dont think you can call him your partner if he is married to someone else!
 
For many guys, me included, kissing is VERY intimate... amazingly more so sometimes then sex. I mean, I could probably jerk off just about anyone - but KISSING??? That's gotta be with someone special.

Perhaps his lack of face sucking is his way of keeping it at a 'friend' level, and not too intimate/personal.
 
One of the SMALL reasons I left my only gay BF of 2 years. I had to practically fight him to get a KISS, let alone make out. Same went for "sex" (all we did was jack off). This guy is GAY GAY GAY but had no sex drive.
 
When you're Fucking him "Missionary" start sucking on his nipples, then work your Tongue & Lips on his neck, his Ears then work your way to his lips. Give him gentle kisses...It doesnt have to be "tongue" involved (yet) just gentle kisses that lets him know & feel you're bonding with him through Love-making......

if he's enjoying the Love making he will give-into the kissing because eveything is feeling so good...You know your Bud's likes & dislikes in the bedroom...Don't rush or force "Lip-Locking-tongue action" or "french kissing"...You've got plenty of time to allow the Kissing to grow into something special over time...

Whenever I "bottomed" for my Bi-Buddy the French Kissing was the best part because it would take my mind off of having Dick in my Ass...
 
He probably doesn't want to be intimate because it will confirm he's cheating on his wife and being a total jerk. Tell him to sort out things with his wife before you even think about having sex with him again. What a fucking terrible person.
 
I second the above, honesty is key above personal guilt and pleasure. I've been cheated on in the past and it not a nice experience at all, would have been much nicer to be dumped instead of lied to.

Saying that though, I also second all of the above regarding kissing being very intimate, although I am a complete whore with kissing and can kiss anyone and not feel anything sexual, a good sensual kiss with a lover is the absolute best friggin thing ever. I think I could almost live without sex if I could fill my entire love life with kissing and foreplay, hell kissing almost is foreplay for me half the time if they are decent.

... not a big french kiss fan though, perhaps it is just from people that I have kissed, whom all think its sexy to just shove their tongue down your gullet, no thanks.
 
... not a big french kiss fan though, perhaps it is just from people that I have kissed, whom all think its sexy to just shove their tongue down your gullet, no thanks.

That's the problem...if the guys you've been with think that shoving their Tongues down your throat and sucking out ALL your oxygen is "Kissing" they don't have a clue...

Some guys don't know how to kiss and need to be taught. Some don't wanna learn...An ex-girlfriend of mine thought that "Wet Kisses' was what kissing was all bout..She didnt have a clue...I don't know if she got that from the Dude(s) she was with before me or not...

I can make-out all night and never Fuck...I could NEVER be intimately involved with someone Bi, Gay or Straight that doesnt like kissing or doesnt wanna learn...
 
Dude I think that your issue is bigger then the lack of tongue action - the problem? He is married. Now you two may have something going on but let's face it after 20 something years he is not going to come out or leave his wife or change his sexual habbits.

My advice: either dump him or learn to deal with it. I hope you go for the previous.
 
That's the problem...if the guys you've been with think that shoving their Tongues down your throat and sucking out ALL your oxygen is "Kissing" they don't have a clue...

Some guys don't know how to kiss and need to be taught. Some don't wanna learn...An ex-girlfriend of mine thought that "Wet Kisses' was what kissing was all bout..She didnt have a clue...I don't know if she got that from the Dude(s) she was with before me or not...

I can make-out all night and never Fuck...I could NEVER be intimately involved with someone Bi, Gay or Straight that doesnt like kissing or doesnt wanna learn...

100% agree on all points, though I am a HUUUUGE fan of soft and sensual kissing, that and necks :p . If I am not kissing a partner at least 20 times a day then I will find it lacking, it has to be the one big adoration of mine.

Thankfully with all the practice I've had I can confidently say it is probably the one thing I am apt at, not french kissing though, other areas could use a bit of practice to blow out the cobwebs and rust :(
 
Maybe your friend doesn't like kissing men. I'll suck cock all day and all night and take a cock in my ass anytime I can, but I don't kiss men because I don't like it. I do however love kissing women.
 
Some people just really don't like mouth to mouth contact. Try kissing on the neck or cheek if you really want facial contact. That sounds like a rather good and fair compromise to me, but if he still doesn't want to, respect that. He obviously trusts you a great deal.
 
If you are not getting your needs (desires) met, honest communication is imperative. So many guys don't say what they want: they just "hope" for it, and eventually they develop resentful feeling. Resentment = anger = eventual failure of any relationship: business, social, intimate.
Why are you not asking him why he doesn't kiss you? If he says he doesn't like kissing guys because it's "too gay", well, that tells you something about him and his attitude towards sex with guys right off, at which point you either accept it or say, "Man, I love sex with you, but if we're not kissing, it's not going to work for me anymore. I should've said something sooner, but I really liked being with you and for a while it was enough. But I'm really missin' the kissin' and I gotta have it or we gotta stop." Or however you want to put the last sentence.
If you're not asking out of fear that he'll go, the "relationship" is based on a false premise and sooner or later, you'll want out. And you'll be more hurtin' than you are now (and you ARE hurtin', don't kid yourself. It's just not bad enough for you to leave). So do this for YOU. He's GOT a partner, and you're not the one he's choosin' full time, or he'd be with you.
You can also speak to a therapist about it if it all seems too hard to work out by yourself. And a forum is NOT the place for it: we can only offer suggestions. A therapist will know everything about you, including why you picked a guy who won't kiss you, if that's relevant, which it sounds like it is. Don't marginalize yourself in this way, unless you can really and truly learn to live without the kissing.
 
mcbrion, I like your comment. I found out something interesting through my interactions with my therapist. Evidently, we're wired to be attracted to people like (with the deficiencies) of our parents. Usually, I guess, its the parent of the opposite gender. I'm not sure if this applies to same-sex relationships?

Anyway, we figured out that I was over-analyzing myself and obsessing about rectifying my shortcomings because of my failed relationships. X number of failed relationships, and I'm the only constant factor, I must be the problem, right? At least that's the logic. But it turns out I'm attracted to people I react to like I react to my mother (didn't know my dad). I was--and still am at times--attracted to emotionally unavailable people who make me angry.

What the heck is up with that? I mean, who in his right mind, right?

Crazy stuff. But good to know.
 
I have a "straight" male friend of about 40 years. We experimented when we were about 20 years old and have been together several times a year for the last 25 years. From the start he would not make out which was fine with me at the time. Now however I want that face sucking contact. He has invited me to go camping this coming weekend. I know this means the wife is not keeping him satisfied in the way's I can. How would you get the contact I am looking for?

I'd tell him, you make-out:kiss: with me and I'll suck and you can fuck the shit out of me:D:sex::sex:
 
Make out or fucking get out!! That's what I'd say.

He can take your tongue up his pucker but not in his mouth. What a F&cking pussy!
 
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