On-Topic Pastor nixed from Obama inaugural over anti-gay remarks

[MisterMajestic]

Your calling is to be a politician.

Try Used Car Dealer...

 

[Jack Springer]

Try Used Car Dealer...

 

[rareboy]

MisterMajestic -- when I made the comment "self-righteousness is a heavy burden to carry" it was directed at some of the posters here --- not the President. I should have been more direct in my post.

Some of the posters on CEP appear to want a very strict adherence to their definition of what gays should believe and should act. In some ways they are setting up strict rules that very much look like the extreme conservative religious Christians that they despise and may hate.

I've referred to an Official Gay Manual before and said I didn't have a copy -- no one has sent me one. No one has the right to tell me or anyone how to act and what to believe.

These people whether they are the zealous right, zealous left, or the zealous gay want to impose their values and beliefs on others.

In regards to Obama -- honestly I have no idea what he believes -- I can only see his outward self and he has contradicted himself many times on what his personal belief system holds regarding gay rights and gun rights to name two. Most politicians, no matter who they are, I believe will lie or stretch their belief system to get elected.

I hope that answered your question.

But you have never offered a bit of proof that Obama was anti-gay.

 

[Jack Springer]

^^^

You're missing the point.

 

[Rolyo85]

That's because there's rarely a point to your posts.

You have never offered any proof that Obama was anti-gay. Just as you have never offered any proof that anyone here wants to force the others to think anything. Of course, if you call self-preservation "forcing people what to think", I am not sure I can help you.

 

[Jack Springer]

^^^

... and yet no comment about what I said regarding the self-righteousness of some.

 

[Rolyo85]

Um, reading comprehension fail. My entire second paragraph is about that. Or is this your way of avoiding giving proof for things you know you can't prove?

 

[Kulindahr]

^^^

... and yet no comment about what I said regarding the self-righteousness of some.

Why should he comment when you won't pony up with some evidence for your assertions?

 

[chrisrobin]

In regards to Obama -- honestly I have no idea what he believes.

I have no idea what Bush 43 believes.
I have no idea what Clinton believes.
I have no idea what Bush 41 believes.
I have no idea what Carter believes.

Before 2009, this was a non-issue.

I can only see his outward self and he has contradicted himself many times on what his personal belief system holds regarding gay rights and gun rights to name two. Most politicians, no matter who they are, I believe will lie or stretch their belief system to get elected.

Sounds like Romney to me. I heard him contradict himself in the same sentence more than once.

Pssst. Obama won the 2012 election; pass it on.

 

[Kulindahr]

No I'm not buying it. This is a big event and something like this is bound to happen. The PRseident doesn't approve every single thing that goes on at an inauguration. And he's not being insensitive. The guy was fired. End of story.

Um, the guy withdrew -- and he hasn't said why.

Now we can all speculate.

 

[xbuzzerx]

^^^

You're missing the point.

I think the point is that if you make a claim about Obama, substantiate it or expect people to completely ignore it and treat it as a falsehood.