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"Life, however we cut it, is a matter of commitment"



Well, Bois and Guyz, the damnedest thing happened to me on the way to my blog last week, I got the very first comment from anyone at JUB about something they saw in my blog. Now it’s not like no one is looking at it. It gets 50-60 hits a day at the current rate of traffic flow.

Perhaps they’re looking for my galleries. I hear the word is getting out that it’s got a lot of hot gorgeous guyz of all types in it, a real eclectic select collection.

Who knows what’s going on? I can’t figure it out. Perhaps the blog articles are too serious, or too long, or too offensive, or too scary, or too inane, or too deep? It beats me! No one has been talking back to me, or leaving feedback or reflections.

So here comes this guy out of no where, and leaves a comment, and an interesting one, at that! The comment is on the previous blog entry, #20, "Being Honest about Being Gay". It’s a pretty serious and critical comment.
It reads:
"Thanks for a very thoughtful discourse. You really could have emphasized the importance of being honest about heterosexuality as well. I was glad you cited Kinsey.

Our culture really doesn’t allow one to be very "up front" in acknowledging the strange twists of fantasy thoughts and to explore the real life implications of our deepest fantasies. I relate too much of what you write in my own experience. Yes, it (another path in life) might have been as full as the path chosen; but I was fortunate in not being rushed to define myself with any finality.

Life, however we cut it, is a matter of commitment. I wish I could find less fever to declare oneself as gay, bi, straight, or whatever, and more testimony to the joys to be had in commitment to a person. A life of sexual promiscuity, a life without commitment, is, in my observation an invitation to trouble.

I withhold judgement on what many JUBs reveal of themselves, and I do not think that "what has worked for me" is necessarily going to work for anyone else. And, I hope your offering will be studied by many who are honestly confused."

We, the guy from out of no where and I, had a little PM exchange over this. I wrote to him:

"Many thanks for:
1. The very first comment ever that I received from the Jub "general public"(I was starting to wonder what I was
doing wrong); and
2. For the deep sensitivity of your thoughts.
3. Your response has inspired me to write about commitment. So I shall be pondering this, thanks to you."

Now, what triggered this was a comment I had made to a gay Christian guy who was planning to "get cured" and become Hetero:

"Honestly, it would be better to serve God either through celibacy if you could do that fruitfully, or as a single Gay man living in dignity and joy, or through a loving life-giving committed lifelong Gay Partnership (Marriage) and a possible Adoptive Gay Parenthood that enabled you to honor and live out your own self truth as a Gay person created in the image and likeness of Divine Love.

It is the life of God-like, God-filled Selfless Love we live in our daily life in this world that begins and determines our Eternity. If you create for yourself and dwell in a living hell and drag others into it as your unwitting victims, you will have completely missed the whole meaning and purpose of your life and of your relationship with God. Look before you leap!!!

I will pray for you and your searching of your heart. I hope others will do the same. May God Keep and Help ALL of Us!"

So there you have the context for these thoughts on committed relationships, life partnerships, civil unions or Gay Marriages, whatever you want to call them or view them as. Just remember:
"Wouldn’t a Rose, called by any other name, smell just as sweet?"

You bet it would!

Curiously, for the past several months, I’ve been dialoguing with a few friends about Gay relationships in different ways. So, what I’d like to do is share excerpts from those dialogues to build a case for considering committed relationships as a goal for Gay relational life.
I
"This new gallery you made
has such a different feel from your other galleries. It's got me pondering about what's different.

I think this one is highly focused on eyes. It's very dramatic and in some instances is deeply moving.

Ancient wisdom has it that the eyes are the windows of the soul. There is a profound truth! If that is so, perhaps this exploration of male beauty is a search for the transcendent, for the divine.

As I pondered my own drivenness in this search, I keep on wondering if that isn't what it's been all about...a search for the transcendent, for the divine.

That would be consistent with the rest of my life. It has been involved very directly in mystical spirituality.

Now, to be a Gay man in search of "the one" may mean we are trying to become the men we are meant to be or can be. We try to do this by completing ourselves through a union with another man who has the complementary qualities and attributes that we need to develop, via positive transference, to eventually grow into a whole person.

Human history tells us that when two such persons collide in their mutual complementarity, you end up with a couple. Yet their coupling in not just physical, but embraces every aspect of their beings, so that the two become one on many different planes.

That's the original meaning of EROS as a type of love. That's what makes sexuality so much larger and more complex than being just sensuous physical gentility.


So, my friend, we are kindred spirits, exploring the same inner territory. I hope this rings true to you. If it does in some way, it means I have finally found someone who is on the same Gay wavelength that I am. You are not just another superficial Gay guy whacked out of his mind with testosterone poisoning. It's a lonely Gay life when you are serious..."

I received this reply:

"Wow, what a message, it contains such deep meaning and thought."

"As I am still searching for 'the one', sometimes I wonder if it is because I want to be 'the one' myself".

Well, it is true you are searching for your personal "the one", your Mr. Right. He exists and is out there, and you will find him in God's good time when you are ready and alert, awake and fully receptive to recognizing his true inner beauty.

All these guys we revel in looking at and studying, are physicalized icons of that inner male beauty that we really need, to complete ourselves as men. This is why it is a little dangerous to dwell excessively on outer superficial appearances as the be all and end all of masculine desirability.

Now as to the proposition that you want to be "the one", the good news is you are "the one", and are intended to be "the one" for "the one/Mr. Right", who is intended for you. You will compliment him in the ways he needs with your qualities and attributes, and he will compliment you with his attributes and qualities in the ways you need. Over time you will grow through love together into a whole (the two became one heart and soul and mind), and the reality of your union, your living communion as a couple will be much greater than just the sum of the two individuals involved, just as the coupled life will be much greater than just the lives of the two individuals involved.

"I really like the idea of your reply and maybe I will expand the meaning of attraction as a topic in my blog in the future"...

You know, because you are young, brilliant, creative, sexual, sexy, masculine, intellectually and spiritually attractive and aesthetic (all the things I love about you and love you for!), you and your Blog could probably help a lot of searching men in seeking a deeper meaning and understanding and direction in their Gay life. Quite frankly, that's one of the biggest problems Gay men face today, and there are scant resources to help them. (I still don't know whether or not I have really seen your picture anywhere, however as I have previously written you, your physical appearance at this point in our relationship is irrelevant, because I've seen your inner beauty, "The One" you are! And he is awesome!!! It is clear to me, you are quite a treasure, and anyone whom you are meant to be with, will be extremely fortunate and blessed to be with you and to have you and to hold you. It was beautiful how you wrote of your situation and your willingness to wait to do it right. Good for you. You won't regret it. Love and caring are what make sex human and something different than what animals do instinctively. That’s what I would hope and pray for that would happen to you: lots of love, caring, tenderness, warmth, intimacy, commitment and sweetness. It will bring you happiness and fulfillment greater than the challenges and vulnerability that come with such relationships. May God bring you soon to "The One" for you, so that you may be "The One" for him. I’m sure, with your serious focus, you will find "the one", and will be "the one" to him, too! That is what I’ve always wished for my children and Godchildren, and I wish it for you, too!"

II

In another part of the dialogue I wrote to my friend:


"It’s finally dawned on me why I strive to know you and know about you. As Carl Jung would say, you are an archetypal symbol of transformation for me."

This is paramount to saying that I positively transfer certain qualities from my friend to myself that I need to develop. In that sense, his person nourishes me, instructs me, and mentors me. On a much larger scale, two guys who are in love with each other are transferring positively to each other, helping each other grow in ways that they would never really be able to do without each other. This helps their mutual attraction and serves as a mysterious source of mutual interest in each other. Of course, the kinds of major things they need to transfer to each other will probably take most of a lifetime together to accomplish. To do that they will need to sustain a stable commited relationship with each other.

III
In another part of the dialogue with my friend, Personhood becomes a Hot Topic, and it is related intimately to being a Symbol of Transformation on the one hand and a source of positive transference on the other:


"You,my friend, through your website, have created a profound natural curiosity about yourself, and an interest and a desire to "know" you. Now, this desire is predicated, not on your hotness alone, which you evidently have in abundance, but something much greater and more important, on your "real-ness", your Personhood and your personal integrity and authenticity. So don't be naively surprised that guys enthusiastically respond to you more than the hot fantasy fashion models on your site. You are really REAL for them! And that is extraordinary in an artificial, plastic world.

Meanwhile, I was quite whipped up with the "Who Am I" song you posted and it's exploration of relational failure. Sadly, people hook up with and become intimately involved in emotionally damaging ways,with persons they were not meant to be with, to have these relationships inevitably not work out and end bitterly.

The lesson in this is: When you meet and find "the one", and he finds you as "the one" for him, one of the overall signs to both of you will be the desire and ability to put the other first and "forget" self, going beyond self, for the love and good of the other. In this is the joy and the felicity of "True Love". A Love that is self-transcendent and thus totally unitive, beyond barriers and limits, a love partaking of the infinite and participating in the divine. The only love that is worth anything, because it is faithful and true and totally dedicated to the other. A love that causes a reality to exist that is even larger than the couple who are lovers.


Meanwhile the lesson from your analysis of the songs lyrics tells a sad relational truth:

"Lyrically though it's weepily intriguing. An intelligent examination of a relationship's end laced with regret, in it the guy tells his ex-boyfriend that number one comes first. "Why couldn't I ever put you first?" He Laments"

Selfishness is the death of Love!

IV


In the most recent turn of events in our dialogue, I sensed a natural change in my friend, and a deeper need to become more active in pursuing his relational life:

"You have me wondering if your feeling inner pressure to begin your active interpersonal sex life now. Not knowing your living situation, or how much live human support you have in your daily life, my heart goes out to you and my prayers are that you find the happiness you desire.

This is easier said than done, especially for a person of your sensitivity and your lofty ideals. I'm actually amazed that sheer animal passion hadn't swept you away a long time ago. I sense you are a passionate person and live with the dynamic tensions that passion brings with it. When I was in this situation, and at my bursting point when I was thirty-five, I thought it was going to drive me mad.

I don't know if you are saving yourself for "the one" exclusively as the only one, or could see your way clear to being with a "good one" for your first time. While there is great merit in the former if it is reasonably possible, there is also some considerable merit in the latter if you are careful and understand what you are about. While it would be wonderful to make love with your true love as the only love, it could be good to make love with someone who is a good and worthy friend, rather than torment yourself beyond your limit.

You, as a mature person, must figure out what is best for yourself. Not just what you can live with, but what is truly good for you, given who you are and what you are, with all your various needs, especially your spiritual, emotional, psychological, intellectual, social, affective, erotic, tactile, and genital needs.

Unfortunately, sexuality is not the simple primitive instinctual thing a lot of people try to make it out to be. It's a lot more complex than that, even in it's naturalness. And you need to respect its complexity, and how it plays out within the complexity of your own person and personality.

So if this time in your wonderful young life is not easy, there are good reasons why that is and has to be. Because you have had the courage and nobility to respect you own inner processes and your sense of yourself and your sense of your human dignity and destiny, they have lead you on the path you've been on. You are now at another critical juncture in your personal development and the "unfolding" or the budding and blossoming of your "affective self", with more difficult choices to make about how to handle and guide and shape this important phase of your life.

The best advice anyone can give you is this: "Listen deeply to your heart and respect what it tells you about yourself and your needs." If a possible way or solution does not ring true to you, let it be, and keep yourself open to discovering one that does ring true to you and to your best self, and the interests of your best self. For only then will you be able to insure that you will have abiding peace of mind and heart about what you decided to choose and do at this decisive point in your life.

In any event, all anyone can do is try to do his best, whatever that is, and hope that he attains as much of that as is possible for himself in the circumstances and situations, inner and outer, that he has to deal with. Since this is not a perfect world and we are not perfect people, trying sincerely to do our best, even though it may not be perfect, is more than sufficient because it is all we can really do.

"It's true that I still haven’t had any sexual relationship with anyone and sometimes I have the urge just to find someone to experience it but at the same time, I am scared that it wont turn out right."

Well, you just can’t live in fear or be paralyzed by that fear. But here are some thoughts to help you:

1. If you were with someone who really loved you and understood you, either "the one" or a very "good one" such as a dear and close friend who loves you and cares about you and who is committed to helping you make a beginning, they just wouldn't care about how well or not well it would go or how you performed, because love is blind and the most important thing would be being with you. They would be cutting you lots of slack in your first time. Your ability to perform would be a moot point. The miracle would be that you are performing at all, regardless of how well or how imperfect!

"Love is kind, Love is Patient, Love is non-judgmental, Love hopes and wishes for the Best…"

2. Love is not about performance, love is about self-gift. That's why, as long as you really love, there is real happiness for the other, regardless of the sex.


3. Lovers care about loving, the rest works itself out in time. And…it has to be worked on, like your golf or tennis game. No one is an automatic pro.

4. It actually takes quite a bit of time for a couple to get really good at sex together, just as it does for them to get good at dancing the tango or waltz or any other great dance steps. Practice makes perfect, eventually! So, going into it, Know that it is a work of time...don't expect a lot from your maiden voyage in terms of expert performance...but do know, it can all be compensated for by a giant love with lots of human warmth, good humor (it's a lot of fun if you let it be) and a tremendous respect and desire to please. (Lots of gay and straight couples will tell the funniest stories of falling out of bed while trying to couple, the bed collapsing, becoming buried in bedding and mattresses, etc.) Your partner will sense and see these attitudes and qualities in you, and they will mean more to him than all the best technique and performance in the whole world because they, as the actual Love, are life-giving!!!


5. Believe in yourself as a loving person capable of giving self-sacrificially and of giving yourself as a great selfless self-gift.

6. Believe that you can put your pleasure aside to try to pleasure another, making that the most important thing to you. That attitude and spirit of self-gift to him will mean the most of anything you do or say. It is Love!


7. Believe that you are and can be sweet and tender with another, making him feel special and loved with great human warmth and intimate sensitivity.

8. Orgasm, as wonderful and as important as it is, is not the end real Lovers seek. Nor is it really a true end in itself. It is but a steppingstone into the mystery of human bonding. It also is the springboard for the plunge into a spiritual union with the Beloved, that is deep, intimate, incredibly, mystically silent, and that both intimates and initiates a deep transcendent communion with the divine with and in the communion with the beloved.

9. True relational sexuality is beyond mere relief, as good as that may seem. It is beyond the sensual joy of sexual satisfaction, as amazing as that may be. It gives Lovers a sense of being a mutual communion to each other, that makes them come alive and feel they have been given Life anew, powerfully, and with a meaning and focus that makes living with each other and living for each other what makes Life worth living! This is the Joy of Truly Loving and of Being Truly Loved.

10. To be able to Love another in this way is a source of happiness, just as receiving the Love of another who Loves you in this way is a source of true happiness. As both give this kind of Love to each other, they become the Love they are giving and receiving, and they become this Love united together by this Love. This happens in a way that makes and shows that this Love is something much greater than either of them as individuals, and much greater than both of them as a couple. It allows the divine infinite love of God to be experienced as the ultimate power and content of the relationship and the two Lovers.

11. This kind of Love Bond keeps two Lovers devoted to each other, desiring each other’s wellbeing and companionship in a committed love relationship for a whole lifetime and an eternity.

12. They who attain this Love are
truly blessed, both in time and for all eternity.

13. They are also very Happy!!! Happy to be with each other. Happy to Love each other. Happy to live together. Happy to share their lives with each other in one Life together. Think of all the couples, Gay, BI, and Straight, that you know who have found this Love and live like this. It is possible if you want it and are willing to work at it. Obviously it takes time and quality communication and real commitment to hang in there and make it work. Also, as love matures and mellows and deepens, it changes for the better, but it may not seem as externally passionate as in the beginning. That is because its deepening and growth are more of an interior reality of the heart, and the resting in silence in each others sweet embrace and love after sex may be the new "passion" that is more important than anything else, for the aforementioned reasons.

14. Ponder these things, and what ever rings true to you, savor and store in your heart as nourishment for your relational journey right into the heart of God, in and with and through the Love you have with your Beloved.

"On top of that, I am a shy guy which makes life with gay people more difficult."

So, yes, you are shy...but you are also adorable and wonderful and charming and noble and intelligent and witty and creative and deep...and....very attractive emotionally, psychologically, socially, spiritually and intellectually. You project inner substance and inner beauty with affableness and lovableness. And that's before anyone gets to see you.

If you were an outside observer looking at this guy I just described to you, what would you say? Think really hard about that!

He may be shy, but he's got the juice! And the juice is his ticket to getting beyond his shyness.

You have to know that people are attracted to you, and find you very attractive. Look at all the fan mail guys send you. They are responding to someone who is very real to them, whose qualities merit positive responses. You reveal yourself as a wonderful, sweet, hip, hot guy, who is a lot of fun to be with, too.

So what do you do with that?

I think you need to take it as an opportunity to grow and develop, and transcend your shyness.

Sit and chat over a beer or glass of wine or a cup of coffee, or dinner. Talk, relate, listen, and share. Get to know guys in this way, and reveal small bits of yourself to the extent that you can as you build a relationship with another guy. It may take time, but that's what you have plenty of at the pace you are now going."

V

Finally, we hear from another friend in another part of the country. I’ve been having a different kind of dialogue with him. He’s finally found his first college boyfriend. So I’ve written various things about true love to him, encouraging him to make the best of this relationship. In his most recent response he asks me very directly:

"Do you really think its true love?"

I responded to him:

"It has the potential to grow into "True Love" depending on what you guys make it become!

Even if it isn't the ultimate love of your lives, it's important that this relationship, and any others you may have, be conducted in a loving, caring, unselfish manner.

You really don't want to live as a cynical user and abuser of others. That would be so out of character for you who are such a caring person.

Persons are more than just a quick fuck you throw away once you've finished with them and want to move on to the next one you're going to use and throw away. That's not a healthy or "good" way to live.

So, it's important to constantly be growing in love and having loving relationships that are positive experiences for both "lovers".

I do believe that stable long-term or permanent committed relationships are the best, both in the long run and the short run.

So, I hope that the relationships young people have initially, are helping them learn that and build towards that, so that they eventually can find the "right one" for them to settle down with, sooner rather than later.

Unfortunately, multiple promiscuous or failed relationships can undermine a person's capacity to have an "ultimate" or permanently committed relationship. They can also eventually lead to pretty severe depression, self doubt about ones relational ability, ones lovableness, ones genuine desirableness, and ones sense of selfworth.

So that's why this is tricky stuff to be playing around with. It's like matches, if you carelessly play with them enough, sooner or later you're going to get burnt.

I pray this never happens to you, but rather, you find the true love of your life and all the special happiness that comes with that kind of committed relationship. It probably won't happen overnight, but that doesn't mean it will take forever, either.

Let's hope, and especially pray for the best!"

So dear Bois and Guyz, there are some thoughts and reflections on the nature of relationships, relational Love, Archetypal Symbols of Transformation, Positive Transference, Personhood, and committed relationships. A lot more could be said about each of these items, but suffice this to be a short introduction or reminder of their importance in finding happiness in a Gay relationship. And of course, special thanks go to my mystery man out of nowhere, who got me going on this by his comments to me:

"Life, however we cut it, is a matter of commitment"


I pray that all of us will find “The joys to be had in commitment to a person”.

(*8*) :shamrockBendicat vos Deus!:shamrock:kiss:

:wave: & :wave:


(!)
(!) :shamrock pride: ADIOS!!!pride: :shamrock (!) (!)

 
The goal of a Gay Relationship is becoming a whole person and being the best person you can be through what you do with your sexuality in your love life.


Buddy, A Gay friend, wrote to me last January and asked me these questions. I’d like to share my answers with you so you’ll understand the rest of my writings a little better. I hope this doesn’t scandalize or shock you.

"You were a married man - and use to have sex with your wife….So ….
…what is it, that now attracts you to having sex with another man?"

Well Buddy, the truth of the matter is I never have been straight, all I have been is forced by fear, repression, society, religion, culture and self hate to pretend to be straight and live a colossal lie. All that is over, now! I’m going to be the Gay man I’ve always needed to be but couldn’t be.

When I went to see "Brokeback Mountain" at the movies a few weeks ago, I got quite a jolt that has reinforced what has been going on for the last six months in my life.

I'm reeling from the Pandora's box worth of issues Brokeback Mountain opened up for me, personally. It was quite an Epiphany! I know now, for sure, that I am going to be able to reverse the "Brokeback Mountain" of my own life.

For me the movie is a heartrending tearjerker. I cried with disconsolate sorrow during it and for a long time after it. I thought I was going to die from the Pathos of it all, since …I am, one or the other or both of those Gay Characters, with all those same problems and complications to work out and deal with, and that's real scary.

I accepted the fact that I am very Gay when I was 49. I couldn't deny it or ignore it any longer. I've been working through it all these years since, just trapped like a rat. At the time my kids were teenagers with serious problems of their own, which made it extremely difficult and complicated. Now that they are stable adults, I finally surrendered to my Gayness 6 months ago. None of this has been either simple or easy or painless!

A gay commentator wrote, "I don't think you'll need to be a Gay for this movie to rip your heart out....But I think it rips an extra place or two if you are ." Boy, how well I know that. The heart is a lonely and relentless hunter, too!

So I’ve been really feeling the pain of being human, and especially the pain of being Gay in a culture, society and world that has never made it easy to be Gay. I feel for you, Buddy, and your Gay troubles, and for me, and all who have this pain. I'll be praying for you, for your pain, and for the right one with whom you can passionately connect with, to come along...and for you to be able to recognize him and to go for it with him.

I suspect you are a complex character, so it isn't easy for you in relationships. This is why the pain is a blessing in disguise. It helps us to look at what we need in a relationship and to make the sacrifices and adjustments that we need to make, to help us make that relationship work to fulfill our needs and the needs of the other. I pray that will become true for you. Since life is too short, be as happy as you can be in everything and find the happiness that is waiting for you in each moment, even the painful and difficult ones.

"How did you go from being straight, to all of a sudden wanting a man? I want to know what that is like."

Since I was a very young child, back in the 1950’s, I have been evolving consciously towards my homosexual identity. There are telling incidents from my early childhood on, that I vividly remember, of my attraction to men and male sex.

However, after my father’s remarriage when I was 5 years old, I was severely emotionally and psychologically tampered with by my parents and others in the strict puritanical culture I grew up in.

So, when I was an immature and deeply impressionable child, I was scared out of my mind by their homophobia and homo-hate. This deeply repressed me into a completely terrified total denial of who and what I am and what I felt about my sexual identity. I’ve always loved, desired and have been attracted to men, not women. I got the message loud and clear that I could never be Gay.

I was told Satan violently tempted many people with homo and perv temptations to dupe them into being Gay. I was told to fight them and resist them to death or I’d go to hell. As I began having these feelings/temptations a lot, suicide seemed like a good way to escape them before they destroyed me.

Of course back in those days people universally believed homosexuality was all a personally deliberate choice by wickedly evil sinners who "wanted" and "willed" to be perverts. Also people believed these homo pervs were all child molesters.

Just about all Bi’s and Gays were in the closet in that kind of world in the 1950’s, and I was living in a rural Catholic town in Massachusetts. There was no hope of any alternative to get any truth or an alternative vision or permission to be Gay.

I knew my parents would have litterally killed me if I were to be revealed as a Gay because of the shame to them. Both of them were very violent and physically abusive people. This was especially true of my very hateful stepmother who reinforced this frequently in words and deeds.

Since I was an altar boy and the church was a couple of doors up the street, I spent a lot of time there, with the priests and staff. It was a kinder world where I was safe from the alcoholic hell at home. Fortunately, our priests were incredibly good men, who genuinely cared about me and tried to help me. They became my heroes.

So, encouraged by the priests and others, I began to think I was called to the priesthood. This carried me through public school and at graduation from high school, I planned to join a monastic order. I eventually did.

Before that could happen I was drafted for the Vietnam war. I spent almost 12 years as a monk, forcing myself to be a chaste virginal celibate with a vow of chastity, and of course to try not to think deliberately about any kind of sex at all.

When my health broke down, and I was forced to leave monastic life. I did a pastoral internship out west. That convinced me I should not be ordained and live as a celibate parish priest. I was just too lonely in that life. I felt my personality disintegrating before my eyes.

When I told the Bishop, he asked me to continue working for him as a lay pastoral minister. That way my seminary education wouldn’t go to waste and I could make a living using it. I told him I was probably going to get married, which was just fine with him.

I got married to this wonderful spiritual woman who had broken through my shell and given me the first ever experience of being truly loved as a person. While my homo temptations, which had always been with me in the background were present at the time, we both dismissed them as stupid temptations to be ignored.

In time we were called as a couple to run an urban social ministry. It allowed us to make a break with the Catholic Church. I had too many problems with it and its inhumane teaching to stay with it.

Social ministry, like crime , doesn’t pay, so after our children were born and grew to a preschool age, we needed insurance benefits and more income to care for their developmental needs. It was as this point I began working in the human services, and eventually my career took off. This has lead to the kind of community development work I now do.

During the years of the marriage, I tried to keep my focus on being a loving husband to my wife and a good and caring father to our children. I thought hetero sex in marriage would take care of everything and eliminate the homo thoughts. Was I in for a big surprise.

Out of the blue as if from no where, I would meet younger professional men, and fall madly and insanely in love with them on the spot, in a type of homo-affective and homo-erotic obsession that would painfully last for days or weeks. All the while it terrified me and I struggled against it. It would subside, then occur again, even more violently, the next time around.

These experiences eventually got me to thinking about all the other attractions to males I have ever experienced, as a child, as a boy, as a teen, as a soldier, as a monk, as a married man. Bit by bit, I started putting two and two together, to begin understanding these weren’t temptations, but an orientation.

Fortunately, because of my specialized training to work with troubled clergy, and the actual experience of doing that work with quite a few Gay and lesbian clergy from various denominations, by then I had enough maturity and correct information to understand my own situation.

So, this was the first real step towards "coming out" to myself, but it would take many more steps over many more years to finally fully accept my Gayness. It also took a lot of work to try to get beyond all the terrible homophobic baggage I was carrying.

Meanwhile, the marriage, family life and work progressed. These absorbed all of my energy and didn’t allow for a lot of ability to explore my Gayness. After the birth of my daughter, in 1985, my wife went into a 7 year long premature menopause, which progressively wiped out her sex drive and her physical ability to have intercourse. So, out of a 24 year long marriage, it was sexually active for less than 7 years. While we are close best friends who love each other dearly, that didn't alleviate my sex drive. So our situation created quite a problem for me, since I’m normally sexed. Add to that the fact that I had missed any sex life before marriage at 34 years old. Marriage turned that drive on, nothing was turning it off. I struggled hopelessly with it to contain it, and even went into therapy to try to deal with it. It was a source of constant suffering and depression.

Finally, I was 49 when it fully dawned on me with complete clarity being Gay is who and what I am and it is not just an endless diabolical temptation to torment me from cradle to grave. I was looking at hetero porn to assuage my sexual loneliness in the marriage, but found myself focused exclusively on the males and repulsed by the females, how's that for an epiphany?
"Trick or Treat! You REALLY are GAY!!!!"

Over the years I did lots of research, read books, looked at Gay porn, spoke to Gay men every time I went on a business trip away from home. I spent a week of evenings hanging in a Gay strip club on one of this trips to a major city back on the east coast. I became the "father-they-never-had" to all the young beautiful strippers, who would come and talk with me heart to heart on their breaks in between sets. It taught me that some young Gay guys are attracted to me sexually, but not necessarily genitally; and that I might have something to give them from my personhood and experience that might be helpful to them.

I had a couple more years of psychotherapy to help me sort things out and adjust to my difficult reality. The therapist keep telling me I needed to end the marriage, divorce and get on with my life. Since I wasn’t ready to do that, I just kept struggling to try to make everything keep on working for the marriage and the family. My kids were at an age where the preservation of the marriage was still very important to them and their wellbeing, so I sacrificed and sacrificed.

One good thing came out of all this, the depression disorder that I have was finally clear enough to get diagnosed. They put me on a med for it that kept me very depression free and stable. Life became a little more bearable.

Meanwhile I was becoming like a sexual dam ready to burst. I needed real Gay sex. At 57, I finally became a sexually active Gay man, that was about 6 months ago. How absolutely wonderful to be with a man, make love with him, experience a man’s affection, tenderness and warmth. I connect emotionally with men in a way I never could with a women.

So, this whole long and difficult process has been like watching the psychic guts of my life get torn out and ground up before my very eyes. Good little Catholic boy that I was in all my childlike faith and naivete, ...

I had written to an old friend from my seminary days "...Oh God, the catastrophic mistakes we make when acting in good faith with a pure-hearted good conscience that’s trying to do "the right thing". We deny who and what we most fundamentally are as human beings, and allow our lives to be stolen from us in the name of a righteousness that is anything but right for us. That's exactly why all religions need to fully accept and completely integrate being Gay into their beliefs. Otherwise, their Gay adherents are led to live a colossal lie that leads to all the inhumane moral disasters that accompany being untrue to oneself."

I am Guilty as charged! ...Sorry to say, by my own reformed and retuned conscience. "Ya liv an ya learn!" "Ain't dat da troof!" The GOOD NEWS is that fortunately, God loves me Infinitely , understands me and all this better than I ever could, forgives whatever needs forgiving, and is healing all that needs healing.

So, it has taken me all these years, a wife, kids, family etc, before I could honestly face who I really am, but... I was a very repressed New England bred Catholic from a very strict moral and religious background...unfortunately caught between two worlds in a time of cataclysmic cultural, social and religious transition that left me on the wrong side of the 1960's. Now that I’m 58 and better adjusted, as an ex-Catholic whose been through quite a bit of therapy, I see the world of sexual reality very differently.

"So...say you had met me in a bar someplace - would you rather hook up with a man (hair and all) or some slender man who is shaved and all that"

Gee Buddy, that's a very personal question based on my personality type and temperamental needs, so I’ll only answer it for myself. Quite frankly, who ever were going to be the most affectionate and the sweetest with me would have my attention, it has little to do with the package and everything to do with the content.

Very deliberately, I have looked at zillions of Gay images over the years from age 49 to now (9 years I guess). Every possible type of man that I have found in any way attractive has been in my electronic archive at one time or another.

The thing I have learned from this "training exercise" has been, I am physically attracted to a very wide range of males, and they are all pretty much acceptable and desirable visually. I wanted to desensitize myself from a slavery to looks, per se. While I know it’s almost everything in the Gay world, I also know you have to base a fulfilling relationship on something deeper, like your true emotional needs and the personhood of your partner, with his emotional needs.

The other, more telling thing that I have learned about myself is that I am an Idealist/Wisdom-Teacher personality type with a Romantic/Passionate love style who needs a Romantic or Passionate or Spontaneous Lover to ring my bell. So, he who is the most affectionate and the sweetest with me will get me, since that is who I need to be with. Although, at my age, the scenario you set up is very unlikely. I doubt I could ever hope to have two men to consider at the same time.

I’m an old book with a pretty tattered and misshapen cover and binding. As you say, Buddy, I have great content, but most Gay guys judge books by their covers not their content. That’s a dead end, Buddy, so don’t you go there! Be discerning, and look at the content of the books that come to you, otherwise you might just be throwing away a treasure's worth of a man.


"So...I am wondering what it is like for a man like you, to really WANT to be with another man for love, and not just for sex, because I don't understand it, yet want to."

Buddy, I am a very sexy romantic lover bursting with wonderful passionate affection. I need to be somehow emotionally engaged with a lover, because that’s how the sex in the relationship causes you to connect on the higher levels of the mind and spirit, causes you to grow as a person, and gives a deeper meaning to your life.

If you’re just going through physical motions for short term gratification and shallow emotional satisfactions along with your orgasm, your just treading water relationally, you’re not moving deeper to win the race and gain the real hidden treasure to be found.

The goal of Gay relational life is becoming a whole person and being the best person you can be through what you do with the totality of your sexuality in every aspect of your love life together.

It is also simultaneously helping your lover/partner to do the same, and ideally, to do it together. We don’t get into heaven by going alone…on our own…the entry ticket is the trememdous self-transcendant lover we have become and all the loved ones we drag in tow with us through our transformative life-giving love for them…
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Well Bois and Guyz, there you have it, what my friend Buddy managed to pry out of me. While there are a bunch of different themes there, I've chosen to focus particularly on PAIN, relational pain, and its utility for stimulating growth.

Human nature being what it is, not too many of us in our contentment or complacency ever think we need to grow just because it is good for us. Usually, being human, we just do nothing, which then brings us the fruits of doing nothing, and we experience the troubles and pain that it produces via the vacuity it causes in our relational life. Ah, "It's all good training", as the Army Drill Instructor would say as we were dieing during a training exercise designed to kill us into the living dead before an enemy had the chance to do it for real. That training that "forced" us to painfully grow, even though we didn't like it. It ended up saving a lot of our lives.

So with that same tragi-comic sense, I profer these various thoughts to you in hopes something somewhere in them will profit you for your personal growth and training, and the improvement of your relational life and style. If just one small point strikes you and your fancy, gets your attention, and moves you to think about something you could improve or do better or a way that you could grow, their mission will not have been for naught. "Not for naught was the Knot of this somewhat naughty weave."

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Thank you for being you!
Thank you for all the good you do!

Dear Boyz and Guyz,
I'm sorry I haven't been able to post lately...I have had a very exhausting job change that has left me excessively tired. On top of it all, I've gotten a head cold that just won't give up...so things have been a bit rocky, woozy and punchy for me lately. I'm really enjoying the new job, even though I find it at times a bit demanding of my preretirement energy levels.

I had been meaning to put this little exchange up for your ongoing edification in our series of reflections on more focused Gay living and relational life. This all happened very suddenly one evening on JUB, with "happened" being the operative word and connoting the nuances of spontaneity and surprise.

As you may be aware, one of the most beloved regulars and "characters" on JUB is our omnipresent and ever gracious Elvin1. He is the author and most often featured subject in a personal thread entitled "me".

This "me" has little or nothing to do with egomania, and everything to do with the sweet commonplaces and interpersonal banter of everyday life being lived with some significant and trascendant transparency. I find it refreshing and tune in when I need a shot of humanity just artlessly and humbly rolling along in simplicity, honestly and unselfconsciousness towards the eschaton. These guys wear their hearts on their sleeves and let it all hang out.

Occasionally, Elvin1 posts self pixs to document this journey, which of course, get abundantly commented upon by the various interlocutors who cojourney regularly or intermittently drop in, like moi.

And, of course, Elvin1, being something of a delectable stud muffin, constantly has to parry the assaults of those who want to rip his clothes off to get to see the entire anatomy and especially the Elvin1 surprise package. He, being a tease with a good sense of humor, knows how to play this out very skillfully, to the ongoing delight and chagrin of all.

So, I stumbled into one such interlude, that wasn't quite a nude as everyone would have desired. And so the storm of comments, pleas, begging, etc. was proceeding as normal, all to good affect even though it wasn't producing the desired naked below the belt effect in its glorious entirety (perhaps Elvin1, as a proper southern gentleperson, is modest, reserved or even shy about the full monty, God alone knows!).

It's at this point I enter the fray by reposting this pix with my comment:

Quote:
Originally Posted by elvin1
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Hey Elvin Babe, you are a wicked tease, especially for the cock crazed! When are you going to have mercy on your faithful admirers?
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And the Noble Sir Ronboy said:

Elvin, you never cease to amaze me! You are always one of the sexiest Jubbers!
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The Three Musketeers... Bashful, Chrisglass, and Ronboy!

Then elvin1 responded:







LOL...Thanks guys. You're awesome....:kiss:
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Bored...:cool:

So, then I blurted out this home truth:
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Elvin, we're just reflecting back to you, a bit of the good humor, joi de vivre, cammeraderie, and humanity you constantly show us! You are reaping what you've sown, and it is a beautiful harvest for a beautiful man who is also a beautiful human being! (*8*) :kiss:

YOU ARE ONE OF THE LIVING TREASURES OF JUB!!!

:didisay:

Then Elvin replied:
Wow Man....I can't believe you said that. That's one of the NICEST things anyone has ever said to me....Thanks babe. :kiss:(*8*)



"Deep calling unto deep" and "heart speaking to heart" I shared with him my observations about himself:
Well, Elvin, the good news is it is all true. I've been aware of you for a good while, watching you shine out your goodness to all. You are really a good and great guy. I just have never had the opportunity or opening to tell you that. It came today. There's lots more guys out there who appreciate you as much as I do. You make our world a better place, and we respect and love you for that. It just goes to show you that it's hard to know the good you do or how it affects others for the better, but it really does, in many ways on many different levels.

Oh Elvin, I forgot to say it before but it should also be said to you:

Thank you for being you!
Thank you for all the good you do!
Thank you for being here for us!
THANK YOU!!!
THANK YOU!!!
THANK YOU!!!

MAY GOD BLESS AND KEEP YOU!


Elvin, I guess speechless (a rare occasion!) sent this final message:


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Re: Me

!oops! !oops! !oops!

;)

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Well Boyz and Guyz, that's my reflection for this time around...and I think the morale to it applies to all of us and our lives, no matter how obscure or lackluster we may seem to ourselves or others... it's hard to know the good you do or how it affects others for the better, but it really does!
Let us never grow weary of doing good to others and this world we live in. Amen.

Elvin1, thanks for modelling this virtue for all of us and thus becoming my posterchild for this post, you gorgeous angel/handsome devil (It's hard to tell the difference!)
Thank you for being you!
Thank you for all the good you do!







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Happy Holidays!
Dear Friends, Boyz and Guyz,
This is a quick hello to wish you happy holidays. I don't have a clue as to what you celebrate, so now's the time to send a greeting to cover all the bases of all the forthcoming celebrations.


My best to you and your loved ones in this holiday season, with every wish for a happy and prosperous civil new year!

Be well and be happy!
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Love,
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Pavfen
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THE HEART IS A LONELY HUNTER....
Here we go, off to the start of a new year. The relationship thread is still a hot topic in this blog so we run with it. A couple of days ago I was at "Show Off Your Cock" admiring all the wonderful gay cocks from everywhere. We had a little exchange with a very nice new guy from Italy. In the course of the exchange this theme emerged. I had to put my two cents in, so here is it replayed for you:
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Re: Show off your cock.......
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Originally Posted by hairypier

Quote: Originally Posted by hairypier
In this very moment I need desperately a horny guy to fuck with! :sex: *|*
Thanks dear Buzzj,

You know... sometimes is not so easy. And in this moment I'd like to meet with the right boy, not the one for a night of love and that's that... !oops!

Sooner or later... ](*,)

best,

PIER

Caro Pier,

Your gallery pixs are wonderful. You have such a beautiful warm smile and all that gorgeous body hair. You are quite the cub! You have the right stuff!

Finding good partners is a patient process. Since you want more than just casual relations, it's going to take more time and effort and energy to invest yourself into a relationship that will bring you what you are hoping for.

Do not despair. He's out there, and you will find each other. But you must remember that the heart is a lonely hunter, very relentless, constantly driven by desire, EROS, to find someone just right to complete you as a person.

Be patient, dear friend, knowing that in the very urgency of your heart and through the very unbearableness of your desire that your time will come soon. This restlessness, EROS, driven-ness, urgency and unbearableness are all at the service of you hunting heart, as it seeks and searches.

They are pushing you to find him whom your heart desires even though you may never have seen him before. They will make you know him when you see him and hear him. For they already know him and his image and are revealing him to you in the search.

Be at Peace and savor your Hope! All will be well!(*8*) :kiss:
p
The Grandpa Polarbear
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So Boyz and Guyz, I guess we can't underestimate the role of our hunting and restless hearts in our romatic life and longings. We need to listen careful to them, and work with them, if we are to find the happiness, peace and joy that make life worth living and make some sense out of our existence.

Great Psychologists like Jung and Progroff would certainly tell us us this is absolutely essential if we are to find our true selves and live the life we need to live to become fulfilled as human persons. This entails some inner work and attentiveness. It needs some effort at listening to our inner selves and engagement with understanding the movements of our hearts. But the potential rewards are very great, and so that makes the effort more than worth it.

Be patient... knowing that in the very urgency of your heart and by the very unbearableness of your desire that your time will come soon.




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My Prayer is for your Peace and Happiness in this holiday season!
 
Yes it's true, Boys n Guyz!
Take a look and join the celebration of this remakable feat.

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5228914&postcount=1157


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Originally Posted by pr8wlwn


Well Pr8,
Congrats to you in your marvelous effort to cure lack of sexual fantasy, starvation for male beauty, rekindling of libido, affirmation of gayety, and endless ministrations of homo-erotic pleasures to say nothing of aesthetic delectation in mind, body and spirit. Besides your own innate horniness, all of this has revealed your own deep sensitivity and your own inner beauty, which is a joy for us to experience. "By their fruits shall you know them..."

KUDOS in excelsis!!!!

with profound gratitude and appreciation,

luv :kiss:(*8*)
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CONGRATS Pr8!!
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AND
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MANY THANKS!!!

:kiss: (*8*) :kiss: (*8*)
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:wave:The "Under 6" Club at JUB is alive and well and filling with gorgeous "Under 6" Cocks. :=D: Recently the question arose about the most accurate method of measuring a penis. Corny the Moderator offered this info and advice:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size#Measuring_the_penis

Measuring the penis
To get the most accurate measurements for an individual's penis size, it has been recommended that several measurements be taken at different times, preferably with different erections on different days. The measurements are then to be averaged together. This is to account for what may be natural variability in size due to factors such as arousal level, time of day, room temperature, frequency of sexual activity, and unreliability of the measurement methods.[2]
Length
The length can be measured with the subject standing and the penis held parallel to the floor. The penis is measured along the top, from the base to the tip. Results are inaccurate if the measurement is taken along the underside of the penis, or if the subject is seated or prone.[2]
Circumference
Penis girth is the measurement of the circumference of the completely erect penis. It is variously quoted as an average of three measurements: just below the glans penis, in the middle of the shaft, and at the base.[2]
Problems
A penis must be completely erect in order to obtain an accurate measurement. This may be difficult to achieve in a clinical setting. At least one Brazilian doctor resorted to injecting penises with drugs to induce erection, which gave more consistent results.[4] Some clinicians measure the penis by stretching the flaccid penis as far as comfortably possible.[5] Self-reported measurements tend to be unreliable because men often want to report a larger penis size.
Studies on penis size
While results vary across studies, the consensus is that the mean human penis is approximately 12.9–15 cm (5.1–5.9 in) in length with a 95% confidence interval of (10.7 cm, 19.1 cm) (or, equivalently, 4.23 in, 7.53 in). The typical girth or circumference is approximately 12.3 cm (4.85 in) when fully erect. The mean penis size is slightly greater than the median size.

:soapbox:Then I put my two cents in, based upon my own research for my sexuality courses that I taught over the years:


Hey Boyz!

Corny's citation of Wikipedia is right on, since it is based on the scientific penile research methods of the world famous Kinsey Istitute. Since they need an accurate, universally reliable way to collect penile data, they set the measurement taking standards and methods. They have measured a very large number of men in laboratory research conditions.

They have the men position their penises on a table top appropriate for their groin heigth, and measure from the external base of the penis at the pubic bone over the anterior or top side of the penis, down to the meatus or pee slit. Consistently applied to all the men measured in the same climatic conditions (a warm room, so that the cold doesn't contract the penis) and trying to keep the men calm and relaxed, so that their is no involuntary fear retraction of the penis) they have determined that the median penis size is 5.8 inches.

Since this is never an exact science due to the various uncontrollable factors, they have suggested that average penis length lies between 5.0 and 5.9 inches. They also remind all of us that anything above 3.0 or so inches is normal for human males, and that the various problems of the health situation called Micro penis require case by case consultation. Gay men need to reminded that penis size as a medical issue is concerned with the ability of males to naturally inseminate females for reproductive purposes. It has little or nothing to do with masculinity per se, or the manliness or any man.

While the porn industry has perpetuated some unfortunate myths about penile size due to their need to easily view and video or film penises "in action", this has little relation to the many different builds and functions of millions of gay men and their beloved penises. It is just more of the illusion of an entertainment business serving up endless dreamlike illusions vastly at variance with the ordinary and common reality of its consumers, quite often shamelessly and contemptuously exploited for profit-making motives.

While we should alway try to do our best wiith what we've got, what's more important is that we always try to give what is best deep with in us, in our hearts or spirits or souls as our selfgift of love, affection, care and concern to each other in our sexual and partnering relations, really and truly "love the one you're with". That, rather than your endowment, will make all the difference. It will make you an extraordiary and evermemorable lover!


P E A C E ! ! ! :D


Be Well and Be Happy


Find the Joy hidden in All


Love (*8*) :kiss:

p ;)

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My friend Will (the very talented author of JUB's long running "Once Daily Dosing" & "Manpills" threads) has been pondering the problem of open relationships vs. committed exclusive relationships in his wonderful web blog, "The Ministry of Pleasure". He has also commented recently on the related theme of meeting men with attractive beautiful souls who turn out to be attached or committed to someone else. So here we go:
Bitter Yet Sweet...
Rachmaninoff - Piano Concerto No 1 - Rhapsody On A Theme Of Paganini

I met someone genuinely nice last night, it's just that he's already been taken by someone nice... x

MY COMMENTS:

WELL WILL,

THIS SOMEBODY NICE IS A LIVING PROPHETIC SIGN TO YOUR INNER SELF OF SOME OF THE QUALITIES THAT WILL HELP YOU RECOGNIZE YOUR UNIQUE AND ONLY
ONE.
SO COUNT YOUR BLESSINGS AS YOU MOVE TOWARD THAT ENCOUNTER AND THAT REVELATION.

AND ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT:

THE DEEPEST LOVE IS FOREVER,

IT IS ETERNAL

AND UNENDING,

IT IS CALM

AND COMMITTED,


IT PARTAKES OF THE DIVINE AND

IT MAKES US PARTAKE IN THE DIVINE.

IT IS BEYOND FLEETING PASSIONS

THAT COOL AND FIZZLE, EVEN

THOUGH THEY GIVE US A BIG BANG HIGH

FOR A SHORT WHILE.


"FOR LOVE IS STRONGER
THAN DEATH ...

...AND MORE RELENTLESS THAN THE GRAVE"

I SENSE YOUR HOT PURSUIT IS WARMING UP AND YOUR TIME IS COMING TO ITS FULNESS.

BE FAITHFUL TO AND PATIENT WITH YOUR PROCESS.

IT WILL LEAD YOU TO HIM AND THE HAPPY LIFE TOGETHER THAT YOU BOTH LONG FOR AND SEEK.

BE SERENE!

WILL, MY DARLING, YOU CONTINUE
TO LIVE IN THE PRAYERS OF MY HEART.

pav(*8*):kiss:

I'D REMIND EVERYONE:

LOVE IS THE MEANING,

AND IN SOME MYSTERIOUS WAY...

EVERY MOMENT IS THE MOMENT OF LOVE...

SO MAKE LOVE YOUR SOLE OCCUPATION...

BECOME AND BE THAT MOST TREMENDOUS COSMIC LOVER...

THAT YOU WERE INTENDED TO BE...

DIVINE LOVE MADE VISIBLE.


WELL BOYZ AND GYZ, THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

;)P E A C E ! ! ! :biggrin:
Be Well and Be Happy
Find the Joy hidden in All



Love (*8*) :kiss:

p ;)


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