Percentage of homosexuals in the world

[NotHardUp1]

Night of the Living Dead Threads.

This was dormant for over 10 years.

Hot Topic indeed.

 

[Kahaih]

/\ We've had time to recruit.

 

[cityboy-stl]

This is always a Catch-22.

If someone posts in an old thread, there are complaints about the thread being dormant for 10 years, and they should have started a new thread.

If someone posts a new thread about an existing topic, there are complaints about them not doing a search and adding to that thread.

It happens on every message board I've ever been on.

Take your pick.

 

[eddielee]

Well, I suppose I'm also a living dead relic from the old JUB days. On topic, I do think there is between 18 and 25 percent of the population that is homosexual. We will never know for certain, but the often quoted 10% is pure bullshit and wishful thinking in a straight man's world.

 

[Level27]

This is always a Catch-22.

If someone posts in an old thread, there are complaints about the thread being dormant for 10 years, and they should have started a new thread.

If someone posts a new thread about an existing topic, there are complaints about them not doing a search and adding to that thread.

It happens on every message board I've ever been on.

Take your pick.

Absolutely.

And, honestly, no one noticed nor cared that this thread was revived. People have their reasons to.
I certainly did for reviving my own half-decade-old thread. (I guess I'd be obnoxious if I kept talking about it every opportunity I get, so I'm not planning on saying more regarding it.)

Anyways, very nicely put.

Edit - More pertinently to the topic at hand:
I find it encouraging that some of us gay men speculate apopulation as high as 25%. Is that 25% being gay men or being any men who had ever had sex (or the mere thought of sex) with men?
While I can certainly appreciate this number, I do feel right now that it is a bit overtly exaggerated.

 

[NotHardUp1]

This is always a Catch-22.

If someone posts in an old thread, there are complaints about the thread being dormant for 10 years, and they should have started a new thread.

If someone posts a new thread about an existing topic, there are complaints about them not doing a search and adding to that thread.

It happens on every message board I've ever been on.

Take your pick.

I used to like the old threads returning, but I have a bitter taste in my mouth from a mod treating revivals like some CoC violation. Pettiness.

 

[peeonme]

Well, I suppose I'm also a living dead relic from the old JUB days. On topic, I do think there is between 18 and 25 percent of the population that is homosexual. We will never know for certain, but the often quoted 10% is pure bullshit and wishful thinking in a straight man's world.

You would have to define what a homosexual is and work strictly within those parameters to have a decisive conclusion as to what percent of the population is gay. There are indeed "shades of gay" ranging from those who only have an interest in the same sex to those who have a predominant interest in females but on occasion notice a hot dude and quickly suppress the thought.

In my mind I see the capacity to engage in a sexual encounter as a barometer for a conclusion pertaining to one's true sexuality. On one end of the spectrum of mature men (I exclude teens and tweens as any thing might turn them on) you find men that could not perform sexually in any way shape or form with a female. I am not sure that they are so much "repulsed" by a vagina or if it is more like a kidney or other organ to them... it has it's place, but not in a sexual sense. On the other end are men who when they see a penis only think "big deal, I got one too". They would never under any circumstance think about sex with another guy.

I believe that the vast majority of men fall somewhere between the two extremes. Circumstance, societal constraints, religious teachings and fear (not to be taken as an exhaustive list of reasons) all play a part in what a male will react to as well as their own comfort zone. There are probably few 50/50 males. Some prefer males but a female will do and others prefer a female but if horny enough will do the deed with a guy.

This might be an old topic, but it's worth taking a fresh look at.

 

[Araucaria]

I've noticed something over the years. The percentage of gay people seems to matter more in anti-gay periods and social eras. At those times, it becomes a political argument, with the gay side arguing for higher numbers, to show that we are important and we matter, while the anti-gay side argues for smaller numbers, in an attempt to erase us and diminish our influence.

However, in times. and places where where is more acceptance of LGBTQ people, the numbers don't seem to matter, and percentages are almost never discussed. It's as if everyone just gets on with their lives, and deals with others based on who they encounter, and the way they present themselves.

 

[KaraBulut]

...My 20 to 25% is more from real life experience. It's not from data. I guess we'll never really know. All I know is that there are lots of bisexual men in Hollywood and I'm happy it might be that way.

You may not be far off, according to some of the latest stats on "pansexuality" and the transgender phenomenon.

 

[Level27]

I've noticed something over the years. The percentage of gay people seems to matter more in anti-gay periods and social eras. At those times, it becomes a political argument, with the gay side arguing for higher numbers, to show that we are important and we matter, while the anti-gay side argues for smaller numbers, in an attempt to erase us and diminish our influence.

However, in times. and places where where is more acceptance of LGBTQ people, the numbers don't seem to matter, and percentages are almost never discussed. It's as if everyone just gets on with their lives, and deals with others based on who they encounter, and the way they present themselves.

Yes and no.

My homosexuality has been a synthesis of my makeup for more than 1.5 decades: I don't have to talk about my gay identity and remind myself that I'm "proud" of it to live life acceptingly; I don't have to "accept" myself to feel accepted.

Yet, as some people are statistics and number bluffs and me being counted among them, I've always been curious what the world ratio of natal biological makes to females is. I've also made speculative calculations as to what the global homosexual male youth population and older gen population would be, if the percentage were actually this and this. Furthermore, what how do we break down the statistics more specifically for "gay" men? How many are "pure" gays? How many are "homoflexible"? How many are 50-50 bisexuals (and would they even count among the % of gays, or would they be their own percentage?)

What is the 'true' ratio of homos to "heteroflexibles"?

I know I'm not the only casually inquisitive head around. There are even scholarly works written on it by curious acedemics.

 

[rareboy]

On the spectrum I would say that easily probably 20% of men have some homosexual tendencies...I would say though that for the gold and platinum homos out here though, that it is maybe more around the 10% level.

 

[pornoboy]

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[jjonn3]

I remember in health class / sex ed the teacher saying that the exact percentage was unknown because it was all self reported but the estimate was between 5 and 10 percent of people were gay.

A couple of periods later at the end of gym class I was standing in the shower and thought about how 5 - 10% of the guys were gay. Needless to say that was the fastest shower I ever took as I needed to get dried off and dressed fast!

 

[NotHardUp1]

As Auracaria has mentioned, the politics of the numbers have made the discussions somewhat circular. Further obscuring is the ongoing closeted nature of gays, which has continued even in an era of gay rights. Of course, it hasn't helped that the left and left-leaning media have used the potential reversal of gay rights as a dog whistle in the current women's rights setback on abortion rights in the U.S. But that is so recent, it can't be the main driver in the continuing reticence of so many young gay men to be closeted.

And I'm not convinced it's a matter of insecurity or shame in the West, where is certainly is in India, Africa, China, and the Slavic states. I'd rather posit that it is stigma as being sexuality forward, if you will. Many men do not want something so private as one's sex life to become center stage. If they are ambitious writers, scientists, politicians, military officers, authors, artists, or whatever, many do not want "the gay" to precede that title or distinction, mainly because their first love or ambition is the other thing, not bonking men.

As for the possibility that haters are intentionally understating gay incidence in men, that may not hold up under scrutiny, not away from Russia and some African states who use the whole issue as a sort of ultra-nationalism thing to claim an ethnic purity, like Shintoism did. In the West, it was broadly believed that male sexuality included an experimental phase in which young males ventured into same sex encounters during early adolescence, as a precursor to becoming more mature and confidently progressing to full heterosexual interest. With that theory making almost 100% of men as one-time gay boys, that doesn't understate the incidence very well.

Today, with so much having been won on the front of rights for same sex couples, I focus on gays being men who prefer same sex partners in sex, because that choice is most likely causing abridged social and legal rights, which is not the case in men who are pansexual and may not ever be publicly either gay or straight. It doesn't make bisexual men less important, just less in the crosshairs, or at least until societies evolve enough to allow marriages/partnerships with mutiple men and women sharing their lives openly.

For now, until the closeted ones come forth in representative numbers, it appears to be men who favor same sex partners exclusively is far less than even five percent, away from magnet industries or cities, just in the general population.

 

[NotHardUp1]

There is also a cultural problem with gay men believing that more men are just waiting to be approached before coming out as "heteroflexible," which could be self-defeating in many cases.

Aside from the true bisexual men, who are pretty rare even on JUB, there have always been men who will tell you very quicky that anyone can suck their dick when they feel the urge, but they clearly don't prefer it to be a man when they have the choice. That is opportunism, not sexual orientation. We should face that and not try to restate one thing as another.

 

[Alistair]

You may not be far off, according to some of the latest stats on "pansexuality" and the transgender phenomenon.

He makes some good points.

My kid is in 10th grade and all her friends are bisexual. The whole marching band is actually out gays.

 

[NotHardUp1]

How many sophomores are in your daughter's school? How many in your town, roughly?

How many of your daughter's friends have had sex, in your estimate?

How many of the bisexual professing students are male?

Context seems relevant, as I know people who live in urban centers and they are surrounded by gays by their choice socially. And I know many more who live in surburbia or rural places and they don't have almost any out gay friends.

 

[Riverrick]

Moreover if I had to serve lifelong in a women's prison, I would never have sex with any woman there. I have no desire for women whatsoever. You need at least to have desire for men to have sex with them. If you don't have any sexual desire for men, you will NEVER NEVER... have any desire to have sex with them whatsoever and will never actually have sex with one.

I might close my eyes and let one of them give me a blowjob. If I was really horny which I would be bound to get after a while. I think we have the ability to be somewhat fluid with our sexuality on purpose so that our libido's can be set on high at all times and we can find other outlets if needed. I see myself as 100% gay but I've never been locked up in prison for years with only females to consort with. My standards might change.

 

[Kahaih]

I might close my eyes and let one of them give me a blowjob. If I was really horny which I would be bound to get after a while. I think we have the ability to be somewhat fluid with our sexuality on purpose so that our libido's can be set on high at all times and we can find other outlets if needed. I see myself as 100% gay but I've never been locked up in prison for years with only females to consort with. My standards might change.

How long before you would willingly perform oral on a woman? LOL

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@ any port in a storm

I've been both amused and put off by married men who go to great lengths to create a 'storm'.

One such time was a one night stay in a cabin not more than five miles from the guy's girlfriend/soon to be wife. Just the two of us, and when he started getting frisky and moaning about missing his girlfriend, I offered to pack up and drive him to her house. He declined my offer, and I declined his advances. I was never invited for a night at his cabin again. LOL

Over the years, there have been many such 'mysterious' misadventures. . . . before I learnt to spot them in the making. LOL

 

[Riverrick]

How long before you would willingly perform oral on a woman? LOL

Hmmmm....point made.