Please stop comparing Obama to JFK!

[NickCole]

ignorance from all directions

his term of office began January 2005.

you can do the math.

I hope.

Yep.

One year working as Senator and one year campaigning.

I can do the math.

 

[iman]

Obama spent his first year in the Senate and has been running for President ever since, announcing in February of 2007. I don't find that comforting.

 

[gabriel1]

John F Kennedy spurred a younger generation to action with his "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Physical fitness became a standard for american schools, the Peace Corp became a standard for helping impoverished countries help themselves.

The race to the moon took on a new course after our disappointing showing against the USSR.

If Obama can achieve things in this day like JFK did in 1960, I say we are better off.

I agree with other posts that who to know JFK better than his only surviving brother and his only surviving direct family member Caroline. Jacqueline made sure that the children knew who their father was and what he stood for.

All personal frailities aside John F Kennedy was a ray of hope of a country that so very badly needed change, and in Barack Obama, others see the same.

 

[chillyboi]

having not read any posts on this thread,(dont need or want to) a-men to that
also no one in their right mind should compare any man to JFK

 

[tmb1]

Yep.

One year working as Senator and one year campaigning.

I can do the math.

Um really? 1+1=3? 2008-2005=3

And I guess experience in state legislature doesnt count as well as life experience in general. Clinton seems to get a pass like her years as first lady count as governing for some reason.

 

[wilehart1978]

Why? Ted Kennedy doesn't see a problem with the comparsion.

Just stop it.

 

[tmb1]

Obama spent his first year in the Senate and has been running for President ever since, announcing in February of 2007. I don't find that comforting.

He started serving in jan 2005, having won election in 2004. God can noone add simple math here anymore?

 

[gabriel1]

He started serving in jan 2005, having won election in 2004. God can noone add simple math here anymore?

Since when did 1+1 NOT equal 3 .... NYUK NYUK NYUK

 

[NickCole]

Um really? 1+1=3? 2008-2005=3

I was wrong.

You're right.

Obama served two years before he began campaigning.

Apparently you think two years experience is enough to be President of the United States. I don't. Not in times like today. Not when we have an experienced candidate who's ready for the job.

 

[tmb1]

Mazda, the antipathy the press has for him dates back to the 90s.

Remember that supposed $400 haircut, that kept Air Force One waiting? It was pure fiction, invented by a scorned reporter. An expose in Vanity Fair revealed this. Records from the FAA determined that there was no delay whatever in the flight schedule. When the spokeswomen for the FAA commented on this issue, she merely said,"No one asked us."

I don't know what kind of falling out Bill had with the press, but I see the same pattern reemerging.

By contrast, Obama has been worshipped by the press, so far. I don't know if he's going to win the nomination, but I believe that, if he does, the press will crucify him.

I don't know who youve been watching but even more central to right leaning(like Scarborough and Matthews) journalists seem mesmerized by Obama. Chris Matthews said repeatedly to viewers after the Kennedy endorsement speech and subsequent Obama speech that if young people wanted to know what it felt like in the early 60's, this was it. He even brings hope to journalists, he must be the devil

 

[tmb1]

I was wrong.

You're right.

Obama served two years before he began campaigning.

Apparently you think two years experience is enough to be President of the United States. I don't. Not in times like today. Not when we have an experienced candidate who's ready for the job.

LOL
youre so predictable, I knew this would be your response. Exactly who is this qualified candidate whos ready for the job? McCain? Romney? Or do you mean Clinton? So her years as first lady count as legislative and leading experience? And doesnt state legislative experience count for Obama? Or his life experience? Personally I don't want anymore of Clintons experience in there. Move on time for something new and fresh.

 

[iman]

If the truth be told, and it seldom is, Obama began running for President as soon as he got out of Harvard.

 

[tmb1]

If the truth be told, and it seldom is, Obama began running for President as soon as he got out of Harvard.

LOL!
Oh thank you great speaker of the truth(and apparent mind reader) your funny!

And god forbid someone aspires to be something and change the world for the good.

 

[JackFTwist]

If the truth be told, and it seldom is, Obama began running for President as soon as he got out of Harvard.

If the truth be told, and it seldom is, Hillary began running for president the moment she said, "Bill, I won't divorce you but the price you have to pay for that blow job from the fat girl is..."

 

[wilehart1978]

Is your post for real?

Here! Here! I agree! Listening to her endorsement of Obama she is only going by what otheer people have told her about here father. She was so young when he was killed she wouldn't even have known where he stood on any thing. Just because the Kennedy's support him doesn't mean he gets my vote. I think he talks the talk and that's all.

 

[Raincoat Massacre]

Why? Ted Kennedy doesn't see a problem with the comparsion.

I wasn't even alive when JFK was president and yet when I watch old news reruns or read speeches of his I am inspired. When I watch Obama I am not inspired. Period. What has he said that is so inspiring that the other candidates haven't said? JFK was VERY inspiring and is one of my favorite presidents of all. But until I hear Obama say something the candidates haven't already said I'm voting for someone else. I never said that Ted and Caroline didn't know their late father/brother. I'm saying Its a bit far to say hes like JFK. Neither is Hillary nor edwards.

I'm not going to hop on the Obama sensitivity band wagon, I'm not going to feel sorry for him. His campaign runs on Race and sympathy, "Clinton said this, Clinton said that". Toughen up. Because if he wins the nod the republicans are going rip him to shreds.

Sorry.

 

[wilehart1978]

Very good point! I think it is absurd to think that Caroline Kennedy knows nothng of her father and his legacy. To say her endorsement is nothing more than someone telling her what to say is insulting. Just as insulting is the characterization of young voters of privilege who aren;t part of the working class buying into Obama's message of change. Some of the posts on this thread are scary! Barack Obama is an impressive candidate whose intellect is quite impressive - as is Clinton's. The Obama and Clinton campaigns are groundbreaking, historic and good for this country.

When an African American and female are the front runners for a presidential nomination of a natonal political party, it galvinizes that party and its minority and female voters. Should an Obama-Clinton or Clinton-Obama ticket emerge, it could mean record turnouts for voters who would otherwise not participate in the process. Whoever gets the nomination, the Democratic Party wins in the end because these two campaigns are real history in the making. They have awakened a sleeping electorate just as George Bush did when the religious block of voters forged him past Kerry for the win in 2004.

The exit polls in South Carolina showed over 70% of Democratic voters said the country is ready for a female or African-American president. I believe they are correct. Today, Clinton wins Florida and has leads in many of the states that hold primaries on Super Tuesday. This is great for the Democratic Party. I, and millions others, see this. For the record, I'm not even a Democrat!

Oh, I don't know, I think I can trust Ted knowing his brother. Or, Caroline knowing her father. You don't think that the day after the assassination they locked Caroline and John John in a room and did not allow them to learn about their father?

 

[Raincoat Massacre]

Very good point! I think it is absurd to think that Caroline Kennedy knows nothng of her father and his legacy. To say her endorsement is nothing more than someone telling her what to say is insulting. Just as insulting is the characterization of young voters of privilege who aren;t part of the working class buying into Obama's message of change. Some of the posts on this thread are scary! Barack Obama is an impressive candidate whose intellect is quite impressive - as is Clinton's. The Obama and Clinton campaigns are groundbreaking, historic and good for this country.

When an African American and female are the front runners for a presidential nomination of a natonal political party, it galvinizes that party and its minority and female voters. Should an Obama-Clinton or Clinton-Obama ticket emerge, it could mean record turnouts for voters who would otherwise not participate in the process. Whoever gets the nomination, the Democratic Party wins in the end because these two campaigns are real history in the making. They have awakened a sleeping electorate just as George Bush did when the religious block of voters forged him past Kerry for the win in 2004.

The exit polls in South Carolina showed over 70% of Democratic voters said the country is ready for a female or African-American president. I believe they are correct. Today, Clinton wins Florida and has leads in many of the states that hold primaries on Super Tuesday. This is great for the Democratic Party. I, and millions others, see this. For the record, I'm not even a Democrat!

If the man gets the nod I will vote for him. I may not like it but I will. lol

And great point these are two very ground breaking campaigns. And seeing as a woman and a black man are the front runners really does say something about what our country wants.

 

[wilehart1978]

Gothic,

It's not even about JFK. Although I believe who best to make the comparsion to Obama than the Kennedys themselves. You really can't argue with them on that. I'm impressed at the Kennedy endorsements. Obama should consider himself privileged as Ted Kennedy does speak for an older generation.

Democrats are voting is records numbers and I really don't think Clinton or Obama will be totally torn to shreds by a Republican machine. Hillary Clinton has been through it already and Obama is learning more and more each day about effective campaigning. He has fought back and fought back hard when necessary. We are dealing with two very intelligent, charismatic candidates who will hold their own just as Bill Clinton and Al Gore did and Kerry could not.

As for race and sympathy, he's an African American candidate so race will be an issue as is Hillary's gender will. Both facts can't be hidden and some in both camps will exploit that. No different than a war hero running for president will use his record to his advantage while exploiting record of the candidate with no military experience. It's politics, Gothic. Any of the aforementioned situations can be the difference in a candidacy.

Obama doesn't need the sympathy vote or anyone feeling sorry for him. People are impressed and many embodied in his message of change no matter how weak some think it is. His is not a campaign of sympathy, it's of hope. That same hope about which Martin Luther King spoke about seeing men rise together regardless of their race or creed. This historic race will change the landscape of American politics forever. Look at where we are right now. We need that landscape changed if we really are to save ourselves.

In defense of Hillary, Ted Turner said it best: "Men should be barred from public office for 100 years in every part of the world...The men have had millions of years where we've been running things. We've screwed it up hopelessly. Let's give it to the women". Sadly, Turner has a point.

I wasn't even alive when JFK was president and yet when I watch old news reruns or read speeches of his I am inspired. When I watch Obama I am not inspired. Period. What has he said that is so inspiring that the other candidates haven't said? JFK was VERY inspiring and is one of my favorite presidents of all. But until I hear Obama say something the candidates haven't already said I'm voting for someone else. I never said that Ted and Caroline didn't know their late father/brother. I'm saying Its a bit far to say hes like JFK. Neither is Hillary nor edwards.

I'm not going to hop on the Obama sensitivity band wagon, I'm not going to feel sorry for him. His campaign runs on Race and sympathy, "Clinton said this, Clinton said that". Toughen up. Because if he wins the nod the republicans are going rip him to shreds.

Sorry.

 

[iman]

"Bill, I won't divorce you but the price you have to pay for that blow job from the fat girl is..."

It is always interesting to hear the Christian perspective. Do you do marriage counseling? Perhaps you are a Leviticus fan and advocate stoning? It would certainly seem that character assassination has become a prime christian virtue. Let's all hope that Senator Obama has never succumbed to the temptations of the flesh and is the model of virtue that I'm sure you are.