POLL: Ethnic/racial preferences

[nightmale]

European white male is the preferred ethnicity when it comes to dating preference (and other things).

in a primarily white society. what about japan? in japan many gay bars and saunas do not allow non-japanese guys to get in. there is more racism there than in canada.

 

[Zildjian]

in a primarily white society. what about japan? in japan many gay bars and saunas do not allow non-japanese guys to get in. there is more racism there than in canada.

I was speaking about the U.S.

 

[Zildjian]

Actually, it kinda is.

But ok...

I retract my statement. (to avoid looking like an idiot).

We're looking how many 'black' guys vote despite the irrelevancy of who and/or what they vote for.

 

[brian1052000]

i think black guys are more interested in white guys...because white men "seem" more cultured. black guys tend to stick to what they know. never thinking outside the box.

 

[theblackajah]

Oh gods above, just wait until chimere gets a whiff of this thread.

"RACIST! RACISSSSSTS!"

 

[chimere]

yeah theblackajah, there is no such thing as racism in the gay world, and asian men are more inherently inferior.

actually, anything non-white is inferior to the all-superior white male. get ready for it you asian bottom boi

 

[AngelFromAbove]

Umm...I don't think this makes any sense.

You know, I was thinking the same thing when I read his post.

 

[BabiGayPimp]

Of course, I have my little flavor of the month fixations that come and go, but normed over the course of a typical year, my tastes run the whole gamut. I'm too much of a sensualist to be stuck on one race.

It's no surprise to me that white boys, once again, rise to the top of the food chain, favored it seems by every race. I am curious to know how this information affects the sensibilites of those non-whites who prefer whites?

To know that you may not have the right "currency" to purchase the "merchandise" of your choice, with white skin as the coin of the realm?

 

[youngnihilist]

Im just as fed up with this race superficial bullshit as the next person. its far from only among gays and its with straights too and of course defies sexuality, it extends to economics language culture the list goes on

but here is another perspective

not 50 years ago, barely anybody had interracial relations, gay or straight.

people always had sex within their race with the exception of some taboo situations (i.e. possible slave/master sex, war/travel)

while whites are still preferred by most we live in a much more multicultural gay world than the 60s 70s and 80s which was ONLY upper class men white men. now if you go to any gay scene in a major city there are all races.

and it seems more and more men are being openminded as time goes on.

so human civilization as we know it has existed for thousands of years. 50 years (when interracial relationships really began to spring up) is practically nothing. i'm not saying discrimination doesn't exist, of course it does, though remember rome wasn't built in a day. things are evolving toward equality, in gay sex, in race relations, in every area of our life.

look at beauty magazines and we see more picture of color. i read a newspaper daily and am starting to see more asian men being represented for example. i also am seeing more buff asian and black guys at abercrombie and hollister, which formerly put minorites in the back rooms.

i grew up in a very white liberal environment and all the white girls were really open to dating other races.

a lot of work to do still - DO NOT GET ME WRONG at all i know and have seen first hand all the experiences described, but keep things in perspective! they are getting better, slowly but surely.

 

[Zildjian]

My ex and I used to talk about this subject frequently. He said that he was not even remotely turned on by African American, Asian or Latino guys.

I am a little less extreme, I like African American and some Latinos, but I have a strong preference to white.

It is reallly sad. Why are we all so sexually racist?

You know, this is an issue that I've taken to heart, because (due to my race as an african american male) it affects me directly.

I believe that the individuals (in the U.S.) who have strong preferences to white European males have so because of the persuasive nature of the media, primarily television. Need not be said, but generally understood, white males are literally "worshipped" as the standards of beauty, "success", etc.

With that said, I enjoy the handful propositions of men outside of my race (mostly very good looking latinos my age) that happen to be open minded about dating, etc.

I don't think this "race" issue is such an issue in Canada or in Europe. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Zildjian]

I've touched on this before in another thread, and based on my experiences...I find it to be true.

Then maybe I should look into making one of these regions a second home.

 

[Zildjian]

I really do disagree with the statement that we our sexual preferences are based on what the media tells us is "the absolute beauty". Hell on MTV you see a lot of African American sex appeal. 50 cent can get me really horny.

I never said the media communicates "absolute" beauty, but I said it does communicate a subtextual message of the "standard" of beauty - meaning it starts with European males (and females) and trinkles down to the other races, with most African Americans near (or at) the bottom. Why? Wide noses, larger heads, big lips, large butts, and relatively darker skin color isn't "attractive". Luckily for me, I don't have to combat most of those "unattractive" features. Cosmetic surgery could correct my larger nose and make my skin lighter (not that's it's really dark to begin with.)

Regarding your statement about MTV - I'm not referring (as part of my argument here) to material that is produced only to cater to a specific audience. 50 Cent (and the countless other rap artists portraying the image of thugs and gangbangers) could never get me horny - ever.

 

[Zildjian]

I've touched on this before in another thread, and based on my experiences...I find it to be true.

Huntneo, could you elaborate more on these 'experiences' that you're referring to? Thanks.

 

[TierraSimms]

I find this whole topic quite perplexing as I'm currently in grad school trying to achieve a Masters' in Psychology. I do feel that the media does give subtle ques to us that "Eurocentric beauty" is the apex of beauty. In recent years, yes there have been the introduction of depictions of other ethnic beauty such as Black, Asian, and Meso-Latino and Indo-Latino beauty. However, this is still greatly foreshadowed by the Eurocentric 'perfection'.

So yes, I do believe this affects many queer men with their selection of who they want to date or bed. Until, we as a nation realize that beauty comes in all shades and pigments then we will be "sexually prejustice".

 

[Zildjian]

I get more play from guys who are from/living in European countries, as opposed to those here. They don't seem to have the hangups on race that so many guys here in America do.

And if the darkness of my skin is ever brought up- they see it as a very beautiful thing, as opposed to some guys here...who think otherwise.

Amazing, Hunt. I'm glad there are guys like that (who unfortunately live very far away).

I had a similiar experience like that with a foreign exchange student back in high school. Simply put, the school is basically seperated racially, with the blacks hanging with the blacks, the whites hanging with the whites, etc. You get the picture, no? (I suppose that's why I was such an odd ball in high school - I didn't fit in any group.)

Anyway, my senior year we had a foreign exchange student names Sebastien, who I really connected to on a level not previously done with the other students I had known for years. He was a good friend of mine. He, unlike most of my peers, wasn't tied to racial boundaries.

 

[FunDude]

I'm not voting, because there isn't an option that suits me best. I'm white, but I don't have any one race that I'm attracted to.. I don't leave out races, I'm equal opportunistic, yet selective in that I do consider how attractive I find the guy, personality, accomplishments, goals, ect.. Race plays no role at all.

Though, I still never had a relationship.. So go figure.

 

[Zildjian]

I think there's a big damn difference in a white guy not finding me attractive in comparison to going out of his way to say...Ewww...I'd never date a nigger.

I hope you've never had to hear something like that personally, Hunt.

 

[BabiGayPimp]

Indeed




To have preferences has nothing to do with racism....it has to do with personal taste, individualism.

Can`t we talk openly about what we like....I`ve thought this thread is about the look, attractiveness....and every taste is different.

but EVERY thread with this topic ends with racism arguments...

These threads often conclude with charges of racism, perhaps, because they mirror real life, where aesthetic leanings often morph into deeply set patterns of exclusion, prejudice and discrimination.

The personal taste explanation is a reasonable one, but it's incomplete. Particularly for those of us who have experienced situations where someone's initial "attraction" was reversed by the sudden realization of the true race or ethnicity of the target.

I don't see how we can have a real discussion about what attracts us, without acknowledging our biases and prejudices, racial and otherwise. Not to say that makes us bad people, simply works in progress.

 

[FunDude]

In so many words...yes.

But they were behind the comfort of their computer screens.

You know the whole internet+ anonymity deal goes... :/

Ouch, thats harsh. I don't think even behind the comfort of a computer screen its right to say those types of things..

Plus, not that I really know you or anything, but I'd say you're attractive. I'm mostly basing this on the avatar picture which I'm assuming is you though.

 

[Zildjian]

Plus, not that I really know you or anything, but I'd say you're attractive. I'm mostly basing this on the avatar picture which I'm assuming is you though.

I second that!