Poll: Obamacare support, Obama approval sink to new lows

[Jack Springer]

While Obama's approval rating dropped to 37% in the latest CBS News poll, the ACA dropped it's lowest approval rating of only 7%.

Only 7% of the American people said to keep Obamacare the same (pretty much the general consensus recently in discussion in CEP), 48% think the law needs to be changed, and 43% think the law needs to be repealed entirely.

Obama's approval rating is now equal to George Bush's approval rating in the fall of 2005 -- also one year after he was re-elected.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57613067/poll-obamacare-support-obama-approval-sink-to-new-lows/

 

[bendted]

Republicans famously "don't believe" in polls, so this poll should be unbelievable as well.

 

[Jack Springer]

However, liberals live by polls so there must be deep depression at the White House tonight.

I can 'see' Obama taking with Lincoln's ghost.

 

[Alnitak]

Only 7% of the American people said to keep Obamacare the same (pretty much the general consensus recently in discussion in CEP), 48% think the law needs to be changed, and 43% think the law needs to be repealed entirely.

That is definitely not the consensus among us, and it wasn't when it passed. The US needs a public option like every other developed country.

It is interesting that more people, including myself, want it changed than repealed entirely, which the Tea Party was willing to risk the credit of our nation for.

 

[maxpowr9]

I think Obama's rating is not its nadir yet.

 

[nycguydowntown]

you guys are against everything because you are anti-american---and just want power---everything you were for has been a disaster and everything you are against has passed the test of time like civil rights, gay rights, SS, Medicare and Medicade---you are useless in the grand scheme of things---always proven wrong--the only thing Obama did was try to help people not loose everything when they get sick and not die due to lack of health care which an independent research has proven in the USA someone dies every 20 minutes from lack of health care---this was a gop plan---in that sense not too good--this will eventually lead to single payer--because useless poor white trash republicans who can't afford health care---don;t want it--they want to go to emergency rooms when their fat asses get sick---so we all pay (socialism)---they don't want to step up to the plate and pay a dime--because the rich get rich and the poor get poorer but these dumb assholes still vote for the gop even though the gop doesn't want to pay them a living wage---it's all a joke---and unless you are willing to shut up and die if you get sick and not have the gov pay for your hospital bill you are a hypocrite.

 

[Kulindahr]

The main reason the ACA needs changed is that it was taken from a right-wing think tank and is designed to funnel profits to the insurance companies. It ignores various possible market-based means to make medical care more affordable and available.

In other words, it's corporatist, not free market.

 

[Jack Springer]

That is definitely not the consensus among us, and it wasn't when it passed. The US needs a public option like every other developed country.

It is interesting that more people, including myself, want it changed than repealed entirely, which the Tea Party was willing to risk the credit of our nation for.

Over and over again in CEP I was told that that the ACA was the law of the land and did not need to be changed.

 

[Jack Springer]

The main reason the ACA needs changed is that it was taken from a right-wing think tank and is designed to funnel profits to the insurance companies. It ignores various possible market-based means to make medical care more affordable and available.

In other words, it's corporatist, not free market.

Your post reminds of another person who said repeatedly "if you like your insurance, you can keep it ... period".

Obama (I hope) has found out that repeating a lie many times doesn't make it the truth.

 

[Alnitak]

Over and over again in CEP I was told that that the ACA was the law of the land and did not need to be changed.

By people who wanted a public option, and no I have not seen a consensus that the ACA was 100% perfect.

Substandard insurance drops was not a matter of policy, but was a policy oversight. You have to remember, that the ACA and its advocates are making a good faith effort to improve public health. It is going to be harder to achieve that with bad blood.

 

[Kulindahr]

Over and over again in CEP I was told that that the ACA was the law of the land and did not need to be changed.

F in reading comprehension. The first part is true, but the second is false -- very few, if any, have claimed nothing needed to be changed; what has been said, that I think you're misrepresenting, is that you don't go changing it until we see it in action and can actually observe what needs fixed. Yet more than a few of us have said from the outset that it missed some very basic measures needed to make the whole medical care scene in the US work better.

 

[Kulindahr]

Your post reminds of another person who said repeatedly "if you like your insurance, you can keep it ... period".

Obama (I hope) has found out that repeating a lie many times doesn't make it the truth.

I suspect you're claiming that it actually wasn't taken from the Heritage Foundation, when that fact of its origin has been thoroughly documented -- so you're just repeating your falsehood.

Or are you asserting that the ACA doesn't ignore market-based means of addressing costs?

Or do you think it's not corporatist?

Or is it that you think it's a free market approach?


Actually, I suspect it's that you aren't actually reading and thinking, just skimming and throwing out a knee-jerk response.

 

[Rolyo85]

Over and over again in CEP I was told that that the ACA was the law of the land and did not need to be changed.

The latter is a bold faced lie and has been reported. Absolutely nobody here has claimed the law is perfect and doesn't need changing. Perhaps you need to see someone about this inability to face reality...

 

[Rolyo85]

Your post reminds of another person who said repeatedly "if you like your insurance, you can keep it ... period".

Obama (I hope) has found out that repeating a lie many times doesn't make it the truth.

If he has, that would put him a step ahead of you then.

When will you compute that nobody here is impressed enough with this particular "lie" of Obama's to actually bother arguing with you over it?

 

[Jack Springer]

The latter is a bold faced lie and has been reported. Absolutely nobody here has claimed the law is perfect and doesn't need changing. Perhaps you need to see someone about this inability to face reality...

Many people here said that the law was fine the way it was and didn't agree that the mandated purchase should be changed or eliminated.

 

[Jack Springer]

CNN has Obama in his lowest approval rating ever.

NSA spying, IRS treatment of conservative groups has grown his disapproval rating.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/21/obama-approval-rating-sinks-to-new-low-in-cnn-poll/

Expect more wag-the-dog scenarios to change the subject from the Obamacare disaster.

 

[Rolyo85]

CNN has Obama in his lowest approval rating ever.

NSA spying, IRS treatment of conservative groups has grown his disapproval rating.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/21/obama-approval-rating-sinks-to-new-low-in-cnn-poll/

Expect more wag-the-dog scenarios to change the subject from the Obamacare disaster.

I am sure he cares deeply, now that he is about to run for reelection... oh wait.

But I understand. You lost everything. Your party got nothing. Again and again. All you have is a wagging finger and an "I told you so!" Except, nobody is interested.

 

[Jack Springer]

^^^

You seem to be pretty interested. Stop responding if you have nothing to say.

 

[Kulindahr]

^^^

You seem to be pretty interested. Stop responding if you have nothing to say.

Stop saying nothing, and maybe he won't respond.

 

[Rolyo85]

^^^

You seem to be pretty interested. Stop responding if you have nothing to say.

Why should I? It doesn't seem to be stopping you.