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Posh chaps

I get accused of being posh sometimes. I don't think it does me any favours. The flavour of the month seems to be for Chavs, neds and scallies rather than posh people - lol

I'm not really posh at all, but rather my mother used to smack me across the back of the head if I used any slang glasweigen or scots words.
 
Not necessarily. But some basic touch of class does not really hurt either.

SC
 
Off topic - what's the difference between a chav, a ned and a scally? Or are they interchangeable terms, for all intents and purposes?

Even further off-topic, a local talk-radio station explained the term "Chav" this morning - the first time I have heard it spoken of in .za.

Anyway...

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Not really; a scally is a young man, originally from Liverpool, bit street wise, working class, from poor parentage. Used to be used only of Liverpool. buit some gay studios use the term for any young man; as in Scally Boy Orgy or Scally Boy Wankers. Chav is a recent expression, picked up from schoolchildren slang, meaning a young person of working class background, dressing in track-suit bottoms and hoodies, living in a Council Estate; nearest thing for US equivalent would be trailer trash.
In UK we don't have distinctions of jock/dude, except what has been picked up from US TV. What is a dude, these days?
 
weydowner said:
Not really; a scally is a young man, originally from Liverpool, bit street wise, working class, from poor parentage. Used to be used only of Liverpool. buit some gay studios use the term for any young man; as in Scally Boy Orgy or Scally Boy Wankers. Chav is a recent expression, picked up from schoolchildren slang, meaning a young person of working class background, dressing in track-suit bottoms and hoodies, living in a Council Estate; nearest thing for US equivalent would be trailer trash.
In UK we don't have distinctions of jock/dude, except what has been picked up from US TV. What is a dude, these days?
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a dude is just some young guy up to age 25 or so (other input appreciated here). and i would think that dude is similar to bloke.

and i would probably refer to the guys that you are calling scally as white trash also. the track suite and hoodie are kind of an enigma to me. i see that around in california, but these suits are from pricey designers...like puma and others, and since working out is big here, i think its meant to be more interpreted as a status sympol and such.

somebody else PLEASE comment on this.

jock is a guy that is heavy into sports, and it shows in his lean muscular body. and he is the "sportsman" type and wears sportsman clothes and even sports the attitude. some could call it "dumb and rough".
 
The word ned is an acronym for non educated delinquent. It's used in Scotland a lot. The thing is that these terms are all colloquial and so the term used varies from region to region just like accents. They all denote the same above mentioned demographic, young working class males who wear track suits and are generally pretty slim and fit - hence the attraction for Gay porn.

The word Chav is used in London and the southeast and because most of the UK media us based there it has become the default term used although the regional terms still exist.
 
this wearing of track suit bottoms/trainers/jackets with hoods is a young-person-peer-group teenage fashion thing, maybe everywhere. Doesn't really matter if the shoes are £100 or the make is expensive; if it is fashionable on the street, you,d get it somehow. I think the exclusive Berberry has lost its cachet because it has become a byword for chav, eg.
do you have council estates in US? or subsided housing, is it called. or federal.
So much separates the 2 countries, still. But in UK, the 3 terms denote a blue-collar largely urban group of youths. If you have parents who are stock-brokers or doctors or managers of some type, you are not a chav, unless you pretend, to keep your street-cred.
Thanks to Scottishlad; I didn't know that - have never heard the term ned. Down here in the south-east.
This label thing is quite recent; as gay people were the 1st to adopt calvin kleins and ralph laurens, so you can spot someone similar to you if you see them wearing nike or doc martens or D & G. trivial, but human. hmmmph
 
^^ oh hell yes we have subsidized housing, in many regions, from mandatory units in certain appartment complexes, to a community of trailers (hence trailer trash) and some are well fed with their "government corn" and their "government cheese". iv heard government cheese is the best, but i have yet to try it. the track suits are popular, and many you can tell are on the cheap end. but hey, im not trash, but i also am not dumb enough to pay a fortune for a track suite, and i occasionally wear the sports gear out and about because it does look good, and it is comfortable. so i cant exactly say it is exclusive to a certain group here because many groups wear them. weather you are a dude or a jock, trailer trash, white trash, or a scum bag.
 
Not really exclusive to any one sub-group over here either; i suppose it is a verbal short-cut as to what this class-ridden society thinks you are, if that makes sense. Sort of , oh, he wears Harris Tweed therefore he is upper class, or he bought it from a charity shop. lol.
I suppose, over the last generation labels have become ridiculously important in self-image. One difference over here might be as soon as you open your mouth in UK you are PLACED in the social hierarchy, both as to your "class" as well as which part of the country you are from. Less so now than in the past, but still exists. So over here, despite the Americanisation (?) these days, money plays a much less important part of social class than in, I think, US.
Am using too many generalisations here; it is a part of conversation that has many potential bear-traps.
In a way, these sub-groups are as much against ( - older generation, professionalism, middle-class-hood etc) as they are for (peer groups, freedom, raising a family and becoming suburnan and boring). I think.
You wouldn't go to a bar wearing a tie, or leather, or disco-shorts etc, unless you wanted to make a statement about yourself, to other people.
 
At uni, loads of guys in my class are from outside scotland so my lecturer decided to explain some terms. Was quite funny.
Ned = wearing a tracksuit, speaking in high voice, knife in pocket. Common words "geez yer phone ya cunt"
Jakey - differs from Ned. Jakey is drugged up, holding his bottle of buckfast. Common words: "big issue mate? spare any change?"
Chav - the english word for ned but might have some degree of normality
All of which are always working class, unless some middle class boys (posh) think its funny to act like neds - never a good impersonation.

I dont agree with you Scottishlad, i think girls tend to go for middle class lads or lads that are working class but try to act middle class. Guys who wear a collar and generally look after themselves, speak well, relatively confident when talking in groups etc generally get more lucky. Posh guys also more likely to do more posh sports like rugby, sailing, cricket which also gets girls attention (can i just say here that cricket differs from croquet and that NOBODY ever plays croquet no matter what the media might imply about the UK).
 
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