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Preserving muscle doing cardio

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Hi again

In this month's Attitude (a UK magazine for gay men), there's an interview with actor Matt Kennard, mainly about his exercise routine. In it, he says that, when doing cardio, he keeps his heart rate down below 125 BPM so that he burns off fat, not muscle.

I've never heard of this tactic before - do any of you guys do this, or know anything about it? Does it work? Do you know of any other 'tricks' to help preserve muscle if you're losing weight by diet and exercise?

Any advice at all is always welcomed!

Rob
 
A typical resting healthy heart beat per minute is between 60 and 80. Super athletes such as Lance Armstrong managed 32 BPM. Many advanced athletes manage below 50 BPM.

I am rather perplexed by your reference to Matt Kennard keeping his BPM below 125. This number would appear very high. Perhaps the figure has been misread, or misprinted? Please clarify.

Back to the essential guts of your question.

Cardio is not only important for burning off fat, but also important for maintaining the body's cardio-vascular health. Healthy lungs enable the lifter to cope more ably with increasing weight loads.

In my experience (very many years, weight training) cardio exercises have little impact on muscle wastage, providing you are feeding your body with sufficient quality proteins, and sufficient quantities of water to nourish your muscles.
 
No, it's not a misprint. I think he was talking about the BPM displayed on heart rate monitors. I use one also, and resting it displays 60-80, then it goes up as you exercise. Normally, when I'm doing hard cardio it's between 125 and 145. I have got it to go up to 160. I don't know if we're using different systems of measurement, but <125 is plausible.

Just do a quick search on Google for "heart rate monitors" - loads of sites come up saying the same thing!
 
No, it's not a misprint. I think he was talking about the BPM displayed on heart rate monitors. I use one also, and resting it displays 60-80, then it goes up as you exercise. Normally, when I'm doing hard cardio it's between 125 and 145. I have got it to go up to 160. I don't know if we're using different systems of measurement, but <125 is plausible.

Just do a quick search on Google for "heart rate monitors" - loads of sites come up saying the same thing!

Thank you, for your clarification. I was assuming that the figure of 125 was at rest.
 
Hi again

In this month's Attitude (a UK magazine for gay men), there's an interview with actor Matt Kennard, mainly about his exercise routine. In it, he says that, when doing cardio, he keeps his heart rate down below 125 BPM so that he burns off fat, not muscle.

I've never heard of this tactic before - do any of you guys do this, or know anything about it? Does it work? Do you know of any other 'tricks' to help preserve muscle if you're losing weight by diet and exercise?

Any advice at all is always welcomed!

Rob
I've heard something like this a few times over the years from trainers and others that inhabit fitness clubs. Another theory that circulates is that you burn more efficiently in the second half hour of exercise.

I don't put much stock in either one. If there is a difference, I don't expect it to be a dramatic one. The bottom line is that any kind of exercise is good... but then again I am bound to think this way, given that my main focus is cardio for my heart, lungs and circulation and improving (or maintaining) my looks is just a side benefit.
 
Yes, but I, personally, have quite a few pounds of fat to lose. I'm an endomorph/mesomorph - my Mother is quite obese, and my father, though little, is a typical mesomorph who builds muscle easily.

So, I've inherited both - I put on muscle easily, but I also put on fat easily. I'm actually fatter than I look - there's a lot of internal fat (thanks, Mom). So, I'll never be skinny, always quite muscular, so burning fat without losing muscle is my main concern.

That's why assessing any tips like this are quite crucial for me. It's nothing to do with my fitness, per se (I'm in a wheelchair, so I'm not going to be running round the block) - it's just to stop me looking terrible.
 
Are you already doing a fitness program and it's not working out for you (in which case it would be helpful if you could describe it more) or are you just now planning to start?

As to your original question about burning muscle, I don't think you have anything to worry about either way. I have a similar build in terms of putting on muscle easily and fat (unfortunately). Any muscles that you are pushing doing an intense heart thumping aerobic workout are not going to waste away. It's probably a moot point anyways, because if you can't get your legs in the game then I would be really surprised if you could sustain an 85% max BPM for an extended workout (sorry if that sounds insensitive).

With the fact that you are overweight and build muscle easily, I stand by my original statement: any exercising you do is going to be good. The more intense the better. You can get into more finesse once you're closer to your goal.

It would be easier to give you suggestions if you could provide us with more information about yourself, such as your age, stats, eating habits, meds and any limitations imposed by the wheelchair.
 
My workout works pretty well, actually - I just had a series of unfortunate accidents, and I missed out on 2 months training! I felt fat before, but without exercising for so long, I feel like a blimp!

Anyway, here's my routine:

"I try to wake up at 7:30, have plenty of cold water with a fat burner (I currently use Thermobol from Maximuscle) then do 617 kcal worth (takes me between 45 and 90 minutes) on my exercise on my exercise bike.

Although I'm a wheelchair user, I don't have a spinal cord injury at all, so all my limbs work, giving me the ability to use this ([ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0013G0EOW/ref=oss_product"]Golds Gym Mini Bike: Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Leisure[/ame]) type of exercise bike. Depending on an individual's possible range of movement, there's everything from powered leg-exercisers, hand cycles, or even just wheeling yourself around in a wheelchair. Very rarely does disability make any kind of cardiovascular exercise impossible!

I also use a heart-rate monitor strap (HRM) to measure how many calories I burn, as I find the calories display on most exercise equipment is based on what the average, able-bodied man burns, and aren't good indicators for how many calories I have burnt. That's just me, though. I've always had to measure everything, use empirical data - if you're not like that, just base exercise sessions, not on the number of calories to burn, but the length of time (e.g. I'm going to spend 30mins doing this).

I then have my breakfast which normally consists of porridge with a spoonful of Nutella (only 80 kcal for a 15 gram tablespoon - which is quite a lot of Nutella!) mixed in to sweeten it up, a whey protein shake (I currently use the vanilla flavor variety of MyProtein's Total Protein XS). I also have a mug of green tea as most sports nutrition companies charge a lot more for a little green tea extract added to their products (green tea is a good thermogen), and is only £1-2 from any major supermarket for a box of 20 tea bags! One more Thermobol, as well.

Two hours later (you're meant to consume some protein every 2hrs for it to stay as active as possible, and, therefore, burn the most calories), I have some more whey protein, then do some resistance work (either a variety of sit-ups to work my stomach muscles, or press-ups/dumbell exercises to work my shoulders and upper arms). I do one of the two muscle groups one day, then the other the next day, giving my muscles time to recover and grow before being worked again.

Again, two hours later, I have lunch - normally just a seasoned chicken breast, some salad, my last Thermobol of the day, and, yes, more green tea.

Two hours later, more whey protein, and, after that, another cardio session (same as I do before breakfast).

Two more hours, and another protein shake. Two hours after that, dinner (chicken breast, seasoned, and some vegetables on the side). Then some more green tea.

Two hours after dinner, another protein shake, then a slow-release protein drink before bed (casein, or MyProtein's Bedtime Extreme, which I use).

With this diet, I consume 1,778 kcal (plus vegetables, which vary in calorific value, and so cannot be measured easily). This leaves plenty of room for some extra 'treats', and still lose weight. Plus, this includes 1,234 kcal of aerobic exercise. Anaerobic exercise (i.e. resistance training) burns calories mainly by increasing the size of your muscles, thus increasing the number of calories required to 'maintain' them, raising your base metabolic rate, and are, therefore, (also) not easily quantifiable. They also markedly improve your appearance!

Most of this I've based partly on Hugo Rivera's Transformation Guide (www.bodybuilding.com/fun/hugo_newyear2.htm), partly on Nick Scott's advice on Nickfitness.com, Zeb Atlas' régime (www.myspace.com/big_tommygunz), Rosita Evans' book 'Rosie's Armchair Exercises'
(www.amazon.co.uk/Rosies-Armchair-Ex...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271262981&sr=8-1), and the advice of too many doctors and physiotherapists to name...

I'm not overly strict and inflexible with this - if I wake up one morning and (a) certain muscle(s) is/are sore, I just miss out the exercises that use those muscles until they feel better."

(I've just copied this from my FB page, so I apologize for not going through it and tailoring to my original post. There should be everything there, though, anyway...)
 
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