Pride? Gay men have nothing to be proud of!

[lovelost]

A rant as ever there was one.

So I broke up with my boyfriend earlier this week. Yes, it's been coming for a while. He says he loves me less. Yes, he has no idea where we are going in the future in terms of our relationship.

I've been drinking every night for the last ten days or so. I can't remember a few of them. I'm hitting the vodka tonight. Variety is the spice of life and all that.

And there is London Pride tomorrow and I thought, why the hell should we be proud? All gay men have become are animals bent on having sex with as many people as possible without any emotion at all and at best with an animalistic degrading manner that is no better than the common dog.

They are incapable of having any long term relationships whatsoever that include monogamy and emotion and love that could just last.

They are programmed to try and fit in with everyone around them and be as mean as f*ck towards anyone who doesn't seem to fit in with the norm.

But, look, I'm one of them in the last instance. I shall be there tomorrow, putting on my happy face and drinking even more with the rest of them. After all, being alone and dying alone is far worse. Isn't it?

 

[igeorge25]

I want to say 'that's the worst perspective evAr' but we all go through our rough patches. honestly, I hope you come out of yours safely.

you have to remember that gay guys are just as varied as straight guys - some want sex and others don't. personally speaking, I'm still a virgin because I'm waiting for the right long-term relationship to come along. love comes way before sex. you'll realize that other people have that train of thought too, and hopefully one will come your way soon enough.

keep your chin up, don't get too piss drunk, and have some fun.

- George

 

[j0rdan]

What're you Talking About?! Gay Guys have TONNES to be Proud OF!
-> Like Baggin the next 'Hot' guy and the guy after that; having innumerable, frivalous sexual relations with multiple and random partners; proudly showing off to peers that they're 'in a relationship' (albeit for 2 days ); not acknowledging 'fuglies', much less speaking to one - heaven forbid they actually be considered human at all

Tonnes of stuff to have soooo much PRIDE about

LoL

On a serious note, it's rather disturbing on the amount of dirtbags out there that're gay in relation to the amount of decent ones people actually meet.

Anywho, pucker up lovelost - things will be better before you know it

- Jordan

A rant as ever there was one.

So I broke up with my boyfriend earlier this week. Yes, it's been coming for a while. He says he loves me less. Yes, he has no idea where we are going in the future in terms of our relationship.

I've been drinking every night for the last ten days or so. I can't remember a few of them. I'm hitting the vodka tonight. Variety is the spice of life and all that.

And there is London Pride tomorrow and I thought, why the hell should we be proud? All gay men have become are animals bent on having sex with as many people as possible without any emotion at all and at best with an animalistic degrading manner that is no better than the common dog.

They are incapable of having any long term relationships whatsoever that include monogamy and emotion and love that could just last.

They are programmed to try and fit in with everyone around them and be as mean as f*ck towards anyone who doesn't seem to fit in with the norm.

But, look, I'm one of them in the last instance. I shall be there tomorrow, putting on my happy face and drinking even more with the rest of them. After all, being alone and dying alone is far worse. Isn't it?

 

[luminum]

I know you're hurt, so we both know that this is only a rant. Just give yourself time to calm down and heal.

 

[jetsonboy]

I am not only very proud of my sexuality and who I am but also very happy in my long-term relationship. I am sorry you are bitter and reeling over your break-up, but generalizing your feelings into such negative statements is rather childish of you. There are better ways to ease the pain you are going through than by drinking yourself into a stupor. And if you feel offended by my reply to your post, well, you asked for it!

 

[j0rdan]

I am not only very proud of my sexuality and who I am but also very happy in my long-term relationship. I am sorry you are bitter and reeling over your break-up, but generalizing your feelings into such negative statements is rather childish of you. There are better ways to ease the pain you are going through than by drinking yourself into a stupor. And if you feel offended by my reply to your post, well, you asked for it!

Well, that's certainly a Very supportive thing to say

Everyone! Please remember to make note on the 'type' of support jetsonboy will be looking for in the future if he needs any

On the topic of 'negative statements'; I take it this is another case of 'do what I say, and not what I do' - Fancy that!

 

[pausanias_usa]

Actually he may be doing you a favor -- if it's not right for both of you, it's not right.

And before you say all gays should not have show a little in yourself!

Don't drink away your troubles; that only adds to them.

Use this time to yourself to figure out what you want -- and how you are going to fit your own self into that image.

 

[G-Lexington]

I'm 37.
I've had sex with a total of three guys.
My boyfriend and I are celebrating our ninth anniversary next week.
We're both monogamous.
I'm always there for my friends when they need someone to talk to.
I've never been drunk. Ever.

...sleep it off. And skip tomorrow. You'll need a day to dry out your body and your thoughts.

Lex

 

[jetsonboy]

Well, that's certainly a Very supportive thing to say

Everyone! Please remember to make note on the 'type' of support jetsonboy will be looking for in the future if he needs any

On the topic of 'negative statements'; I take it this is another case of 'do what I say, and not what I do' - Fancy that!

It could have been worse. I could have just said "GROW UP!" I happen to have taken the statement "Gay men have nothing to be proud of!" personally simply because I am a proud gay man, and a happy one at that. When someone chooses a title like that for a thread, it can come off the wrong way. Gay men do NOT need any more putting down or negative headlines. Moreover, I do not appreciate your invitation to the JUB community to boycott future support for me or any other fellow Jubbers. I know how it feels to be dumped and have had my share of disappointments in life, but I have never and will never project my issues onto others. Posting a rant about his situation without making a negative generalizing statement about gay men would have certainly much more readily elicited my compassion and offer of support.

 

[j0rdan]

It could have been worse. I could have just said "GROW UP!" I happen to have taken the statement "Gay men have nothing to be proud of!" personally simply because I am a proud gay man, and a happy one at that. When someone chooses a title like that for a thread, it can come off the wrong way. Gay men do NOT need any more putting down or negative headlines. Moreover, I do not appreciate your invitation to the JUB community to boycott future support for me or any other fellow Jubbers. I know how it feels to be dumped and have had my share of disappointments in life, but I have never and will never project my issues onto others. Posting a rant about his situation without making a negative generalizing statement about gay men would have certainly much more readily elicited my compassion and offer of support.

Worse? Gee..lucky lovelost

In regards to 'boycotting support for you..' - I frankly don't see where I wrote any of that; I did however, bring to light your 'idea' of support - and after all, this IS a 'SUPPORT' forum is it not?

 

[jetsonboy]

First, let's see: "Everyone! Please remember to make note on the 'type' of support jetsonboy will be looking for in the future if he needs any".

Perhaps I misinterpreted your statement??

Second, since you bring up the subject of JUB being a support forum, I daresay not necessarily. This is a site dedicated to the entertainment of gay men, which happens to include forums for our community, in which we happen to find much support from many of its members, including yours truly. My issue with lovelost's post is its title, and I wonder if there is anyone else in this community who felt the same way I did when I first read it. Words are powerful indeed.

 

[pausanias_usa]

To the two posters above: sometimes support means a shoulder to cry on; other times it means a well-intentioned slap to the face.

I've had both, those times I needed them! I'm glad for the original poster that he got both; two people went out of their way to administer two different methods.

Now THAT's support 8').

 

[jetsonboy]

YAY! Thanks for your support and understanding, pausanias!

 

[racer2438]

someone here is looking for PITTY.

you are so wrong, sounds like your blaming everyone for some errors that happened to you.

your statement that there is no monog and love and crap like that is just BS.

my b/f and I have been together for 24 years!!![B

so dont tell me it cant be done.

it takes two to make it work YES I SAID WORK.

there may have been things that went wrong with yours, but you were there and you should have seen signs of things not going right.

dont use the cheap excuse that all us gays cant do LTR


get on your feet , once step at a time and go forward, learn from errors , dont look back as you have already been there and cant change it so why sit there and snivel and put others down.

your a man, be a man and set your sights and new beginnings and go forward.

 

[luminum]

Agreed. Being curt and honest can be just as necessary for support than being saccharine. What more can we say to lovelost's post when we all can see that he's speaking out of hurt and not out of true opinion?

 

[bluedragon4]

Why is anyone taking this serious?! The real issue is he's bitter and angry. He's like one of those woman who says all men are dogs. But being bitter and drunk is nothing to be proud of. Way to let life not beat you down.

 

[lovelost]

I appreciate all the responses here. I do.

I just wish I could meet some guys who could prove me wrong besides a few guys on a different continent online who make up an extremely small percentage of the gay community.

Up until now, I have everything to support my theory out of all of my friends, my personal experiences since coming out years ago and so on...

And that's both the LTR and the random shag statements. I am sorry if I was blunt in the way I expressed myself but I have nothing on a personal experience/level to disprove anything I've said. At all!

 

[rareboy]

Oh for heaven's sakes. Sober up and stop wallowing for a minute. You seem to be proud enough that you've been on a bender to deal with your pain, but all I see is an excuse for you to justify drinking.

Of course breaking up is painful and if it involves infidelity...it can be even worse.

Having said that, if it is just a boyfriend relationship and does not involve a mortgage, I think you are setting your expectations way too high and if you are prone to hard drinking and abusive rants, it might not be the loving that is driving your boyfriends away.

After 25 years with the same guy, I can safely say that you are so dead wrong about the nature of the gay male. Gay or straight, there are just some guys that can't settle. Gay or straight, there are guys that mate for life.

Give your head a shake and adjust your attitude or you are heading for a lonely and bitter life.

 

[jetsonboy]

I appreciate all the responses here. I do.

I just wish I could meet some guys who could prove me wrong besides a few guys on a different continent online who make up an extremely small percentage of the gay community.

Up until now, I have everything to support my theory out of all of my friends, my personal experiences since coming out years ago and so on...

And that's both the LTR and the random shag statements. I am sorry if I was blunt in the way I expressed myself but I have nothing on a personal experience/level to disprove anything I've said. At all!

On behalf of all Jubbers, I humbly accept your apology and offer you my best wishes for happiness and lasting love in your life. You need to look deep within yourself and make sure that everything is OK with how you feel about being gay and how you are doing in your life in general. Drinking your pain away is not the healthy approach to dealing with your disappointments. Yes, you will find many gay men who will behave irresponsibly but that might be because they have issues they need to solve in their own lives, and many of them are caused by their social environment and upbringing. Finding lasting, meaningful love is difficult for both straight and gay people, and you must start by loving and taking care of yourself first, because then others will see your worth and that you are aware of it; I am certain you have a lot to offer to a deserving, equally-minded individual. You must keep your faith in humanity no matter what. There are too many examples of the opposite in this world right now. Develop meaningful friendships first. Go out there and make friends, because some day they will introduce you to the love of your life. In the process, please enjoy yourself responsibly as much as possible.