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Proof of a Neo-Racist Republican Party?

This is exactly what we're talking about. You take a single opinion piece from a newspaper (which actually complains that psychology isn't scientific enough!) and you use that one opinion to try and deny an entire field of science!

Thank you for helping to prove the point. The irony is just so delicious!






I might suggest that you read the book, Jackoroe, but it's full of facts. It wouldn't appeal to you.


The "opinion" had you bother to read it, was proffered by an actual scientist, and an editor of a scientific publication.

Alex B. Berezow is the editor of RealClearScience.com, where this piece originally appeared. He has a doctorate in microbiology.

Now let's see who wrote the tome you put so much stock in.

Bestselling author Chris Mooney uses cutting-edge research to explain the psychology

So, he doesn't even claim to be a scientist. Rather someone who can explain the pseudo-science of psychology. Just what are Mr. Money's credentials?

Mooney was born in Mesa, Arizona, and grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana. He received his B.A. in English from Yale University in 1999, and has been a member of the board of the American Geophysical Union since November 2010.

Mr. Mooney has a BA in English and lists his occupation as journalist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Mooney_(journalist)

So to review. We should discard the authoritative opinion given by an expert in the field of science and accept the writings of a journalist who possesses no academic credential on the very subject he's chosen to write about as Gospel truth.

Has everybody on the left taken leave of their senses?
 
And how did this thread get to be a purse fight over psychology versus Racism in the Republican Party?
 
The "opinion" had you bother to read it, was proffered by an actual scientist, and an editor of a scientific publication.

The piece you have linked is part of the Los Angeles Times' "Blowback" series of opinion articles. "Blowback" is a place for readers of the L.A. Times to make their opinions heard. The L.A. Times describes it as "a cross between an Op-Ed and a letter to the editor."

The opinion of the psychologist in question (that psychology is not scientific enough, which happens to be true) does not negate the opinions of the hundreds of thousands of psychologists and other scientists out there who know that psychology is, in fact, a science. It is rather incredible to me that you believe you can wipe out a hundred years of research and an entire field of science on the basis of a single letter to the editor of the L.A. Times!

This is exactly what we're talking about. You Republicans can deny whole fields of study on the basis of a single letter to the editor of a newspaper. You create your own universes in which global climate change is a conspiracy of all the world's climate scientists. In which evolution is not biology. And in which psychology is not science. You accept nonsense as fact when the nonsense conforms better to your party's ideology. You do not live in a world of facts, you live in a world of party dogma. When that dogma is contradicted by truth, then it is necessary to deny the truth.


Now let's see who wrote the tome you put so much stock in.

So, he doesn't even claim to be a scientist. Rather someone who can explain the pseudo-science of psychology. Just what are Mr. Money's credentials?

Mr. Mooney has a BA in English and lists his occupation as journalist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Mooney_(journalist)


It is perfectly acceptable for a non-scientist to summarize the findings of scientists. The editor of Scientific American, Mariette DiChristina, is a journalist by training. The editor-in-chief of Popular Science, Jacob Ward, describes himself as a "television journalist." The managing editor of The Discovery Channel, Ted Koppel, is also a "television journalist." None of these people have any training in science whatsoever. But that does not mean that they cannot describe for us the findings of science.

Scientists are trained in science, not English. That's why most scientific reporting is done by English majors, not scientists. Indeed, that's why most writing/reporting of every type (politics, entertainment, science, business, travel, etc.) is done by English majors. Not politicians, entertainers, scientists, businessmen, travelers, etc.


So to review. We should discard the authoritative opinion given by an expert in the field of science and accept the writings of a journalist who possesses no academic credential on the very subject he's chosen to write about as Gospel truth.

No. To review, we should accept the opinions of the overwhelming majority of experts in the field, not the opinion of one person as the "gospel truth."

This is the problem with the right. You do not accept evidence, reason, or scholarship. You cling to single opinions of single individuals as dogmatic and unarguable - even when that opinion is extreme and not shared by anyone else in the field. The criteria for acceptance is not how well an idea is regarded by the scientific community. It is how well that idea molds itself to Republican Party ideology. That's religion, not science.


Has everybody on the left taken leave of their senses?
I would ask if everybody on the right had taken leave of their senses, but I already know the answer to that. Sense has not been valuable to you people since ~1980.
 
And how did this thread get to be a purse fight over psychology versus Racism in the Republican Party?

It's because psychology is helping to explain the racism (and general illogic) within the Republican Party.

Therefore, psychology has to be discredited. Illogically, as it happens.
 
And how did this thread get to be a purse fight over psychology versus Racism in the Republican Party?

Obfuscation of the original point. It is all republicans can do to cover their disgusting bias against so many groups, latinos, gays, blacks, women.... the hates just keep coming!
 
It's because psychology is helping to explain the racism (and general illogic) within the Republican Party.

Therefore, psychology has to be discredited. Illogically, as it happens.

I was going to take on the concept that psychology has been empirically proven and several methods employ the scientific method but hey it isn't a science cause Jack says so.... lol. Next he will be saying global warming isn't real or perhaps we just popped into existence at the behest of a angry jealous god.

Jack to keep it interesting could you please tell your fairly tales in the fashion of Grimm?
 
And how did this thread get to be a purse fight over psychology versus Racism in the Republican Party?

You have to follow the logic of reading all the posts.

I'm sure there's a scientist out there somewhere that would write a book where he promotes the theory that democrats don't follow logic.

The racist thing has really gotten old -- time to move on.

I almost miss the nazi name calling.
 
How is the racist thingy getting old? You better embrace it if you embrace that party because as America gets diverse the republican party gets whiter and whiter so the only place for racist to go is republican.

Of course for a party that hates gays, hates women, hates Hispanics and says that helping black people is racism what would you expect?
 
How is the racist thingy getting old? You better embrace it if you embrace that party because as America gets diverse the republican party gets whiter and whiter so the only place for racist to go is republican.

Of course for a party that hates gays, hates women, hates Hispanics and says that helping black people is racism what would you expect?

Racism is a two-way street honey. To say that racism only belongs to "whites" is narrow-minded at best. Whites tend to be the most vocal and overt about their racism though.
 
This man was photographed at a Romney campaign rally in Lancaster, Ohio on October 12, 2012.

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Let's go back to this picture for a moment. You've posted this. Let's agree that this is an unretouched photo, OK? Let's also agree that this man was at a political event and it doesn't really matter where, for Romney. Fair enough?

Now answer me a very simple question. If you don't know, that's fine, just say so. Ready?

What's the name of the man wearing the shirt in the photo?
 
Racism is a two-way street honey. To say that racism only belongs to "whites" is narrow-minded at best. Whites tend to be the most vocal and overt about their racism though.
Nonsense. Listen to Farakhan, Sharpton, Jessie Jackson, and your own leaders spiritual leader, Rev Wright, and you part itself. The Wall Street Reform Act enacted by the Democrat Crongress And signed by Obama requires banks and their suppliers to hire minorities and women " to the maximum extent possible". It is esentially illegal for them to hire white men. Yours is the racist party.
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This is exactly what we're talking about. You take a single opinion piece from a newspaper (which actually complains that psychology isn't scientific enough!) and you use that one opinion to try and deny an entire field of science!

Thank you for helping to prove the point. The irony is just so delicious!


I might suggest that you read the book, Jackoroe, but it's full of facts. It wouldn't appeal to you.

Psychology now is like astronomy before Galileo: they know they're looking at things, but are still developing the instruments to measure and analyze. So yes, it's a science; saying it isn't is foolish. It merely lacks the tools yet to quantify and measure and absorb data into patterns of predictability. But even so, it is incredibly useful and potent.
 
The "opinion" had you bother to read it, was proffered by an actual scientist, and an editor of a scientific publication.

. . . .

So to review. We should discard the authoritative opinion given by an expert in the field of science and accept the writings of a journalist who possesses no academic credential on the very subject he's chosen to write about as Gospel truth.

Has everybody on the left taken leave of their senses?

Microbiologists have a tendency to degrade anything that has anything to do with humans that wasn't done by other microbiologists, so a microbiologist's opinion is hardly one I'd turn to for an evaluation of psychology. In reality, the psychologist is struggling with a realm of complexity on a level that makes what a microbiologist does look like LEGOs.

The prejudice is in fact very similar to that of racism....
 
Microbiologists have a tendency to degrade anything that has anything to do with humans that wasn't done by other microbiologists

Having worked rather extensively in microbiology, I object to your generalization of the members of that profession. Micro has everything to do with the scientific method – particularly as it relates to research. OTOH, I know nothing of this particular microbiologist’s credentials that may qualify him to render an opinion about psychology. And FWIW, I personally regard psychology as a science.
 
Having worked rather extensively in microbiology, I object to your generalization of the members of that profession. Micro has everything to do with the scientific method – particularly as it relates to research. OTOH, I know nothing of this particular microbiologist’s credentials that may qualify him to render an opinion about psychology. And FWIW, I personally regard psychology as a science.

That's not in dispute -- it's the attitude toward non-micros, psychology in particular.
 
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