Proofs for the existence of God

[bankside]

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"Deities" that are obviously just parts of the universe, e.g. your latter two above, have no claim to being considered a/the supreme being. Any actual Supreme Being has to be Creator of all.

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"Deities" that are obviously just parts of the universe, e.g. your latter two above, have no claim to being considered a/the supreme being. Any actual Supreme Being has to be Creator of all.

You are imagining or wishing for your statement to be obvious.

 

[Nemothepanda]

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"Deities" that are obviously just parts of the universe, e.g. your latter two above, have no claim to being considered a/the supreme being. Any actual Supreme Being has to be Creator of all.

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"Deities" that are obviously just parts of the universe, e.g. your latter two above, have no claim to being considered a/the supreme being. Any actual Supreme Being has to be Creator of all.

Uhh...Zeus and the Jade Emperor are the heads of their respective pantheons, as is Amaterasu; they're the holiest, purist, most powerful forces to their worshipers. All other gods are worthless to them, and depend on these deities for authority and purpose.

My point is that you can't say god of so-so religion is real because so and so, when there are other religions that claim the same for their gods. It's a pointless argument.

 

[ludolfo]

Now you change the subject -- what the frak does "goddess" have anything to do with the relationship between the biblical God and nature?

I presented a link to show you clearly. Did you miss it? As it says, the metaphor of a Great Mother and Womb precedes a concept of a supernatural 'Father'. Most people who know mythology know this. You apparently don't.
So you actually believe in a father God Creator in heaven do you?

And yes, if you have any powers of critical thinking, the fact that God tells people to do the same thing nature does is highly important.

The patriarchal God condemns nature in the 'creation myth' because of the disobedience of Adam and Eve

No, I haven't encountered it because no one says it. The numbers of times it's used on the web is in double digits, and the appearances are not independent at all -- and not a single one of those web occurrences is from anyone saying it, only from people arguing against it.

I have heard it more than several times. You should get out more. Have you also missed the homophobic cliche "God didn't make Adam and Steve, he made Adam and Eve"?

By standard rules of scholarship, the best bet is that you invented it.

I don't know why I make effort with you. You irritate me.

The second statement above is not a commandment -- anyone with a basic ability to reason can tell that, because within mere chapters God turns around and commands them to make images,,,,,,,,, of things in heaven, and things on earth.

Stop it with you insulting innuendos!
Well your God is one fukin contradiction aint he then? Typical tyrannical capricious male ego.

And the first statement is merely logical. Any number between one and infinity for an origin of all things is ridiculous.

Oh right so that doesn't connect with his 'I am a jealous god' huh clever clogs?

The teaching ab out original sin is evident all around us: humans are selfish, cruel, and screw things up even when they have the best of intentions.

Because of toxic myths like the one you support.

As for "dominion", well, a cook has dominion over his soup, but the customer expects that to mean that the cook will do the very best possible to make the very best soup possible, From the ancient rabbis I was privileged to translate from when studying Hebrew, that's what God gave Adam: the privilege of caring for all of Creation and making it as good as possible. So it's actually at least as good as any animistic view of nature, because it doesn't give mankind any permission at all to abuse nature: nature belongs to God, and man's job is to take care of it to the best of his ability.

You are just an apologist for a toxic myth, and thus are in denial just how toxic it is. I am not. I can see the influence of that myth and hos even when people pretend to have left it, its principles become unconscious and act out causing further abuse all around.

It's this book called "the Bible" -- but not as abused by Latin thinkers (especially since Thomas Aquinas).

A book fit for burning along with the Koran etc!