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question about HIV

well i met the guy on manhunt, he was 10min walkin distance from my place so im like sure come over, hes like what u into ? im like kissing cuddling etc not sure about anal hes like i wanna do anal, im a bottom, im like well it depends on the mood, anyways we met at like i think 4:00am lol, he came over, and we were dry humping, i think i teased way too much that eventually we both gave into the temptation.... i asked him when was the last time u got tested... he said decemeber, but he was really persistant on being fucked bb, and i felt really vulnerable considering i was 3/4th asleep... i have no idea if he is HIV+ he told me he is negative.... though i donno if people would lie about that?

We can have a talk about having someone you don't know and just met on the internet come to your house at 4AM some other time.

Yes, some people do lie about HIV status, especially on Manhunt. Not all... there's plenty of guys out there who like bareback and get tested regularly. I ride a motorcycle in Los Angeles which means I'm not allowed to lecture you about taking risks.

Just either wait the 6 weeks or so until you're past the window for the free test or cough up the $130-200 and get a PCR test.
 
isn't your piece of mind worth that much?

Take it as a lesson learned.

thanks man, i guess all i gotta do is wait 6 months... what im so scared off is getting a phone call from them being like we got ur results, and then not getting that phone call is more scary cause i feel like im still waiting
 
Yeah. I don't like to be one of those obnoxious preachy people but honestly, bareback just isn't worth it. If you can imagine having that burden that you had for that short time on your mind for the rest of your life, that would just suck.
 
All it takes is one time BB, in the heat of "passion" to get the infection. Jasun, what are your thoughts/experiences with the saliva swap tests a lot of places use?
 
Within weeks of infection (upto 6 months post-infection) HIV RNA and Antigen levels rise and seroconversion occurs.

Co-inciding with Seroconversion (occuring usually between 3-4 weeks), approximately 90% of people will suffer from flu-like illness which is self-limiting.

After this primary phase, infected patients go into an asymptomatic phase that can last anywhere between 2 and 10 years (these people are physically well but infectious).

The Asymptomatic phase is known as the set point - levels of HIV antigen fall to undetectable levels with HIV RNA levels also falling dramatically. The drop in detectable Antigens and RNA and the asymptomatic effect is due to a dynamic equilibrium being reached between viral replication and destruction (this can give an idea of how likely disease progression is within the next five years).

After the Asymptomatic phase, comes the prodromal phase where a variety of prodromal disorders set in e.g. persistant cadidiasis, diarrhoea, weight loss etc.

HIV can then progress to AIDS which sees the onset of a variety of different diseases/infections e.g. rare malignancies, neurological disease etc.

Infact the majority of deaths in HIV positive patients is due to secondary infections such as pneumonia and not HIV infection itself.

The ELISA/EIA/LIA and S/R format tests all detect Anti-HIV IgG indicating infection if positive.

RTPCR is used to detect the genetic material of the virus itself.

Antibody levels are detectable in the majority of the population between 3 and 4 weeks, rarely has it been discovered that someone has taken 6 months to develop detectable Antibody levels. This is the reason many health authorities recommend the 6 month test.

The "rapid" ELISA type methods have a very high (99.5%) sensitivity, that means you have 99.5% chance of detecting Antibodies in the 3-4 week (for majority of people) period. Basically you have virtually no chance of being positive if the test says your negative.

However, the high sensitivity slightly lowers the specificity of the test leading to the chance of false positive results. This means that if you do have a positive result, they use a more specific method to confirm this diagnosis.

Hope this helps ..|
 
To be honest, sex with a stranger doesn't really seem much safer with less than a tenth of a millimetre between me and some guy who could be lying about his health. There are some weird people out there. You'll pick some of them out online.

I think your risk is very low. But the other issue here is that you had bad sex. Some loser pressuring you into bareback sex, beyond your comfort zone, insisting on it anyway, when you kind of wanted something low-key and some sleep, is bad sex. You deserve better, and you can get it. He was offering you amateur hour sexual bullshit, and you never have to settle for bad sex.

Instead you could have a guy who would respect your limits, get to know you, have an honest conversation about health and history, and give you time to decide whether you trust him or not. Then the only thing going through your mind when you finally fuck will be "Wow this is good!!!" and you'll enjoy the freedom of the moment with no doubts at the time and no fears after the fact.

Now, I think your risk is very very very low. But you know the difference between zero risk and 1% risk right? The difference is, you get tested in 3 months.

And the reason you do that is not because you might be sick. You get tested so you can look into the eyes of the guy you do want to be with and say "I don't think I'm okay, I know it." Then you'll be giving him the same freedom to enjoy the moment that lets both actually enjoy sex.
 
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