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Quit smoking

ariesstar89 said:
My thing is this KaraBulut, its not that I want to quit at this point...its almost a thing where, I want to keep at it just surely out of defiance based on the fact that they are makin me quit and blackmailin me out of it. Immature I know, but just saying...

When I decide to quit for good or whatever, I want it to be my own decision, and not a choice made by someone else.
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Whether you smoke or quit has nothing to do with other people or defiance. It has everything to do with your health. You know that but you're dragging in all this other baggage into it.

Just a personal aside that I hope you will think about... you've got a lot of ups and downs and ins and outs in your life. I can't but wonder if a lot of these behaviors are connected. It would not surprise me if underlying a lot of these things is a mood disorder. And you wouldn't be the first person to self-medicate with nicotine and other things in the search to feel better- even if just for a few minutes.
 
I'm still smoking and it's sucks (((( but hope I'll be strong enough to quit
 
KaraBulut said:
Whether you smoke or quit has nothing to do with other people or defiance. It has everything to do with your health. You know that but you're dragging in all this other baggage into it.

Just a personal aside that I hope you will think about... you've got a lot of ups and downs and ins and outs in your life. I can't but wonder if a lot of these behaviors are connected. It would not surprise me if underlying a lot of these things is a mood disorder. And you wouldn't be the first person to self-medicate with nicotine and other things in the search to feel better- even if just for a few minutes.
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So are you suggesting I have mental issues? Or what...
 
ariesstar89 said:
So are you suggesting I have mental issues? Or what...
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No, I'm gently asking you to think about some of the things that you've been doing lately that aren't healthy for you- body, mind or spirit.

Over the years, I've had many friends who commented that they felt down and that they got a buzz off of nicotine or alcohol or meth or coke or a host of other substances. Once they talked to their doctor about the issue, it became apparent that they had an underlying depression and that they they were using these substances feel better.

Everyone had periods of depression and it's much better to deal with it head-on than to try to self-medicate with things that just aren't good for you.
 
KaraBulut said:
No, I'm gently asking you to think about some of the things that you've been doing lately that aren't healthy for you- body, mind or spirit.

Over the years, I've had many friends who commented that they felt down and that they got a buzz off of nicotine or alcohol or meth or coke or a host of other substances. Once they talked to their doctor about the issue, it became apparent that they had an underlying depression and that they they were using these substances feel better.

Everyone had periods of depression and it's much better to deal with it head-on than to try to self-medicate with things that just aren't good for you.
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Ok Kara, I've been goin on months before I would decide to post on this....because I'm not goin to lie - When I saw this and your first suggestion it made me so mad I couldn't see straight. Maybe that's the immaturity or maybe that's the defense picking up after the "attack".

Anyways, Kara I do appreciate your concern. I truly do....of anyone that's here on JUB that I feel truly does care about my health and being it would be you along with another small handful. I think I should go ahead and say this: I've had a rough life and yes that is no excuse for me being mad at your post or what-not, but I have. I know what you may be thinking...Not everyone has a "perfect" or "easy" life. But I truly have. Most of my life, particularly in my youth, has been defined as having to be their for others (my mom and sister) while my own worries/concerns/thoughts didn't matter. Needless to say, going on about a decade with this mentality of having to be strong for the two of them following a rough and ugly divorce, it got the best of me, and during my first year of high school I had a mental breakdown, tried to commit suicide, failed and went through therapy. The therapy helped me to address the depression correctly and for the first time in my life, I felt my own self-worth was important.

To get to a reply of your post, I don't feel as if I am using the smoking to try to self-medicate my problems with life. Yes, at times I have...and yes at times I've used that to be able to get through a tough and difficult hour but honestly I don't do that all the time or whatever. I've continued to smoke regardless of my parents wishes...because in all honesty, I don't want to quit anymore. I have no need to. Yes, the health benefits are astounding...yes, the cost of smoking so much is staggering...yes, the fact that it is disgusting to others is bad. But I don't have any motivation to quit when I personally do not want to anymore. I'm not tryin to come across as "in-your-face" or "fuck-off," I'm just trying to explain things. Feel free to comment back or anyone else for that matter
 
Well, you aren't the first person to get mad at me and undoubtably you won't be the last. (*8*)

One of the advantages of anonymity of forums like this is that I can be frank without having to worry about losing friends or any of the other repercussions.

Sometimes posts here make sense to those who read them. Sometimes they don't. They're offered without strings, obligation and certainly without malice.

My point to you on the smoking is that sometimes it isn't about the addiction. When you get to the root of other issues it removes the need.

I will say to you- and I think I may have said this in another thread- I've noticed a change in your posts over the past 6 months. They are infrequent but they're showing a lot of insight. And I hope that holds true in your real life away from JUB.
 
KaraBulut said:
I will say to you- and I think I may have said this in another thread- I've noticed a change in your posts over the past 6 months. They are infrequent but they're showing a lot of insight. And I hope that holds true in your real life away from JUB.
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Thank you so much. That really means a lot to me when someone can actually notice the truth I put behind what posts I chose to make. I like to think that I am an insightful person away from the computer as well. Kind of hard for me to be though, because half the time its not noticed or its discarded. But I digress...

As I've said in that last post, I'm really not trying to come across as, well...a bitch, but just wanted to be honest as I could without steppin' on any toes.
 
ariesstar89 said:
Thank you so much. That really means a lot to me when someone can actually notice the truth I put behind what posts I chose to make. I like to think that I am an insightful person away from the computer as well. Kind of hard for me to be though, because half the time its not noticed or its discarded. But I digress...

As I've said in that last post, I'm really not trying to come across as, well...a bitch, but just wanted to be honest as I could without steppin' on any toes.
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I noticed and I know that others noticed, too.

The process of learning to control hurt, anger and frustration is something that comes with age.

Us old guys joke that we wish that we could be a young guy again- with a twenty-something body- but with the wisdom we have now. It's one of life's little ironies that wisdom in a man's life develops as gravity begins to win the battle.

You strike me as someone who often responds emotionally to people and to situations. What is changing is that you're beginning to use emotion and insight together to understand yourself and others. That gives you the capacity for empathy and understanding how others feel.
 
How are you holding up? It has been over two years and I am just wondering how you are feeling... I just read some of your Southern Boy blog and I hope everything is ok...
 
as far as I knew, 3 per day was the limit at which your body starts to become addicted to the habit/nicotine.

I just recently re-quit, from smoking a pack a day (25-30). Its tough, but its been a fair while now, about 5 weeks without one. YES its still hard for me, YES I still want to go to the store downstairs and buy a packet, and an ice cold coke and sit on my balcony puffing away.

but no, I won't do it. I'd rather have my health back, more money in my pocket, and social acceptance.
 
chrisw87 said:
as far as I knew, 3 per day was the limit at which your body starts to become addicted to the habit/nicotine.
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I only had to smoke one a day for a little over three weeks before I started craving/withdrawing, but I quit as soon as I noticed I was addicted. It SUCKED for a few months after that. The cravings gradually grew further apart and faded in intensity, but even at their worst, they were always something I could "ride out"; I told myself that it's OKAY to get cravings, because it only lasts about five minutes and it's really no big deal. Since I didn't fall into the trap of using nicotine as a psychological crutch in order to deal with stress, I haven't touched a cigarette since October of 2009.


Do I still get cravings every once in awhile? Yeah.

Would it take a lot of work for me to get started smoking again? Yeah.

It is worth it, knowing what it does to my body? No.



Nicotine's the lamest addiction you can have, anyway; you quickly build up a tolerance to the "buzz" effect, and it's just something you keep doing in order to feel "normal". I'd much rather masturbate.
 
Has anyone been able to quit with Zyban/Wellbutrin? I've been on it about a week, and so far the cravings are not going away. My doc wouldn't give me Chantex because of my depression.

I've tried nicotine gum and lozenges several times, only to get extremely strong cravings and cave after two weeks. And the time I quit cold turkey, I thought I'd loose my mind, I felt like a basket case for about two months. Figured this time I'd better have some help.
 
I don't know if the OP is still active here but I recomend electronic cigs for anyone who smokes. I quit smoking cold turkey for a year but slowly went back when I joined the military.

I now only smoke electronic cigs because they allow me to keep smoking without all the added health risks. I don't cough anymore. I don't smell. I can smoke indoors. I don't get any of the negative effects I had with real cigs and I can keep smoking and they taste better. My favorite flavor is cherry.

My run time has improved on my PT as well. When I was smoking tobacco cigs I would get out of breath a lot quickier, so I really don't see why anyone should continue to use real cigs.
 
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