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Rachel Maddow: Closeted Gay Anchors 'Have A Responsibility To Come Out'

Rachel Maddow sent a message to closeted gay news anchors: you have to come out.

Maddow made the comment in an interview with The Guardian which was published on Monday. In it, this exchange takes place:

Does she feel frustration towards an equally well-known news presenter who is widely assumed to be gay but has never come out? For the first time, Maddow pauses: "I'm sure other people in the business have considered reasons why they're doing what they're doing, but I do think that if you're gay you have a responsibility to come out," she says carefully.

Maddow is one of two openly gay anchors on MSNBC, along with Thomas Roberts, a daytime anchor. She has frequently discussed her relationship with her partner, artist Susan Mikula. She has also defended herself against anti-gay critics on the air, saying, "just because you don't like that I'm gay, it does not make what we say not true."

UPDATE: In a blog post on Monday evening, Maddow responded to the attention that the interview has received. She stressed that she wasn't referring to anyone specific in her comments—adding that readers would not have to "read between the lines" if she had been directly calling anyone out—and listed what she called her "ethics of coming out":

1. Gay people -- generally speaking -- have a responsibility to our own community and to future generations of gay people to come out, if and when we feel that we can. 2. We should all get to decide for ourselves the "if and when we feel that we can" part of that. 3. Closeted people should reasonably expect to be outed by other gay people if (and only if) they prey on the gay community in public, but are secretly gay themselves.


She also told the paper that having the gay community look up to her "gives me joy." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/25/rachel-maddow-closeted-gay-anchirs_n_853464.html

The ONLY anchor that came to my mind was Mr. Cooper, Anderson that is.
 
Even though she didn't specifically say Cooper's name (at first), no doubt she had him in mind when she said "other people in the business. ." I think the article just tried to insinuate Cooper more than she did.

However, her follow-up does say Cooper by name. By publicly bringing up Cooper's name in the media to deny she was referring to him, she causes the spotlight to go on him even more. I'm sure Anderson is feeling some pressure from the attention. He won't be able to address it without either coming out, or lying. So he likely will continue to keep quiet.
 
I'm kind of with Anderson Cooper on this. In order to maintain an element of not only journalistic integrity, but neutrality...it would be best if the private lives of any news anchor remain unknown. Unfortunately that's just not a reality in the ever-crazed world we live in.
 
Well Cooper's new daytime talk show premieres this September, so he will have a constant spotlight on him, like never before, especially on his personal life, IMO.
 
-Callum- said:
In order to maintain an element of not only journalistic integrity, but neutrality...it would be best if the private lives of any news anchor remain unknown..
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You're saying Maddow has no journalistic integrity? I will argue he has more journalistic integrity than most others in the business. Yes we know she is gay, but do we really know her private life? I'm sure her private life is much more than being gay.
 
Spiff said:
You're saying Maddow has no journalistic integrity? I will argue he has more journalistic integrity than most others in the business. Yes we know she is gay, but do we really know her private life? I'm sure her private life is much more than being gay.
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I'm sure she does, but I'm also positive many people don't watch her show because she is a lesbian.
 
 
And you think his ratings will go up if he comes out? I fail to see the correlation. Maddow's could be higher if she weren't a lesbian (plus she's more entertaining than Cooper).
 
-Callum- said:
And you think his ratings will go up if he comes out? I fail to see the correlation. Maddow's could be higher if she weren't a lesbian (plus she's more entertaining than Cooper).
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You are the one who first brought up ratings by saying many people won't watch a lesbian; which implies you think there is some correlation of ratings to someone's sexuality. If you were not concerned about ratings, then what was your point when you said that?
 
I completely disagree with this. The choice to come out is a personal and private descision for everyone. No one should be forced to come out for the sake of others.

To add, we already have a plethora of talented and positive gay role models to look up to if that is what one is searching for however once someone comes out we have a tendency to cast them off as "done your part now move along" Think about the gay performers you do know and how many of them lead relevant lives anymore. Lance Bass, Clay Aiken, Chad Allen?
 
You posted in response to my comment evidence of her ratings being higher...and I'm saying the could be higher if she weren't a lesbian. I highly doubt Cooper's ratings would rocket with confirmation of his homosexuality.

But we're talking about MSNBC with her, I suppose it doesn't get anymore liberal than that in America...
 
I would rather have Maddow has an out, PROUD as hell lesbian with lower ratings than if she was a closeted gal perpetuating a heterosexual image to just get bigger ratings...or treat her sexuality as "private" because somehow that's the single most private and defining aspect of who we are (which it is not).
I'm with Maddow on this one.
 
theFallenGod said:
I completely disagree with this. The choice to come out is a personal and private descision for everyone. No one should be forced to come out for the sake of others.
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She did not say one had to come out for the sake of others.
If you actually pay attention to what she was saying, as well as her further blog post clearing up this article...she states that she respects that everyone should be able to do it in their own time, in their own way.
Pay attention to what the lady is actually saying.

To add, we already have a plethora of talented and positive gay role models to look up to if that is what one is searching for however once someone comes out we have a tendency to cast them off as "done your part now move along" Think about the gay performers you do know and how many of them lead relevant lives anymore. Lance Bass, Clay Aiken, Chad Allen?
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We have some... keyword: some.
In terms of the bigger picture, most are still in the closet.
And just because you think there are a "plethora" of role models to look up to...maybe for many others, depending on their perspective and walk of life, they don't. And many don't.

As for the examples you have given, that has little to do with the public, or the gay community, casting off anyone. That has to do with the choices they have made in terms of their own career, public image, etc.
There are some LGBT celebs that get a pretty consistent level of support.
 
I like Maddow's program and since she wasn't referring to anyone specifically, this isn't news or gossip. I do think that she does proper research and she often has statistics and facts to back up quite a bit of information. However, her show is intended to be a opinion-news show and she's never represented it as anything other than that.
 
Can't stand Maddow, but if she can force Anderson and Smith out of the closet, then three hurrahs!
 
Robin Roberts,Shepard Smith, Don lemon people just automatically assume Anderson Cooper. Cooper is more out than Rachel simply because i see Cooper and his boyfriend everywhere. I see the two more than i see tom cruise with his wife katy holmes. I just don't need the whole People I Am Gay cover because we know, my mom knows everyone knows. Anderson is NOT closeted about his relationship what so ever.
 
datjacob said:
Robin Roberts,Shepard Smith, Don lemon people just automatically assume Anderson Cooper. Cooper is more out than Rachel simply because i see Cooper and his boyfriend everywhere. I see the two more than i see tom cruise with his wife katy holmes. I just don't need the whole People I Am Gay cover because we know, my mom knows everyone knows. Anderson is NOT closeted about his relationship what so ever.
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Anderson IS closeted until he changes the dynamic.

And he's too much of a coward to do it.
 
masgrandeburrito said:
Well Cooper's new daytime talk show premieres this September, so he will have a constant spotlight on him, like never before, especially on his personal life, IMO.
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I totally agree. Rosie tried for a couple of years but with his talk show it'll be pretty difficult to skate around the whole boyfriend living with you . he'll have to talk about it eventually but i'm not rushing him because he's not one of those self loathing hypocrites that bashes gays and secretly has a boyfriend hidden somewhere. I would take the same steps anderson has taken and just be very open about my relationship which he is and positive towards the gay community.

The guy attended the oscars after parties with his boyfriend for god sake so anderson is pretty open to me. He hasn't told me that he's gay but fuck who am i? i'm positive his friends like kathy griffin and his family knows. shit we all know. I just couldn't ask for anything more from anderson. He's to me, in my opinion the most openly gay anchor on tv.
 
Rachel had the advantage of always being out, so she never had to have a confrontation with management, her agent, and others who depend on her rating success.

the problem is these anchors aren't reporters but personalities. They are judged as much by their Q rating (likability index,) rather than breaking a big story, like Bob Woodward.

while taking a swipe at other anchors is perhaps a motive,

I think she's trying to reach others who are starting a career in broadcasting:

come out now, so it won't be an issue down the road.
 
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