Rachel Maddow: Closeted gay anchors....

[datjacob]

I agree. Stand and be counted. Your community needs you.

Where are the people asking for Shepard Smith or Robin Roberts to come out and say that they are gay? Why must it be Anderson? and i'm afraid that once he does come out the gays and the public will give him some sort of bitchy backlash like oh well we already knew just like we did with ricky martin and clay aiken, so in the end whats the point? As long as i see him and his boyfriends riding on their bicycles across new york and going to oscar parties together what more can i ask for? What is it with us wanting to hear those damn Three Words. I AM GAY.


I just feel like Anderson is so open about his relationship that he doesn't have to say that he's gay in order to help our community. Not everyone wants the people I Am Gay magazine cover. Some people like Anderson wants to live their lives as ordinary people not as gay people. Once he says publicly that he is gay it will define him forever.

 

[theFallenGod]

I also ask why it is necessary for public people to come out publicly?

Ultimately it's there life and their business. What does being gay have to do with what kind of person they are in general?

When I was growing up my idols and those I looked up to were not gay at all. They were ordinary people who did extraordinary things. I didn't need some celebrity to justify who I was as a person, especially some celebrity I would never ever know in real life.

As far as already out gay celebrities, look up to Neil Patrick Harris who is showing the world you can be successful and raise a family. Or how about Harvey Fierstien? That man has done more for the gay community than any other gay celebrity I can think of.

Why are we constantly focused on "who else" rather than those that are already here for us?

 

[bluedragon4]

Where are the people asking for Shepard Smith or Robin Roberts to come out and say that they are gay? Why must it be Anderson? and i'm afraid that once he does come out the gays and the public will give him some sort of bitchy backlash like oh well we already knew just like we did with ricky martin and clay aiken, so in the end whats the point? As long as i see him and his boyfriends riding on their bicycles across new york and going to oscar parties together what more can i ask for? What is it with us wanting to hear those damn Three Words. I AM GAY.


I just feel like Anderson is so open about his relationship that he doesn't have to say that he's gay in order to help our community. Not everyone wants the people I Am Gay magazine cover. Some people like Anderson wants to live their lives as ordinary people not as gay people. Once he says publicly that he is gay it will define him forever.

I never said Anderson in my post. Maybe you just read it that way because everyone is pointing him out. And that last part of your statement is kinda homophobic. You may always define him that way but not everyone else will. I don't look at connie chung and think there is that asian reporter or al roker and think there is that black weather man. I guess you have to be a prejudice person to think that way.

 

[juicyjack]

I don't think anyone has to be out and open about their sexuality. It's a right to be able to talk about it, but I think it is also a right to not talk about it. If it isn't supposed to define someone completely, like people have mentioned, then why does it need to be mentioned? I get Maddow's point to a degree in terms of the gay community I guess, but I think people have a right to just not talk about it if they don't want to. Anderson Cooper is the guy everyone is talking about and I guess the pressure is on him more than anyone right now, but he should have the right to not do that. Maybe he feels it's not important enough, or maybe he feels he's making a statement by not talking about it. Maybe he feels it will ruin a career he's worked hard for. Your own personal feelings shouldn't be about everyone else. They are your own feelings for a reason.

 

[NineOfClubs]

sort of like the coward that looks for life's answers at the bottom of an empty beer glass???

What a wussie, cheap ass comment!

I'm out at my work and have been for decades. No coward here.

And Anderson and Smith need to "grow a pair" as a former JUB-ber was fond of saying.

 

[lolalola70]

has anderson or smith ever denied being gay? has anyone on AC360 ever just flat out asked anderson? maybe he'll say yes, why do you ask? maybe he'll say no. who knows? i'm surprised when he's interviewed anti-gay people in the past one of them didn't ask him then.

 

[NineOfClubs]

Cooper has been asked, here's his response:

When asked about his sexuality, he stated, "I understand why people might be interested. But I just don’t talk about my personal life. It’s a decision I made a long time ago, before I ever even knew anyone would be interested in my personal life. The whole thing about being a reporter is that you're supposed to be an observer and to be able to adapt with any group you’re in, and I don’t want to do anything that threatens that."

Not exactly that bold...

 

[Sgt Pepper]

Clearly she's talking about Bill O'Reilly.

 

[NineOfClubs]

^ "Personal life" is code for "sex life".

 

[he11ien]

Rachel Maddow: Closeted Gay Anchors 'Have A Responsibility To Come Out'

Rachel Maddow sent a message to closeted gay news anchors: you have to come out.

Interesting, considering most "in the closet" people really aren't in the closet. They just don't feel like spreading their personal business around. When's the last time you heard about somebody straight having to come out?

Does she feel frustration towards an equally well-known news presenter who is widely assumed to be gay but has never come out? For the first time, Maddow pauses: "I'm sure other people in the business have considered reasons why they're doing what they're doing, but I do think that if you're gay you have a responsibility to come out," she says carefully.

Oh what, so they can be ridiculed, treated like shit, possibly lose their jobs...Yeah, the real world is not ready for homosexuality/bisexuality, not when it still treats them like they're an entire other species of creature.

Maddow is one of two openly gay anchors on MSNBC, along with Thomas Roberts, a daytime anchor. She has frequently discussed her relationship with her partner, artist Susan Mikula. She has also defended herself against anti-gay critics on the air, saying, "just because you don't like that I'm gay, it does not make what we say not true."

Real world knocking on this bitches door yet again. In the real world, males who aren't straight get all the negativity. Females, however, can be as homo as they wanna be because hey, two girls gets those straight dudes even more straighter than they were 2 minutes ago.

UPDATE: In a blog post on Monday evening, Maddow responded to the attention that the interview has received. She stressed that she wasn't referring to anyone specific in her comments—adding that readers would not have to "read between the lines" if she had been directly calling anyone out—and listed what she called her "ethics of coming out":

Nice to see she thinks that her "ethics of coming out" is the damn gospel.

1. Gay people -- generally speaking -- have a responsibility to our own community and to future generations of gay people to come out, if and when we feel that we can. 2. We should all get to decide for ourselves the "if and when we feel that we can" part of that. 3. Closeted people should reasonably expect to be outed by other gay people if (and only if) they prey on the gay community in public, but are secretly gay themselves.

Seriously this grown woman can not lack this much intelligence, but be trying to tell someone something. Problem is people get pissed, they want to get that person back, and what a better way to get them back than to spill the secret? And as I said before, the whole closet thing is stupid. Homosexual/bisexuals are never in the closet. They are born the way they are. What they choose to keep personal is their own business. Because they live in the real world, where real people have a real problem that they really need to seek therapy for.

She also told the paper that having the gay community look up to her "gives me joy." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/25/rachel-maddow-closeted-gay-anchirs_n_853464.html

Heh. Am I the only one who'd never heard of this bitch until I clicked this topic? Sorry for the spewage of venom on my part, but it's silly shit like this that gets and shitstorm started. Then she'll be trying to figure out where she went wrong at.

 

[datjacob]

^^You must be young because if you've watched rachel maddow than you'd respect rachel maddow. The lady can do no wrong. She's that perfect. seriously like her shit never stinks.

 

[Kraseviya]

Didn't Harvey Milk say something sort of similar?
“I cannot prevent anyone from getting angry, or mad, or frustrated. I can only hope that they’ll turn that anger and frustration and madness into something positive, so that two, three, four, five hundred will step forward, so the gay doctors will come out, the gay lawyers, the gay judges, gay bankers, gay architects … I hope that every professional gay will say ‘enough’, come forward and tell everybody, wear a sign, let the world know. Maybe that will help.”

 

[paintact]

Interesting, considering most "in the closet" people really aren't in the closet. They just don't feel like spreading their personal business around. When's the last time you heard about somebody straight having to come out?

I think most people are in the closet.
And this whole "straight people don't have to come out, so why do gay people" argument has no basis in reality because we live in a hetero-normative society. The default is heterosexuality until proven otherwise... it's their world, so they don't have to do anything.
We are different...thus, however one decides to say "hey, I'm not like you other guys" is going to have to do it eventually...whether one verbalizes it or shows it through action. That's simply the reality of the world we live in.

Once again, she is not saying people should be outed (unless they are doing damage to the LGBTQ community).
She even said she respects people doing it in their own way, in their own time, however they need to. I do think she is pointing out the fact public figures are obviously in a different position, and with that comes a very unique kind of influence...an influence that can be used in a positive way.
And again, just because someone knows your sexuality doesn't give them any right to know anything about your personal life or relationships. That goes for straight people too.

I do think about Harvey Milk, and all those like him...those who fought not just through action...but by simply making their presence known. People who said, "hey, we're here, we exist, we are among you...we are you."
I mean, how would we have even gotten to this point if people like Harvey Milk, the folks at Stonewall, etc. all just "kept it private"?

 

[kayman23]

You are the one who first brought up ratings by saying many people won't watch a lesbian; which implies you think there is some correlation of ratings to someone's sexuality. If you were not concerned about ratings, then what was your point when you said that?

Rachel Maddow is a more captiving fixture on TV in spite of being a homosexual not because of being a homosexual. The same can't be said about Anderson Cooper, so what point would it prove aside from everybody wanting to know who's he fucking or fucking him. I'm out myself, but I believe in letting people do them on their own terms not on someone else's term. Also if you are only watching Rachel because she is a homosexual then you are watching her show for the wrong reasons and the same should be applied about Thomas Roberts as well...