On Topic Discussion "Racism and Black Men In Gay Porn"

[cgymike]

^Black guys have huge dicks so bottoming is a letdown. Won't generally see it.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

^Black guys have huge dicks so bottoming is a letdown. Won't generally see it.

But they've got big booties too!

 

[cgymike]

Run out of popcorn..

 

[kayman23]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-alvear/why-are-whites-always-the_b_6503674.html

This reaffirms why most interracial porn films suck...

 

[Benvolio]

There is more than race involved, obviously. For me, facial and body hair is a turn off, and black men in porn tend, in my experience, to have beards or at least body hair. It seems to part of the thug look. Are there any companies which produce videos with ALL black men young and smooth?
I have noticed that there are a lot of black men on escort sites, like Rentboy, backpage, craigslist, and they overwhelmingly advertise as tops, rarely bottoms. I think this is because many are straight black men, willing to top for pay, but only a few are gay black men willing to bottom.

 

[unloadonme]

Considering ignorance is pretty mainstream...well there you have it. The porn industry is just catering to their audience. Ka-ching with every upstroke.

It's just supply and demand. The overwhelming majority of gay porn customers want to see young, smooth, white guys. When a company breaks from that, they take a very real financial risk. If there were a significant number of people who wanted to see more non-whites, some studio would be there to reap the financial rewards.

I agree with derperez and The Fly ...

OP, I didn't watch the video, but I agree with your first post. I also disagree with people who say it's supply and demand. People deal with what's given to them. To my knowledge, there aren't porn producers taking surveys of gay men asking what they want to see. I get so sick of seeing the "thug" stereotype be so prevalent. I'm assuming you watch interracial porn? I generally don't watch interracial, but that "thug" premise is there a lot in black on black porn too.

... but not with this from Passion4Muzik. To say "people deal with what's given to them" strikes me as commercially naive.

The porn industry is just that, an industry. It's there to make money and to do that it has to produce what customers will pay to see. If there was a demand for more black performers, inter-racial scenes, midgets taking giant luminous dildos whilst doing the washing up or whatever else floats one's boat, then it would be supplied. There may not be direct surveys of viewers' tastes, but like any other business, the porn companies know what sells.

 

[LuckysRevenge]

I agree with derperez and The Fly ...



... but not with this from Passion4Muzik. To say "people deal with what's given to them" strikes me as commercially naive.

The porn industry is just that, an industry. It's there to make money and to do that it has to produce what customers will pay to see. If there was a demand for more black performers, inter-racial scenes, midgets taking giant luminous dildos whilst doing the washing up or whatever else floats one's boat, then it would be supplied. There may not be direct surveys of viewers' tastes, but like any other business, the porn companies know what sells.

They might know what sells but does that mean another approach won't sell as well? If you mix some black guys in a few scenes do viewers suddenly cancel their membership and run for the hills?

I applaud sites like randy blue that have for over a decade had a more diverse assortment of porn "actors" and have not caved in to the bareback trend.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

Why does it sound like that since it is "supply and demand" that this means this is OK?

 

[borg69unimatrix]

It's a no win situation.

If there was a bunch of blacks bottoming for whites porn out there, then the PC people would be bitching because the white guys are still trying to dominate and control the blacks and keep them all submissive.

 

[IamNoah]

gay porn is racist because gay culture is racist because most humans are racist because of the primitive structure of the human brain because of our creeping slithering pre-mammalian ancestors. THE END

 

[LuckysRevenge]

It's a no win situation.

If there was a bunch of blacks bottoming for whites porn out there, then the PC people would be bitching because the white guys are still trying to dominate and control the blacks and keep them all submissive.

That's ridiculous. Who are these mysterious PC people?

Or is this post a joke...

 

[Beachguyj]

I came across this video and wanted to share it with you guys and ask your opinion:

I agree with what he said. I also think a big problem is how black men always have to play the "thug" character. I understand why it's such a popular fantasy, since a lot of those guys are homophobic. However, it's way too common and you rarely get to see another kind of black man. When I watch porn, I like to imagine myself with the models. Therefore, I get tired of the "thug" scenes very quickly, because I can't see myself with those kinds of guys. So, it's irritating when you want to see black guys, but can't find any other type. That's why I love sites like RandyBlue and NextDoorEbony, who portray black men in a non-stereotypical way.

Anyway, please share your thoughts on the subject.

I can't watch, that hair is horrendous.

 

[MakeDigitalLove]

I can't watch, that hair is horrendous.

 

[JPGhost]

My fav porn with black guy right now:

Aint nothing but a gay ass thug: http://www.freegayporn.com/watch/4183/ain039t-nothing-but-a-gay-ass-thug/
^
is that racist?

 

[Zeno Lorea]

I came across this video and wanted to share it with you guys and ask your opinion:

I agree with what he said. I also think a big problem is how black men always have to play the "thug" character. I understand why it's such a popular fantasy, since a lot of those guys are homophobic. However, it's way too common and you rarely get to see another kind of black man. When I watch porn, I like to imagine myself with the models. Therefore, I get tired of the "thug" scenes very quickly, because I can't see myself with those kinds of guys. So, it's irritating when you want to see black guys, but can't find any other type. That's why I love sites like RandyBlue and NextDoorEbony, who portray black men in a non-stereotypical way.

Anyway, please share your thoughts on the subject.

My thoughts are simple: nearly all the blacks I know are gentlemen, nearly all the blacks I see in professional porn are thugs. It may be changing thanks to the amateur stuff that is much more realistic. But it should be changing faster.

 

[Passion4Muzik]

I agree with derperez and The Fly ...

... but not with this from Passion4Muzik. To say "people deal with what's given to them" strikes me as commercially naive.

The porn industry is just that, an industry. It's there to make money and to do that it has to produce what customers will pay to see. If there was a demand for more black performers, inter-racial scenes, midgets taking giant luminous dildos whilst doing the washing up or whatever else floats one's boat, then it would be supplied. There may not be direct surveys of viewers' tastes, but like any other business, the porn companies know what sells.

I will disagree again. With the internet, more people are open about viewing porn, but there is a secretive attitude about sex. Gays at large operate in secret, so there's no way for the creators of porn to know what consumers really want. It's not like gay porn started out with a lot of options, so the viewers were just happy to see themselves represented. If you were starving and ramen noodles were the only thing presented to you, that's what you'd eat. If you were presented with ramen noodles along with 6 other options that were gourmet meals, chances are you'd choose the gourmet meals. Do you know of any petitions targeted at a porn company to produce different types of porn? Do you know of any public campaigns to get producers to switch it up? Of course not. What we're presented is what the producers think is hot. There are so many porn companies today and amateur sites that people just seek out what they want to see. There is no real way to complain about what is viewed and most people wouldn't bother anyway. People would rather buy bad porn than have no porn at all. There is one porn site that produces videos that have edits every few moments. Every single video is produces that way. So many people on the net have complained for years about that horrible way of producing, yet nothing has changed. The videos tend to have hot guys so people just deal with it. The issue the thread starter is having is that there isn't a large variety in image of Black men in interracial porn. There is no motivation for producers to change what traditionally has been shown.

gay porn is racist because gay culture is racist because most humans are racist because of the primitive structure of the human brain because of our creeping slithering pre-mammalian ancestors. THE END

I couldn't disagree more. I think people say comments such as this to try to justify or excuse their own racism. Racism is a choice.

There is more than race involved, obviously. For me, facial and body hair is a turn off, and black men in porn tend, in my experience, to have beards or at least body hair. It seems to part of the thug look. Are there any companies which produce videos with ALL black men young and smooth?

I have noticed that there are a lot of black men on escort sites, like Rentboy, backpage, craigslist, and they overwhelmingly advertise as tops, rarely bottoms. I think this is because many are straight black men, willing to top for pay, but only a few are gay black men willing to bottom.

No offense, but you guys have seriously got to start reading threads. People just read the thread title and started carrying on about why there aren't more Blacks in interracial porn which was NOT THE POINT AT ALL of this topic. I prefer to watch Black only porn, but I've noticed that whites and Latinos tend to be hairier in general, so your experience seems to be very limited. Thuggishness is not about hair, it's about attire and demeanor. Tattoos also add to the appeal for some. For people aware of Black culture, it's VERY annoying to see a baseball cap and Timberlands thrown on obviously feminine guys and vers bottoms and for them to be labeled "thugs". People like you can't differentiate because you're not culturally aware. All you see is a Black man with a manufactured image.

 

[kallipolis]

All you see is a Black man with a manufactured image.

Perception tailors ones tastes sufficient to appreciate that masturbation fantasies driven by pornographic videos excite the imagination....having nothing to do with reality...for to believe that such images are symptomatic of reality is to immerse oneself in a fantasy world...remote from reality.

 

[dpnice]

I always thought porn sites evaluated the popularity of what they were producing by the numbers of people visiting their site.

No need for any other sort of surveys.

 

[Benvolio]

Many whites are hairy, but some porn companies specialize in young, smooth guys. Where are the videos of only young, smooth black guy? One smooth guy in a room of hairy guys does not work for many.
Your attempt to impose your own personal, precise definition of "thug" also does not work, because the word has been around for several hundred years, having its origin in the thugee religion in India. If he looks like a thug.....

 

[kallipolis]

I always thought porn sites evaluated the popularity of what they were producing by the numbers of people visiting their site.

No need for any other sort of surveys.

There is much truth in what you say, for it is standard commercial practice...but it is also correct to state that tastes can be massaged among those who are naïve, and innocent....