Racism is a problem--read this

[Andreus]

like the light brown race of Dorchester?

we all look alike in Dot

you cant tell just what mix is what anymore

 

[james1200]

look ijustblewmyload...do you have a shorter nickname by the way...i'm probably the future of this country, god help you all. i think a majority will probably be mixed race in the next 100 years...but you know what, people will always find someone to pick on cause they will always have a need to feel superior to someone...so in 100 years, we'll pick on white people...

now let' all hold hands and sing along...

 

[Nonimus]

Yeiup, no matter how BAD dem Nazi's were - they were all fucking cute!

 

[james1200]

did he who shall not be named just mention dorchester as if he unblocked me? good god...it must be the apocalypse.

you're right about those awful nazis nonimus...i think that's why i'm so attracted to you skinny chavs/white trash types...the neo nazi resemblance makes for a hot hate fuck.

 

[Andreus]

ooooh look

a tornado

A HOUSE !!!

Duck girl, duck

ehhh

i dont care if white guys find me attractive... i can pass for any race or none

depends on how hard i try to speak without an accent and how recently I have been speaking other languages

so i have it alot easier than most i guess

i need no white approval... I just want people to get out of the way and treat others as they want to be treated

besides... white men make good bottoms... they scream like they just wont the lottery when they take it up the ass

that is a notable tallent

 

[Nonimus]

besides... white men make good bottoms... they scream like they just wont the lottery when they take it up the ass

that is a notable tallent

Its also a horrible generalization - not saying that i haven't screamed like a Banshee when a Greek guy has gotten on top in the past...but still...n shit.

 

[Andreus]

Its also a horrible generalization - not saying that i haven't screamed like a Banshee when a Greek guy has gotten on top in the past...but still...n shit.

hehe

you caught that did ya... just an intentional poke to get your attention

soooo.....

when they say that greek men have big cocks...which they do

or that asian men have little ones... no personal experience there

is it just being sensitive to notice it?

or is it fair to call attention to the racist thoughts, even if they are meant to be positive?

I dont have the answer to this btw...

i dont mind when someone compliments my race. I do mind the slightest inkling of a negative racist remark though...

so is it all the same?

do we enable the whole thing by accepting racist praise? i hope not because i have no intention of asking for it to stop, to be honest

i have no idea, but its worth thinking about

 

[Nonimus]

hehe

you caught that did ya... just an intentional poke to get your attention

soooo.....

when they say that greek men have big cocks...which they do

or that asian men have little ones... no personal experience there

is it just being sensitive to notice it?

or is it fair to call attention to the racist thoughts, even if they are meant to be positive?

I dont have the answer to this btw...

i dont mind when someone compliments my race. I do mind the slightest inkling of a negative racist remark though...

so is it all the same?

do we enable the whole thing?

i have no idea, but its worth thinking about

It is indeed and i'll give it full length discussion in the pub with the boys on Saturday - meanwhile, i'm off to bed.

Alone

 

[Andreus]

It is indeed and i'll give it full length discussion in the pub with the boys on Saturday - meanwhile, i'm off to bed.

Alone

gnite my cute Chav

think of me and scream like a banshee in your dreams

 

[Andreus]

what exactly are you asking for

it seemed to me we discussed exactly what you asked

maybe we arent saying what you want us to say .....

that is fine if you just clarify it for us so we can understand better

 

[Andreus]

ahh

well the answer seems to be...

judging from the people of non white races that answered...

that by and large we dont care one way or the other

so i guess i need to turn the question back on you then

why do you assume that we are?

is this something that you find yourself doing?

or some of your friends maybe?

you may need to let the thread sit for a while and not be impatient

JUB is very white... no criticism, just a reality... it may take a while for guys that can give you more answers to pass through the boards.

 

[Andreus]

"We don't care" haha. We're all people of color here and we should care. We should care that a large number of minorities are choosing white cock over minority cock.

Shit, white people should care. Everyone should care.

what im saying is that we dont seem to all feel like we need cracka ass to feel better about things...

some of us just like the way a certain type looks, and it is not so mentally motivated. a stiff dick has no thoughts, morals or conscience. It just knows what it likes.

why should white people care if dark boys like them sexually? I dont care if they like my dark skin. I consider it a compliment.

it doesnt have to be deeper than that

and besides

persian men are too uptight about gay sex and greek men are all tops

i just dont think its as deep as you seem to think it is

but...

enough from me

lets see what other people say

 

[Kurn]

This is a major problem guys.

This is a major problem. It's different in different places.
A big factor is over-population. Competitive stresses compounded.

Another source of the problem is education. The fault comes from both directions. People just need to learn about their different-colored kinfolk.
Slogans and color-blindness are not acceptable.

But, among gay people? [Mainly males.] I can only agree with you in saying that it's a major problem in many places and there should be efforts to address it and correct it. One reason it's a problem is that gay guys are distracted by their existential problem of 'Why am I gay?' that they don't pay much attention to things like this [for the most part].
Well, if we want to avoid future problems each one of us should get involved with changing their attitudes. I HAVE----SO CAN YOU.

 

[Andreus]

why do i have to feel guilty about having a white boyfriend?

are we going to ensure the purity of our racial heritage through butt sex?

am I missing something?

why is this a problem?

why exactly should i be hooking up with men of my heritage?

if i want my culture to be more accepted shouldnt i reach beyond my own culture? why is closing myself off to other races a good thing? isn't that, by definition, the kind of racist things that we have been fighting against for years?

and what does this have to do with what puts lead in my pencil?

 

[Swellegant]

Though not an ethnic minority within my own society and therfore not of the sample you requested, I have noticed the phenomenon with which you started this post, I_Just_Blew_My_Load86 (and on a side-note, I think you may have won the Unofficial Longest Username Contest). As a matter of fact, I am a product of such an interracial relationship (my grandfather was of Chinese descent, and both of his wives, my father's grandmother and adopted mother, were/are of varied Nordic ethnicities).

The thing is, I really don't know a lot of gay Asian men, despite the fact that I live in a part of America with a very high population of Asians and Asian-Americans. And I've never dated an Asian before, either... I didn't even start finding other ethnicities attractive until I was well into my thirties, and still am more drawn to men of European descent than any other ethnotype.

All of the gay Asians I do know are in relationships with Europeans; and my best friend Caroline, who is also of Chinese descent and has never in her life dated an Asian man of any ethnicity (all of whom remind her of her abusive father), is involved with a group of gays through another friend of hers, who are almost all Filippino men in relationships with European men. And I see a lot of Asian women with European boyfriends and husbands as well... though considerably fewer European women with Asian men. So yeah, I have noticed the phenomenon and wondered about it.

But since my sample is so small, I don't dare make any observations on it. I have made a lot of observations on Europeans fetishizing certain ethnicities, and have for a long time tried to wrap my mind around it. Back when I was out "on the scene," as it were, I knew a number of European-descent men who dated exclusively within some other ethnicity, men who dated only Africans or only Asians or only Latinos. Sometimes they'd go through "phases" as if a person's ethnic background were a flavor of the week.

But how can attraction be considered racist if the attraction is to something belonging to that ethnicity, such as skin-colors or hair-textures or what-have-you? One is attracted wherever one is attracted, and the makings of attraction are largely a mystery. But I do find it uncomfortable and more than a little distasteful when people are attracted to some stereotypical ideal about these ethnicities, like that all African-descent men are all well-hung, or all Asian-descent men are submissive, or that all Hispanic-descent men are tops. It's both silly and dehumanizing (and demonstrably untrue).

It does raise the question, though: why do so many other ethnicities seem to worship and/or fetishize Europeans in general and Americans in particular? I learned long ago that European hookers are the highest-paid in Japan, especially if they're blond(e), and that there was quite a fashion in Japan a few years ago where Japanese women were getting plastic surgery to look more European. And in Japanese animation and comics, all of the lead characters look more European than Asian, with their big round eyes and pointed features and multicolored hair, while only the comical characters look typically Asiatic. That hints at a deep (if minor) self-loathing that baffles me.

Anyway, I didn't have any answers or even theories, just a few more observations to add to the puzzle. And I really don't think anything needs to be "done about it." I think we're actually moving in the right direction, biologically speaking, to seek further diversification of the human gene pool. Racial purity is only an expansion of inbreeding, and cannot do the species any good. I would certainly like to see some positive steps made within ethnicities to love themselves, but I don't think that dating solely within one's ethnicity is necessarily a sign of that.

 

[Andreus]

First you say we shouldn't need white cock, then you say you have a white boyfriend. I'm failing to see what exactly your point is.

The point here was to address minorities that automatically dismiss other minorities on the basis of race only to chase after white cock. Not saying that if two guys of different races meet and start dating, that there is something wrong with that.

But there is something wrong with denying someone who looks like you because you only want white meat. White guys don't dismiss eachother for minority meat like minorities do. See where I'm coming from?

but i have said that race doesnt matter and if its a white man that i get attracted to then i go with it.

i dont automatically dismiss anyone as a partner either romantically or sexually for the reasons of race....

i dont ONLY want anything and I dont rule anybody out.

But how can attraction be considered racist if the attraction is to something belonging to that ethnicity, such as skin-colors or hair-textures or what-have-you? One is attracted wherever one is attracted, and the makings of attraction are largely a mystery.

this is my idea exactly

i think that even having the conversation hints at racist agendas against white people, to be honest.

its like saying... i may find you cute and all, but i cant got here because you are the wrong color.

and that is for any reason in my book.

ehh dunno

im getting tired and muddled

off to bed soon, guys

i wish you all luck on figuring this one out. it's a really complicated topic.

hugs

 

[james1200]

he's arabic tho so he should be with other arabs only? how about me then...should i only be with other biracial guys??...i see what you're saying about black guys preferring only white guys...those guys have issues but there are white hispanics, white arabs, etc that this doesnt' apply to...

 

[Kurn]

Most (nearly all) Asians chase after white men.

This is simply not true. If you said 51% more-or-less; well m a y b e.
But "nearly ALL"? Maybe in your community. But elsewhere that is NOT the case.

 

[e2ksj3]

^ I understand what you mean, and think it sucks. People for some reason (I don't know if it's psychological or what), have this perceived notion where they want to stereotype and group certain people, although they may do it subconsciously. Like all black like "hip-hop" and act like thugs, and they have this preset picture in their mind that all black people are like that, certainly not myself. Their prince charming is usually the Abercrombie type model, with blonde hair, like what we see in magazines and TV. It's actually kind of scary that the media has this type of control over people subconsciously.

It does suck for someone like me, who is constantly rejected by guys, because people think I'm suppose to be this "thug" instead of getting to know me.

 

[Swellegant]

And just a question, how many of the white boyfriends of those Filipino men are actually attractive? They're all over 40, bald, and fat, right? Because that's what I've seen.

From the pictures I've seen, ain't none of 'em very pretty. But yeah, the European men are usually older, and not attractive by our fashion-magazine-informed aesthetic; the Filipino men (that never looks spelled right, no matter how I spell it) are always much younger, and are not just of Filipino descent but are actually from the Philippines and their older white boyfriends were instrumental in helping them emigrate. It's a very common practice, I'm told, not entirely different to the mail-order brides that come to America from all over the world.

But I beg of you, my dear, do not base too much theory on the behavior of people online. If you believed everything you read on gay dating and chat sites, and based your observations of humanity on what you read there, you will come up with a seriously skewed demographic. The rest of the world is very different from what you see there (or here for that matter).

I live in an ethnically diverse place. And though all of the gay Asians I've known are all in relationships with Europeans, very very few of the gay African-Americans I know are in relationships with Europeans. Mostly they date other African-Americans. Gay latinos are sort of mixed bag, being Latino isn't so different from being European that you really notice the interracial dating.

The whole topic is very confusing, though. And I really don't believe that dating exclusively in one's own race is any healthier than dating exclusively in another race. Though it certainly is more common for straight people to date within their ethnicities, I think it's more cultural than racial, and is something that is breaking down at high speed... faster, of course, in ethnically diverse places and slower in nondiverse places.

And gay or straight, stated exclusivity in racial preference always strikes me as sinister, whether it's your own race or someone else's. "I'd never date a black/white/Asian/Hispanic (wo)man" doesn't sound good coming out of anybody's mouth.