racist guys?

[Jerry]

Why is it relevant that you're white? It really shouldn't matter that you're white. You should try to think of yourself as a person instead of as a white person. That whole idea that skin color puts you into a "race", or makes you a different type of person is so outdated.

I mentioned it because the conversation is about race and racial predjudice.

So in the context of the conversation, I think mentioning my race IS relevant.

The only time I mention race or the color of a person's skin outside of this type of conversation, is when I'm trying to describe someone. In that case, things like skin color, hair color, age range, gender, etc. are kinda handy for the other person to figure out who you're talking about.

Not long ago I was hanging out with some coworkers, maybe 8-10 of us in all. I heard someone say "token white guy" so I kinda looked around and noticed I was the only white guy there. Before that, I had no idea.
I could care less about skin color except when it comes to sexual attraction, I prefer people with darker skin than me. But that's simply a superficial thing that catches my eye. It's not really that important to me past that.

But if y'all want to call me a racist then have at it. I really don't care.

 

[MCsNo1Fn]

I find it funny that it seems to be okay to not like someone because they're fat, or too thin, etc, but when it comes to race it's a no-no! It's the same thing. Regardless of WHO the person is, to each their own. This is such an odd topic because people aren't making sense. It's not okay to be attracted to a specific thing, but it's okay to not be attracted to fat or skinny people.
I'm not attracted to people with a lot of muscles. I'm not attracted to people with long hair. I'm not attracted to people without tattoos. I'm not attracted to people without facial piercings.
Just because someone isn't attracted to black guys doesn't mean they're racist. It also doesn't mean that because they're not attracted to them, that someone maybe down the road they get involved with someone. Shit happens. It's unbelievable the things people judge you on. But it's only okay to condemn people because they don't prefer black guys.

 

[LoveIsNow]

I would just like to state that I'm a faggot, nigger, chink, dune coon, Aunt Jemima, Cripple, Gook, job-stealing, tortilla-frying Mexi, Cracker, Kike, Ali Baba Harem Master, Kaffir, redskin Injun Joe, Bender, White Trash, Chinaman, dyke, pencil-neck, jungle bunny, and a wetback, and so are we all.

The bottom line is that we are all humans and if we let small things like skin color or other traits shared by one ethnic group can divide us into different types of people, then we are doomed to continued failure as a species.

I don't see why it's so necessary to declare that we like certain "races" specifically. It's just more categorization we all need just to like whom we like and get over it.

 

[chimere]

I find it funny that it seems to be okay to not like someone because they're fat, or too thin, etc, but when it comes to race it's a no-no! It's the same thing. Regardless of WHO the person is, to each their own. This is such an odd topic because people aren't making sense. It's not okay to be attracted to a specific thing, but it's okay to not be attracted to fat or skinny people.
I'm not attracted to people with a lot of muscles. I'm not attracted to people with long hair. I'm not attracted to people without tattoos. I'm not attracted to people without facial piercings.
Just because someone isn't attracted to black guys doesn't mean they're racist. It also doesn't mean that because they're not attracted to them, that someone maybe down the road they get involved with someone. Shit happens. It's unbelievable the things people judge you on. But it's only okay to condemn people because they don't prefer black guys.

Yeah there is nothing wrong in a world where 9/10 black guys only want white guys and nobody wants the black guys (not even the other black guys) - it's just personal taste!

Yes, so make sure you post on your stupid gay.com profile to save everybody's time and say:
"no fatties, no long hair, no blacks"

Sometimes I hate gay men. In comparison to you queers, most straight guys don't give a shit about race when dating girls.

 

[PlayingwithChance]

Yeah there is nothing wrong in a world where 9/10 black guys only want white guys and nobody wants the black guys (not even the other black guys) - it's just personal taste!

Yes, so make sure you post on your stupid gay.com profile to save everybody's time and say:
"no fatties, no long hair, no blacks"

Sometimes I hate gay men. In comparison to you queers, most straight guys don't give a shit about race when dating girls.

Someone's a bitter queen...

 

[chimere]

Someone's a bitter queen...

what would you know, youre white

 

[youngnihilist]

I sympathize - it's true. Not liking guys with long hair, big muscles (or lack thereof), or body weight is not on the same ballpark as not liking a guy cause he's black.

Let's say your type is slender, toned guys with square jaws and short hair. Technically, a guy of any race can fit that category. So how come if you like guys of those characteristics, and a black guy comes along and fits that profile, you won't like him? Simple - racism - you don't like him (sexually at least) because of his race!

I do understand that you can not be attracted to black guys and still be best buds with black guys and be totally accepting of black people in other settings. But there's still a tinge of racism in you if you wont sleep with a black guy, even if he perfectly fits your usual "type", just because, he's BLACK.

Plain and simple.

 

[bankside]

You'd have to be kind of simple if you never noticed attractive people from every other background.

I have a thing for guys with big arms, and I'm glad to have one for my own. But I'd still notice the hot skinny guys. I just don't get it how people can be so clueless when hotness comes in a colour they aren't used to.

It actually shows how sadly limited some people can be, and it actually shows how rare and wonderful it is to find someone with a brain. To the men who are on the wrong side of some clueless guy's preconceived colour categories, count yourselves lucky. It is because of your colour that you got to skip dating that one.

 

[BabiGayPimp]

This is rather absurd. I've only dated white guys and latin guys. I'm not turned on sexually by Asians. So I'm racist. Cool deal.

Some "asians" are white. Many latin guys are "black." Some "white" guys, particularly in Northern Africa are an interesting racial blend. That's why I'm doubtful when people apply the qualifier "only" to something as complicated and uncertain as race. Just something to think about.

 

[vetterx021]

Choosing not to have sex with someone isn't the same as discriminating against them.

Sex is a very personal experience. We should be able to choose who we want and don't want to have sex with without being labeled "racist."

 

[chimere]

Choosing not to have sex with someone isn't the same as discriminating against them.

Um, yes it is.

"Choosing not to serve someone because of their race isn't the same as discriminating against them."

"Choosing not to talk to someone because of their race isn't the same as discriminating against them."

"Choosing not to X with someone because of their race isn't the same as discriminating against them."

It is discrimination. There is no denial.

Sex is a very personal experience. We should be able to choose who we want and don't want to have sex with without being labeled "racist."

Just because many of you folks see calling somebody a "racist" as a "bad" and "serious" accusation doesn't make it any less false. To see a particular race as unattractive and discount all the members of a racial group is racist, no matter what excuse you come up with.

But at the same time, it's not your fault. It's the fault of the media, your parents, and your upbringing. No one is going to "change" your discriminatory sexual preferences, but to somehow blindlessly think that you aren't discriminating in a sexual way and turn this entire discussion to fluff is stupid.

And I'm not singling you out either. This thread is full of those people. No offense to any South Africans, but you're not going to find many white South Africans finding black South Africans attractive.

 

[irydion]

It has nothing to do with racism. If someone is attracted to blondes, is it racists towards brunettes?

I personaly am attracted primarily to whites, but some members of black and yellow race are cute as well.
I like some body hair - does it make me racist towards yellow race, which, as I hear, has much less of it?

 

[irydion]

race is a theorethical concept.
The point is that a person likes people of a certain look. You may like people who have green eyes. You want your boyfriend to have green eyes, because you like them - does that make you racist, because there aren't any (unless mixed?) black people with green eyes?
Someone may like light skin and european-like face features - that doesn't make him racist. His attitude may have something to do with racism (he may f.e. deny interest in black people, becuase he's racist), but it is not racist per se.

You can not tell someone to start being turned on by a certain look.

Now if someone would not like to have sex with someone looking white, because he'd know that this man's grand-grand-grandma was black, that would be racism.

 

[Guy89]

I'm gonna try real hard to bite my tongue and not comment on this. But I would like to say that this would probably be better off in Hot Topics... Seems like something that would belong there...

Phew, I made it.

 

[Guy89]

Because I don't want to get e-killed for having a differing opinion that it looks like people are pretty pissed about hearing "over and over and over and over and over".

Why even bother expressing myself. Both sides aren't going to change their opinions. They're just going to keep trying to enforce their own and convert people. What's the point. Nobody wins at these things. They just waste a piece of their life.

Nobody ever "enlightens" somebody else, and even if they do the other person never admits it. So really. What's the point?

 

[Guy89]

See? We can't even agree on that. Well it's sort of an agreement (emphasis on sort of) but you still feel the need to pick apart my post. And I didn't even really say anything.

 

[irydion]

The race black does not have one distinct look... so yes it is racist to disregard an entire race. If you said I don't like dark-skinned guys(including middleeastern, latino, indian, black, native-american, mixed, etc.) that would be different.

However, since "black" doesnt necessarily have a distinct look that isnt shared by other races.. it is obviously racist to say you're not into black guys. I don't see how this is explained over and over and over and over by me and other guys in this thread but still people don't get it/are in denial.

Because it is not quite true. Of course, there are dark-skinned members of white race, but never THAT dark as people from Niger or Congo.

I am completely aware that people of black race have different features, that's why I've said I do not mind black people myself. I find You very cute, for example , it's not about skin colour in my case.

But I can very well imagine someone doesn't like black skin colour and I don't find it wrong, just like if a black person wouldn't like white skin with all those icky veins showing from beneath it . Skin colour and face features characteristic to some area / race is just one of many body features, and should be treated as such. I don't think you need any affirmative action in this case.

Like I said, there are few races that have physically distinct colors. There are "white" guys that are dark-skinned, there are Mexicans with slanted eyes, there are black guys with thin noses and lips.

Only a complete moron believes in the idea of physically distinct features for any race.

White guys can get darker, and Italians are darker than, lets say, me, but they will never get as dark as members of black race.
Mexicans with slanted eyes may have something to do with them being mixture of white and yellow (Indians!) race, don't You think?

Nothing is perfect, but there ARE some features characteristic for some race. I know there are blond black people (Salomon Islands), but blond hair is characteristic for white race. I know one can have a Congolese - like nose, but such noses will be more common in Africa. Low pigment eyes, again, are characteristic for white race, as is low pigment skin, and while there are black albinos, that's the way it is.

 

[LoveIsNow]

But I can very well imagine someone doesn't like black skin colour and I don't find it wrong, just like if a black person wouldn't like white skin with all those icky veins showing from beneath it .

Or just like if a white person wouldn't like white skin with all those icky veins showing from beneath it.

 

[irydion]

That doesn't make a lick of sense. Yes, there are dark-skinned blacks but there are also light-skinned blacks so, still, the skin-tone argument doesn't have any merit whatsoever.

If someone doesn't like brown skin, there should still be many black men they find attractive. I know black men who are more light than whites.

You ARE away this is probably because they are mulattos, that is they are bot black, but mixed black and white? You do not find people like this in inner Africa... but in USA, where the blacks in large part aren't "pure" black, but have mixed with people of european origin

Name one feature that is exclusive to black people.

do you deny you can tell a person of subsaharean african origin by his face features?

I am not saying there are features UNIQUE to one race. Au contraire, I've just posted something contrary to that. But there are features characteristic for some race.
For example epicanthic fold for mongoloid (yellow) race. Yes, of course people of mixed race may have it, and I do not exclude possibility someone completely not related to this race may be borned with it (Nuer and Dinka according to wikipedia).

Then they should NOT like blacks who are light-skinned, assuming it's not about race.

If these "blacks" are in fact very lightly-skinned mulattos, and their problem is with a specific skin colour, yes.

 

[vetterx021]

Racism is something that consumes your entire mindset. Sexual preference is just a tiny fraction of that mindset. Not being sexually attracted to someone because of their race doesn't cross over into being completely intolerant and carrying a hatred of that entire race. They're not the same thing.

And no, all people of any given race don't look the same, but many of them have similar features. As human beings, we take that complex and vast array of features and break them down into simplified groups. It's the way our minds work. Are you really implying that the person who made the ad should've said "Men with light skin, straight hair, and Spanish accents only?" Is our society really that politically correct at this point?

Lastly, let's look at the context of this scenario. We're talking about anonymous hookup sites here. Most people go to those with one direct goal in mind, and it's to hookup with an object of fantasy: a jock, an Asian person, a hairy person, a cross-dresser, a guy who's willing to pee on them, whatever that fantasy may be. Just because the person who puts up the ad turns down somebody who DOESN'T fulfill that fantasy for anonymous sex doesn't mean that they'd turn them down for normal sex all the time. Someone can put up an ad asking for only white people, but if Tyson Beckford showed up at their door five minutes later with a box of condoms and lube, they'd probably say yes.

So for the last time, sexual preference is not indicative of someone's overall racial attitude. I don't know why anyone would think it is.