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Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

He's a little weird, but in a very charming, non confrontational way ... I found his site truly eye opening :)

nice find!
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

YOU guys need to understand people a lot more than Mr. Stroud. Well, a little bit more, at least.

Read the WIKI stuff. Or maybe a good autism website.

He's just different. His brain works differently. A little like...."US BOYS"??



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AHH! He's just a freak like everybody else.
We're often fascinated by caves.
He's fascinated by turning the caves inside out!! HA HA!

Maybe Soilwork would like doing something completely different.
A little surreality video!!
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

Now, I'm openly hostile.

He is NOT retarded. If I hear the word again on this thread, you will find yourself at the blistered end of a rather long and pointed tirade about how much harm/pain I've seen that word create firsthand.

He is not A serial killer, nor is he likely to become one. He is AUSTISTIC! There is a lots of well documented information on exactly the things he is doing occuring in people with Autism.

The Mods should shut this damn thread down, as it has become a hate fest for Autistic individuals and is blatantly exploitive. If he had any other form of mental disorder, it would not be allowed for people to treat/discuss him in this way. We would be horrifed, but because he has spent the last years of his life working out and now has a fairly muscled body, he is allowed to become a sexual object?

What about the human pain and doubt he expresses in what he wrote? His struggles at school? Or the teasing he endures? Or even the conflicts with his family?

Does that "make you wanan fuck" him as well? Please stop treating him like a "porn star". He's not. He's a human being who, frankly, should never have been allowed to create this website or to abuse himself in this way. Where are is family? Why have they not allowed him access to groups for people with Aspergers? Or even just freaking got informed about him, so they won't be pushing him out in a work force to mocked and mistreated?

Oh my God. I'm deeply offended by many of these comments, and yes, call me an over reactive prude and drama queen, but I can't stop seeing the faces of friends and co workers in his. A large part of my life has been workign with Autistic people and I'm would personaly go to no limit to try and protect them from the stupid/hatred of others.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

Nice body, average face...
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

I like the videos of him doing tricks best. He may have Asperger Syndrome, but he's also extremely talented.

He's also 19. Does having Asperger Syndrome rob him of the right to do what he wants? I have to say the "Poopies" video upset me, even though I didn't watch it all the way through. And I wrote to him and told him so.

From what I've read (not much) of what he wrote, he was raised in the Unification Church. From what I know of the UC, they aren't likely to be very understanding about Asperger Syndrome, or much of anything.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

No, he's free to do what he wants.

But is he free to self abuse, self harm, self mutilate, and otherwise inflict bodily harm? I question his right to commit those acts against himself.

Yes, he's loosely afflicated with a wacko chruch. Still, he's a person with a soul who deserves a little (oh god, we're using this term on a "Gay" website!) respect.

How can people even make random comments like the ones that are on this page. The callous nature of people sometimes shocks me. I'm not perfect (lord knows) and i've been known to make insenstive posts (lady knows), but still, isn't there some line in the sand where someone is not a sexual object?
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

Check out what section this thread is in. And also check the thread title.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

^
Exactly my point.

It shouldn't be in this section or in this thread.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

You should really get off your high horse.

Most of us originally just saw the pics of a hot guy..... and appreciated it as just that.
As we look into it more - we realise he may not be all that well. Those of us who have looked into it have been quite compassionate to his plight.

We are all SPECULATING that he is mentally ill. You don't know him.... neither do we.
Who the f**k are you to tell us that we should be not be admiring the attractiveness of a hot guy.



ladygrey said:
No, he's free to do what he wants.

But is he free to self abuse, self harm, self mutilate, and otherwise inflict bodily harm? I question his right to commit those acts against himself.

Yes, he's loosely afflicated with a wacko chruch. Still, he's a person with a soul who deserves a little (oh god, we're using this term on a "Gay" website!) respect.

How can people even make random comments like the ones that are on this page. The callous nature of people sometimes shocks me. I'm not perfect (lord knows) and i've been known to make insenstive posts (lady knows), but still, isn't there some line in the sand where someone is not a sexual object?
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Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

ladygrey said:
Yes, he's loosely afflicated with a wacko church.
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I love this typo. It's like you couldn't decide between saying he's affiliated with it and saying he's afflicted with it (like a disease). Given that it's the Unification Church...both are true!

A poetic coinage, even if unintentional. I bow to you.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

^
amusing point.

I do have my moments.

I'm not trying to be a freaking moral high horse. I had the same reaction at first, until I discovered more. I was refering to other (unmentioned for a reason) posts that were vaugely insenstive, etc.

But my main issue is looking at him "Just as hot guy", because I feel it's problematic to be looking at someone whose decision making proccess are disrupted, etc. Yes, he seems to enjoy it....but again, is that healthy for him?

I'm not making any assumption, he clearly states he has Aspergers, and yes, I'm using my experince with working as an educational aide and support worker to make these distinctions, as well as the limited experince of my university classes in psyhcologly and abnormal pshycologly.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, that's not my intention. I'm merely concerned that it is problematic to look at him solely as a sexual object.

and yes, I make many many typos....

it's fun for me.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

I'm backing Ladygrey.
There's nothing wrong with admiring a man and being respectful and sympathetic at the same time. Everything feels better, too.
There's nothing wrong with Eroticism that makes you a better person.
[although it certainly qualifies as a novel idea in most of the world.]


Oh, and autism is NOT considered a mental illness. It is considered to be 'neurologically different.'
Lets say you have one computer, a WintelPC and another, a sort of AlienMac. They have trouble communicating. But, over time, as we understand the differences in "data-processing," communicating gets to be fairly easy.
It takes effort. Worthwhile effort.
Worth while because you learn better about the multi-dimensional way that YOU communicate by taking the effort necessary to relate better to autistic people.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

Kurn, I don't have a normal brain by any stretch of the imagination. I have a talent for communication, though, so it's not so noticeable as it is with Asperger Syndrome (I understand that the trend is away from using the possessive for these named syndromes, so I've begun omitting it), except when, as in this sentence, I obsess over little linguistic details, and manage to write a self-referential sentence at the same time!

Some would call it a talent.

Most people call it just plain weird.

I was much weirder as a child. Well, no, just not nearly as good at concealing my weirdness as I am now. I have ADHD, but that's not the weird part. I overoptimize everything; I know exactly where to stand on the subway platform so I'll be right at the door when the train stops; the door that will be right in front of the stairs or escalator at my stop. I can also eat the same thing for lunch every day for weeks on end without having it bother me at all--then one day suddenly be unable to stomach it.

I hate surprises. I came home from work one time to discover that my then-boyfriend had cleaned our filthy bathroom. I was terribly upset for a few seconds, then grabbed hold of myself and thanked him. That same boyfriend and I shared some vitamins; he tended to group the vitamins he shared with me at one end of the door, whereas I wanted all the vitamins in alphabetical order. We actually argued about this at one point, then we started to laugh, agreed that we were being ridiculous, and who cares anyway?

Then I put the vitamins back in alphabetical order.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

Ladygrey, I respect you for what you are trying to do, but you are, in essence, defining him by his "disability" as well. You mentioned disability theory a few posts back, and you were bang on with the "stare" (I like to think I'm a bit well versed in "othered" theory) but you are falling prey to the same pitfalls...you're focusing only on what makes him different. If these guys want to ogle him the exact same way they look at any other hot naked guy on the internet, who is to tell them they arent allowed? And how is that disrespectful? I'm pretty sure you've probably seen many a naked man as "just a hot guy" so what is it that makes Jamie Stroud any different than say, Brent Everett, or the Fratpad guys? Asperger Syndrome? That's what you keep saying....but pointing out over and over and over again that he has it is akin to the stare. Im not trying to preach or anything, just pointing out something you may have inadvertently been doing.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

^true enough

If I reflect on it, it's rather that his vulerablity, his humanity, his ethos, his intimate nature as a human life, and his naiveity to life called to the wounded me.

The damaged, hurting parts of myself that understand exactly what he means when he talks about climbing up into the space between the roof and the storefloor and just......sitting there for hours.

And I fear for the part of myself, as I cherish that humanity in me. And so, by his revealing a shared point of contact, my fears over myself become projected on him.

Even deeper, I see in him the same loathing and struggle as I see in myself. That makes me fiercely proctedive, stubborn and unrepenting in my unjustified defense.

A part of me wants to protect a part of him, and so I reject seeing him as a seuxal object, as I do not ever see myself as one.

Further, the comments of others on this post are, at times, cruel. Perhaps carelessly so or simply perhaps imagined.....

yet, I see the misunderstanding of others and it reminds me of the misundertandings I live with as.......

And so, in this strange and perhaps unexpected manner,

I made postings that expressed my desire to both shield another from the rejections I know so well and a desire to sustain connection, to not corrupt connection with sexuality....As my way.

I don't make any excuses for that, nor do I truly feel a need to.

As for disablity studies, yes, I am using stare to "other" him. Delibrately. I'd rather he been seen as something "other" and untouchable, than as something human and hurting.

It helps me sleep better at night and it makes me feel more powerful than I truly am. Perhaps that is folly.......

but again, I stress,

one man's porn is another man's pain.

Can we really say that the porn we watch and largely consume unquestioned is all by people who have choices, either economic ones or personal ones. Can we be sure we aren't enabling someones misery? We can't. (And things like finding out that russian soldiers were forced to do porn/prostition, knowing that Westerns travel to other countries and economicly exploit others into the sex trade, etc. certainly suggest that we might be)

And I think reminding people of our tremdous vulrenbility is something of worth, however fragile and wrong my attempt may have been. (nor do I ignore our agency in this thing, and perhaps his website is an expression of agency)
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

A very self-honest post.

I have to say that I, for one, am quite capable of feeling both protective and lustful of someone at the same time. For example, there's a certain young man who I will someday hold in the protective circle of my arms (within the warding circle of my home)--naked in my bed. And I will protect him from all dangers (including the demons inside his head, and there are many), and love him and make love to him.

For me, these things are not at all incompatible. I'm a Wounded Healer too, but my approach to sexuality has always been twin to my approach to healing. If I have lust for someone, I want to make him as happy as a person can be. In bed, I focus on my partner's pleasure, because I get off on getting him off (though I always make sure I get off too). And I always feel protective toward ANYONE I feel lust for. One of the reasons I never saw the Episode Three of Star Wars (besides the bad acting in Episode One and Two)

If I were with Jamie Stroud (unlikely!), I would try to get him to stop hurting himself; I would not be with him at all unless he promised never to eat "poopies" again! I would do everything I could to keep him safe and happy and get him help to the extent he needed it. My True Love is actually mentally ill, and that's my vow to him; I would do the same with whomever I was with.
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

Hmm, I'm not sure why I don't have an edit button for that last post, but the last sentence of the third paragraph should read "One of the reasons I never saw the Episode Three of Star Wars (besides the bad acting in Episode One and Two) was that I couldn't stand to watch an attractive young man being burned and maimed."
 
Re: Jamie Stroud >> This dude needs to be the next big porn star

ladygrey said:
one man's porn is another man's pain.

Can we really say that the porn we watch and largely consume unquestioned is all by people who have choices, either economic ones or personal ones. Can we be sure we aren't enabling someones misery? We can't.
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Brilliantly said.
Apart from taking the blood out of everyone's erection - i ask what on earth you're doing here looking at porn.

I really believe that most people here feel compassion for him WHILE also appreciating the physical attriubutes.
 
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