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Hey man... I was in a similar position as you three years ago when I was nineteen. I've been playing sports my whole life and am what society considers to be masculine as well, though I've never had a straight relationship as you have. If you are ready to tell people, start with those who know you best and who you trust the most, male or female. The first person I told was a good friend of mine. We were at a Christmas party and we had each consumed an excessive amount of alcohol. Sometimes that helps... it all depends on who you are.

The process becomes significantly easier once you've taken that first step, and chances are your friends won't care. You will still be you to them. It might feel awkward for the first few days, and they will surely have some questions, but you'll be fine.
 
Dude, I don't know if you can read minds but what you just wrote is exaclty (and I mean almost to the T...minus sex of anykind on my part) where I am right now:
20, gay, no one knows or as far as I can tell suspects, and dying to find someone to love.

So at least know that you are not alone. After that, I don't know what to say, I havn't built up the courage to take the leap yet either. I don't know what I would do if I lost everyone becuase they found out who I really was.

What I can say, is that I hope that those who really care will stick around when I'm able to tell them. I hope yours do too. If not, I'll have to find ones who will. I suppose thats the leap of faith we have to make.

Sorry that I don't have the answers, but I want to thank you for posting this thread. It took a lot of guts and it resonated with me.

-Stephen
 
^^ I think posing this question might help: Does your sexuality have anything at all to do with the friendships you have developed over the years?
 
Yeah, I'm 20 too. Just made a thread about coming out to my brothers. Besides my brothers no one else knows or probably have no clue.

I was going to suggest something, but I feel that it would be best to follow your mind and heart (cliche I know). I think you would know who to trust. Probably start with one person and work from there.

I found it much easier to be yourself, in the sense that you're trying not to act gay once you told someone. It's like you have said out loud and it's real.

Good Luck to you, you're not alone.
 
Hey. I'm 20, gay, and felt the exact way you do. I came out a year and a half ago as a birthday present for myself. I had to do it. I was tired of being dissatisfied with life. I kinda got to thinking how unfair it is that other (straight) people are born "socially acceptable" and I wasn't. So I decided to make my self acceptable to myself, you know, telling myself that I know who I am. Then I had to tell my best friends.

Advice: Start with 1 person you know will be supportive. Once you take the first step you will feel SO much better.

When you start telling other people be prepared for people not to believe you. That was the most aggravating part for me. I finally had the courage to be honest to my friends, and people didn't believe me. I'm 6'3" 210 muscular. I was never into sports but debated policy in high-school and I was seen as this masculine argumentative authoritative figure. I had plenty of girls what had crushes on me in high school, plenty, but never had sex with them and kinda broke their hearts by turning them all down for no good reason (well, aside from being a closet case). Some might feel crappy, or blame you. They will be alright in the long run. They will find a boyfriend that is cute and rub it in your face, lol. It will be OK.

Obviously, people are going to be like "woah...! are u attracted to me? cuz im not like that u know." Just take it in stride and make a joke. And if they walk away from you, so what. They couldn't handle you. There are plenty of people who would love to know you for you. You obviously resonate with two of us here, you know?

Lastly: Look for friendship before love. I came out looking for love, and in all the wrong places when all I needed was a friend to mature with. Now, how do you find gays that want to be friends? I've found 2 in person and 1 online... I absolutely hated this part. It makes coming out look easy ;)
 
Welcome to JUB forums and congrats on your first post.

Somehow, somewhere, we've gotten this idea that being gay means that you will follow a certain path- that you have to go out and buy every Madonna album, get an emo haircut, throw out all your pleated pants and that you lose the ability to say words with a "S" in them without hissing and lisping.

Most of the time, gay guys are pretty ordinary. They have jobs. They pay their taxes. They have relationships. They have a mortgage.

The problem is that the path isn't as clear for guys like you who don't fit that stereotype of what everyone thinks a gay guy should be. If you were that Madonna-loving fabulous gay guy, you would have a better idea of what to do and where to go.

So, what does a car-loving, jock gay guy do after he comes out? He does the same things that he did before he came out- only he's more honest and open and a hell-of-a-lot less stressed about it.

Chances are that at least one of your trust-worthy guy or girl friends is open-minded liberal and/or has gay friends or family members. Start there by having a heart-to-heart and telling them that you're attracted guys and you're tired of all the lies and pretense. You can then move through the rest of your friends at your leisure or on an as-they-need-to-know basis.

It's going to be weird for a while until you start meeting other gay guys like you. Believe me when I tell you that there are thousands of them out there. It's just that most of them, like you, aren't easy to spot or work very hard at being in the closet.
 
Ok perhaps it's because I've been out for so long but to me personally it's not that big a deal. At the time it was, I was the quiet brooding type I had many girls with crushes on me. I told my best friend at the time that I had a crush on some guy in my choir class, (was in choir but no one suspected i was gay lol) Came out officially and publicly when I was a Freshmen, and then again everytime someone made an anti gay comment.

If this won't work for you then try the method that first came to mind when I read this post. Be yourself, next time you see a hot guy walk by do the whole Nice ass thing, whatever that is for you, and then carry on the conversation. If one of your friends ask where the ass is point to the dude you were checkin out. Let them draw they're own conclusions.

Most important thing is that you are already yourself. Stop leading on the girls, stop fooling around with em, unless your bi in which fuck em til they're eyes loll up into their head ;D If you don't want to do a formal announcement, then do it subtly as in the second paragraph. Don't worry so much about other peoples reactions, as long as you don't rape em next time you guys get drunk your good. :P
 
I think a lot of my guy friends aren't going to take me seriously at first. We joke around a lot by making gay comments to one another, jokingly touching each other, and stupid shit like that. I don't get offended by gay jokes, and I even make them a lot. I call my buddies homos and shit like that, but we mean it more in the way as a synonym for stupid. So their not going to get it at first, but I'm worried about what their going to think once they realize I'm being serious. I can easily see them over-thinking all the ass smacks, joking back rubs, and crotch grabs.

But none of my friendship have anything to do with my sexuality, but I only wish that was the only issue. I know what your trying to say and have even thought about that, but I doubt that my friends are going to think that rationally. Their going to be worried about their image and what outsiders are going to think about them when they hang out with a gay guy. It's a stupid crap but I know thats exactly how their going to rationalize it all.


Everything you're thinking, I've gone through. One of my friends, though I told him I was gay almost 9 months ago and have had other friends tell him I am gay, still thinks I'm playing a joke on him. I don't understand why, but I know he'll eventually realize it isn't a joke. I used to joke around like you do with my friends, calling each other gay and shit like that. I stopped doing that when I came out and started to realize how derogatory a term it can be taken as.

I think you'd be surprised as to how well most of your friends would take it.
 
To me it's a huge deal! I really don't know how some of you guys do it!

I'm almost dead set on telling my aunt first and then taking it from there. Maybe the next person will be one of my buddies who has an older sister who is openly gay. I dunno but I feel like I have to do it soon or I'm going to explode.

And the whole telling my friends I think that guy that just walked by has a nice ass, I wish I had the courage to do that.

It won't be that big a deal for you in 6 or 7 years. :D I did put the disclaimer on my statement right? I've been out for awhile. I actually had people who teased me in elementary and middle school for being gay come up to me and go ' Dude I'm sorry I didn't know you were really gay' Always told em 'sok I didn't either' :P it's a lie I always knew just didn't always have the word for it.

The whole nice ass thing is for new people that come into your group of friends, it's rarely something to do unless you're an uber bold person who doesn't fear rejection from anyone for any reason.

But none of my friendship have anything to do with my sexuality, but I only wish that was the only issue. I know what your trying to say and have even thought about that, but I doubt that my friends are going to think that rationally. Their going to be worried about their image and what outsiders are going to think about them when they hang out with a gay guy. It's a stupid crap but I know thats exactly how their going to rationalize it all.

Really are you worried about people who are so worried about what other people that they don't even know are going to say about them for hanging around you? Being gay isn't contagious as far as science can tell. If it was I'd be coughin on alot of hotties. However you say you know how they are going to rationalize/react, so plan your coming out accordingly. You know how to get them to take you seriously, you know how to put them at ease, now's the time to put all that information to good use, so that they take the news as well as can be expected.

Good Luck.
 
Are there any young adult gay clubs that meet in your area? They can be listed in your local gay papers or located thru a gay community social services organization. That would be a way to talk to openly gay people face to face before going on to talk with your friends and family.
 
To me it's a huge deal! I really don't know how some of you guys do it!

It's because you see it as something that is going to separate you from the world that you know.

The reality is that you're already gay and it hasn't stopped you from enjoying cars and your friends. What changes when you come out is that you can just let down your guard and be yourself.

The best analogy is that after holding all that tension that comes with being in the closet, you can exhale. And you can check out that hot guy's ass without worrying about whether your friends will notice. :D
 
You gotta let me know when he finally realizes it's not a joke!

I'm thinking that I'll probably remind him sometime soon and see what he says. As recently as this winter break he was trying to talk to me about hot girls on tv... I just sort of looked at him funny. There's a good chance he realizes it is not a joke, but might think its some phase that I'll get over, because, you know, that's possible.


Let us know what happens when you inform a friend.
 
I have to admit I chickened out when it came to telling friends. I told my best female friend and she was completely cool with it (of course she didn't believe me at first and then once she believed me she tried to set me up with a gay friend of hers). I started to tell one of my best buds, but I could tell he was starting to freak out so I kinda made a joke about it to throw him off. But in the next couple days I was sitting in front of my school and one of his friends sat next to me and but his arm around me like I was a girl. I never confronted my friend about it and it could have been a coincidence or something innocent that I read too much into, but that was the nightmare scenario. And after that I kept my mouth shut.

But what I did instead was go out and make gay friends and that was so liberating. It was as if there was this whole new parallel world that had been invisible. I was lucky enough to be in school in Boston because I was able to go to gay parties at other campuses instead of hitting bars. It was as wonderful and my only thought was that I wished that I had done it sooner. So there are different ways to "come out."
 
ive been having the same kind of issues, i act straight and everything that has been already said, i just cant seem to pull the trigger.

luckilly my uncle is gay and im planning on that 1st step soon, but i mean i look at the industries i would like to get into and they are heavily straight male dominated. i can only imagine how hard it will be to break though anything if i come out of the closet. but i guess thats going to be part of the challenge...to break people's stereotypes.

good luck to you though bro im sure once we get over that 1st person its gonna be easy.
 
As others have hinted, the entire reason for coming out isn't for some sort of "gay solidarity" reasons, or because you want to have a rainbow sticker on your car. It's so you can get beyond the "hoping they don't find out", the "what do I say if they ask" bullshit. Once you're out, you're out. Your friends know, and I'm betting they all don't care much. There may be a small period of adjustment as they get used to the idea, but after that, it's like nothing happened. And you can talk about your boyfriend or that hot guy at the club the same way your friends talk about their girlfriends and the hot girls at THEIR club, and life goes on. :)

Lex
 
luckilly my uncle is gay and im planning on that 1st step soon, but i mean i look at the industries i would like to get into and they are heavily straight male dominated. i can only imagine how hard it will be to break though anything if i come out of the closet. but i guess thats going to be part of the challenge...to break people's stereotypes.

Just because the gays at the top aren't out yet doesn't mean that they aren't there. But at the time it wasn't practical for them to come out. And honestly unless your going into politics or some uber high up government office your job is totally seperate from your personal life. If you aren't comfortable coming out at work for whatever reason then don't, it's none of their business. Well as long as you don't rape the hot guys that walk in.... but that's a whole nother tomatoe. Stop looking at the world in terms of gay and straight, because bottom line you don't know what someone is. There are straight guys that mess around with dudes because they don't wanna let they're wife or gf know they like having their prostate massaged. And there are gay dudes that are married and have kids. Unless you know the person intimately and I mean down to their genetic structure intimately you can't say one way or the other definitively that they are gay/str8/bi/trans/questioning. Just because they don't broadcast their bed mates to the world doesn't mean anything.

k that kinda devolved into a rant sorry about that :D

fire, it's only a big deal to the person who is coming out because we make it that way. We spend so much time obsessing about the way our friends and family will react. In some cases we draw up "escape plans" so to speak. We plan out the conversation, we predict what they will do and say to the point that we could probably convince someone that we had, had the conversation already. This build up of emotions and thoughts, and planning is what causes people to freak out, or in alot of cases blurt something out that the people around us weren't ready for. Chillax. Write their names on a dart board and resolve yourself to telling whoever the dart lands on. If you can just 'pull the trigger' as student put it, that first time, each consecutive 'coming out' gets easier. Maybe do it all at once. Have a party, get em all together, and be like guess what... lol. Least that way friends of friends or people that you haven't told won't get some garbled version of the coming out speech I'm sure you have prepared.
 
I'm 43 and have been out for about 15 years. I wish I had come out much earlier. I look back on things and think of all the things I missed out on. If you are at the point in your life where you HAVE to tell someone because you cant stand it any more, do it. You are going to find out that finding the first person to tell might be hard, and you will probably have a couple of bumps along the way with your "friends", but its not worth living a lie so your friends can be protected. Be true to yourself and you'll find out that things will eventually fall into place. I remember how scared I was to come out to myself (even though I've known since at least junior high) but it seems like you've already passed this stage. To me, this was the hardest stage of the process. Once you tell the first person and its off your shoulders, it makes it easier and easier each time. Good luck on finding the right person to tell first and I hope you are able to look back on this in a couple of months and wonder why you were so worried about it.
 
yea.. keep in mind there a lot hiding out there in the closet, there's probably someone you know that you'd never guess was in the closet, but they will hide. So you have to keep in mind there are so many hiding out there. and i've heard a similar story of this one a bunchh of times, a stereotypical straight guy stressing out about coming out, you are not alone. And you coming out does a service to those people out there too, your helping other stereotypically straight looking jocks that have been thinking about being with men and are curious but are scared to say to themselves they can do it, but they can look at you, whether its one member on here or two people you know, your still doing a great thing for others and yourself!
One more person that ppl can say well if he can do it.. so i can i. You have the power to give that strength. Plus, you are one more person that will break down the gay stereotype. And once you come out, be strong, because if you are confident that is me and so what. Don't make a big a deal out of it (because its not) there's some a big stigma behind the word "Gay" as its linked with all these other things, but were all more equal than society has showed us to be dominant. Symetrical looks, light eyes, heterosexual couples, skinny, marriage is neccessary, all "in" according to society, but fuck that.. why are there these unwritten rules? Truth is some white guy in some office somewhere behind a billion dollar company makes these rules ( i took media at my university this year and was astounded when hearing this) and story lines to shows and movies owned by the same company are edited to make it more "suitable" for what THEY think is a good message and story for all.. And many buy into it, but who could blame them, these images are everywhere of rings being put on women's fingers, women as sexual objects, men having all the power, but are men and women really all that different underneath it all? i really dont think so. Sexuality labels, like gay, straight and bisexuality were even created, there's no real definition because everyones interpertation of them is different. But people enjoy labels because we all like to be put in categories, it helps us better identify ourselves with ourselves and other people. "Men liking men" is one interpretation of the word "gay" but if you said both of those terms to a group of people, their reactions would probably be different to both terms because gay is such a loaded word. My point, don't propose you wanting to be with a guy like its a big deal because you think you are different, because you really are not different. Your more alike everyone else than you think.

Like men and woman, underneath it all were not all that different as ads, media, gender us to be. Were all human, and thats all there is to it. If your friends get wierd about it, fuck that, cuz thats THEIR issue and THEIR ignorance on the topic. And we all get scared about what others will think because we can't expect them to have full knowledge on a topic. And a lot of the time, i have not found many people in the world who understand sexuality, there are a bunch of stereotypes and it makes some people uncomfortable and some ppl don't even know why it makes them uneasy, but it seems to be a touchy subject for some. But it's their un-education about the men liking men topic that will make them form opinions and judgments, so you can educate them if they react as if they have something against you because of it, make a joke about it. So your "straight" friends want and are going along with what society has shown the country is the dominant way of life.. so, they take what they are fed if they react badly to you. Good luck on your friends being accepting, but believe me, its worth it just to come out! Don't put your heart through lies, thats no fun for anyone involved..the girls, you, your friends. Enjoy what you want to enjoy, fuck whoever has something to say about it, they are just wasting your time if they don;t like it, because who are they to say anything? They are in no way better than you or anyone..


and with the girls you've been with sexually, tell them you always knew you were, but were scared.

Good luck. Ahh i normally don't write that much to someone's post, but this one hit home as I know some people closeted.
 
Just because the gays at the top aren't out yet doesn't mean that they aren't there. But at the time it wasn't practical for them to come out. And honestly unless your going into politics or some uber high up government office your job is totally seperate from your personal life. If you aren't comfortable coming out at work for whatever reason then don't, it's none of their business. Well as long as you don't rape the hot guys that walk in.... but that's a whole nother tomatoe. Stop looking at the world in terms of gay and straight, because bottom line you don't know what someone is. There are straight guys that mess around with dudes because they don't wanna let they're wife or gf know they like having their prostate massaged. And there are gay dudes that are married and have kids. Unless you know the person intimately and I mean down to their genetic structure intimately you can't say one way or the other definitively that they are gay/str8/bi/trans/questioning. Just because they don't broadcast their bed mates to the world doesn't mean anything.

(!) totally agree with this whole post. That was a shorter version of what I was trying to say but couldn't find the words. (*8*)
 
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