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Real Caesar Salad

EddMarkStarr

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The Original Caesar Salad, created in 1924 by Caesar Cardini at the Hotel Caesars in Tijuana, Mexico.


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Yum.

It really is a great and simple recipe. I love it with some grilled chicken breast strips. You can add some large grilled shrimp or sliced steak as well for a main entree.
 
I thought I remember someone saying that Cardini had grilled the lettuce first, or maybe soon thereafter added that variation.

If he did, it would certainly make sense with the Mexican love of grilling every sort of vegetable.

Google says no, so maybe some enterprising chef started that back in the 90's when grilling vegetables invaded U.S. restaurants broadly.
 
LilBit said:
The first time I got a Caesar salad with a whole-ass anchovy on top, I literally screamed.
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As far as I've read the original recipe did not have anchovies. Some recipes and restaurants added them at some point.

But they are supposed to disintegrate into the dressing.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
I thought I remember someone saying that Cardini had grilled the lettuce first, or maybe soon thereafter added that variation.

If he did, it would certainly make sense with the Mexican love of grilling every sort of vegetable.

Google says no, so maybe some enterprising chef started that back in the 90's when grilling vegetables invaded U.S. restaurants broadly.
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It almost seems to beg for a few flourishes and add-ons. Strips of grilled chicken on top sounds good to me. It's pretty with the whole romaine lettuce but I prefer my lettuce shredded.
 
fabulouslyghetto said:
on purpose or the cook for that station was rushing and being inattentive? i once had a few shreds of lettuce served with my personal pizza.
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It was a fancy restaurant, and I guess they thought it would be a lovely garnish.

I thought it was a damn roach.
 
EddMarkStarr said:
It almost seems to beg for a few flourishes and add-ons. Strips of grilled chicken on top sounds good to me. It's pretty with the whole romaine lettuce but I prefer my lettuce shredded.
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I can understand that (literal) hunger, but I am a slight bit of a purist in asserting that the salad is complete in its original form as a salad. The habit of ramping up a salad into an entree is fairly recent. Salads as a course in a full meal are intentionally light, else they spoil the main course by dulling the appetite.

Funny on the shred. I will literally go hungry before eatitng shredded lettuce, as the texture is anathema to me, as the chew appeal of lettuce becomes annoyance at shreds traveling about my gums where I don't want them. A country buffet I love up the road from me is good for general fare, but recently went to shredded lettus on the bar, and it's the only greens choice.

That said, we each get to order to our own taste, so the next time we dine, I'll keep my shred aversions to myself. :D
 
fabulouslyghetto said:
bij whatchu doin in a fancy restaurant? you too good for Applebees now heaux?
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I remember a time when I had lunch with my father, and he insisted on Applebees, because his wife refused to ever go there. What wasn't good enough for his wife was apparently good enough for his one and only son... :cry:
 
NotHardUp1 said:
I can understand that (literal) hunger, but I am a slight bit of a purist in asserting that the salad is complete in its original form as a salad. The habit of ramping up a salad into an entree is fairly recent. Salads as a course in a full meal are intentionally light, else they spoil the main course by dulling the appetite.
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Or they are light because one has just finished a main course. With one approach to meals--preferred by Miss Manners, at least at one time--had the salad after the main course for more formal dining. I think she even had some rant about the "salad first" approach being something invented by restaurants and then copied by people who thought (incorrectly, in Miss Manners' view) that if restaurants did it, it must be the right way to do it.
 
Interesting to see that the Caesar salad was invented by someone named Caesar.

When I see that name, I first think of the Roman emperor... Too bad the salad isn't named after him. We could have fun making jokes about the salad that came, saw, and conquered the dinner table.
 
me203 said:
Or they are light because one has just finished a main course. With one approach to meals--preferred by Miss Manners, at least at one time--had the salad after the main course for more formal dining. I think she even had some rant about the "salad first" approach being something invented by restaurants and then copied by people who thought (incorrectly, in Miss Manners' view) that if restaurants did it, it must be the right way to do it.
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Salads as culinary courses differ substantially from salads as nutritional fare.

Salads actually work better earlier in the series as they effectively stimulate appetite and can aid in digestion.

We view salads now as health foods, so putting them after the main course significantly reduces the number of eaters who would skip them because they are sated.

I can't tell you the number of times I've gone out with friends or co-workers to dine and they skipped dessert for that reason.


me203 said:
Interesting to see that the Caesar salad was invented by someone named Caesar.

When I see that name, I first think of the Roman emperor... Too bad the salad isn't named after him. We could have fun making jokes about the salad that came, saw, and conquered the dinner table.
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Yeah. He was even of Italian extraction, so at least descended from the Caesars.
 
NotHardUp1 said:
Salads actually work better earlier in the series as they effectively stimulate appetite and can aid in digestion.
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I can imagine there are plenty of practical reasons to do salads first, whether entertaining at home or running a restaurant. Miss Manners view is based on her view of etiquette. I liked her ideas back when I allowed myself to have fantasies of having elegant little dinner parties "one day." Now, years later, I figure there is a good chance those elegant little dinner parties have as much chance of occurring as me getting that wine cellar I discussed a few weeks ago. In the perhaps unlikely event I ever cook any meal for someone else again, it probably would be a low key and informal affair--and I could see doing the salad first and skipping a soup course.
 
me203 said:
I can imagine there are plenty of practical reasons to do salads first, whether entertaining at home or running a restaurant. Miss Manners view is based on her view of etiquette. I liked her ideas back when I allowed myself to have fantasies of having elegant little dinner parties "one day." Now, years later, I figure there is a good chance those elegant little dinner parties have as much chance of occurring as me getting that wine cellar I discussed a few weeks ago. In the perhaps unlikely event I ever cook any meal for someone else again, it probably would be a low key and informal affair--and I could see doing the salad first and skipping a soup course.
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I used to read Miss Manners occasionally when print news was a thing, but I have to sometimes wonder if some things were said to be controversial or even contrarian. That said, it was normally just an updating of what's acceptable.

On dinner parties, I hosted a few, but I'd argue that "elegant" doesn't have to mean expensive or formal, per se. The simplest things make a dinner special. First of all, in this day and age of take out and eating out, the simple fact that someone goes to the bother of hosting you is special all in itself. I've even taken full meals out to others, especially if he or they didn't cook, or if they had children, so were not as able to go out easily.

And serving chicken and dumplings or grilled cheese is just as wonderful as Beef Wellington, as the standard is simply doing well whatever is being done. Simple fare? Well, follow it with simply elegant pot de creme or similar, and play on the theme of simple, yet elegant. I assure you they will praise it and remember it forever. Do your plates seem too humble or your glassware everyday. Stick a vine and a flower in a bud vase and a cloth in your table, and suddenly everything is different.

I promise you, you'll enjoy hosting again even more than your guests enjoy being pampered. And if you need a couple of plates or napkins, all that is cheap at a thrift store.

Sorry to play Miss Manners here, but you shouldn't yearn for what is within your grasp. You enjoy hosting, so DO it!
 
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