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Real ID & Star ID

NotHardUp1

NotHardUp1

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As the deadline has passed, but I don't fly much these days, I have been preparing to go get a Star ID at the local law enforcement agency.

So, after gathering all the documents, I read up online. I was all ready to go tomorrow to get it, and then I read that they are not transferrable if you move to another state.

WHUT?

The WHOLE purpose of the system is to verify your identity, and get the Star-bellied Sneech logo, so you have evidence you have provided authentification. But now, after going to the extra effort, waiting in long lines, and paying higher fees, they declare it will be invalid the minute you show up at the next state when you move.

WHY?

What a racket. The standards were agreed to be national. But they are going to not recognize them as they do driver's licenses.

So, with my plan to move by the end of fall, I decided not to go.

But, reading on, because my passport expired last year, I see that TSA will accept expired passports that are less than two years gone. And, I looked up whether I needed to make an appointment at the USPO to renew my passport and learned they finally allow them to be renewed online.

WOO HOOOOO!!!

Read the long list of conditions required to qualify for online renewal. MORE good news. They will allow you if your expired passport is less than five years gone.

Finally something not insane.

What about you? Do you have a Real ID or Star ID if you are American? As far as I can tell, it's a waste compared to a passport, plus the passport lasts longer.
 
I upgraded to a Real ID a couple months ago. I had to renew my licenses anyway so I did it just in case I fly again. Cost me $30 for the Real ID and because I am an idiot and couldn't find my birth certificate it cost me another $47 for another BC. Of course after I paid I found the two copies I already had.
 
They sent a letter for my last d/l renewal. I was to take a birth cert and some other things, like a utility bill. To get a "real ID". I showed up and told the guy I didn't bring any of that stuff because I gave a birth cert when I got my learner's permit way back in 1974 or '75, I forget when. But I have my passport if you want.
It was all cool, he said we already have your information.
So I have a star on my d/l anyway. Big deal, I have no intention of getting on an airplane..... mostly because where would I go?
It didn't cost extra.
 
As a non-American I'm not familiar with this system. In the UK, internal flights and flights to the Irish Republic technically don't require passports, but it's so much easier to travel with one that I wouldn't ever travel without and have to bugger about with other forms of ID.
 
It has been in the news since the cutover date requiring it was May 7th, for a law that mandated it in 2007.

But, so many states slow rolled it, the TSA is having to make exceptions, else the airlines might start disappearing agents.

My last passport only had one stamp, from 2017 when I went to Cancun with a friend who used to post here. Go figure. I intend to use the next one lots more, if any countries still will let Americans in.
 
"Real ID" is bullshit. It's "passport light" theater. I think the push came after 9/11 and "we gotta fight terrerism!". A standard driver license should be enough for domestic flights.
Think of it for a moment. The dudes that flew into the WTC towers had passports. What would a Real ID have done?
 
I do have a real id drivers license I got when I renewed my drivers license last year. I also have a passport I haven't used for a few years.
 
One of the few advantages of being poor, white trash is that I don't need to worry about flight requirements, since I can't afford a vacation.
 
I don't have a Real ID, of all the requirements, my passport would not count which I found funny. I had gone to renew my drivers license 2 years ago(it had expired by 5 days), documents were required, i went home to get the documents, but one of them I brought was my passport. Nope on the passport for identification, but ok for getting on a plane and a federal building. I just got the regular drivers license.
 
I've got both passport and Real ID. The DMV offices on this eastern side of Pennsylvania are usually crowded with long waits. I took my documents with me two years ago on a trip to Pittsburgh and got my Real ID quickly from the lovely folks at the Bridgeville office.

The birth certificate I used to get my Real ID was a "short-form" kind. It was NOT acceptable when I went to get my passport! I had to get the "long-form" kind from the Department of Vital Records.
 
The State of Washington continues to insist that the WA Enhanced Driver's License meets the requirements of Real ID. The silence from TSA speaks louder.

Here is the information from the Sate of Washington website:

REAL ID - Washington State Department of Licensing - | WA.gov​



The enhanced driver license/ID is Washington's REAL ID-compliant form of identification. Many other states have chosen to offer a REAL ID card with a star .
 
It has become easier and easier in Canada to get a passport renewed so that remains our preferred ID to carry when travelling.

This is what we need from US citizens to enter Canada:

Documents You Need to Cross the Border | ezbordercrossing.com

Explanation of documents you can use at the US Canada border. Passport, Passport Card, Global Entry, Enhanced Driver License, Real ID, NEXUS, FAST and more.
www.ezbordercrossing.com www.ezbordercrossing.com

Increasingly, one of the concerns that travellers to the US have is that the forms of ID that can be used at the border may become problematic and flagged because of race and origin. As travel declines between the US and Canada, this may become more the case. A passport would be the only ID I would use to enter the US at this point because nationality really can't be challenged.

Give it time though, eventually US states will start demanding ID for any interstate travel as they ratchet up the surveillance state and don't want people from poor red states possibly turning up and living off the
blue states or vice versa where the red states want to keep the socialist, trans loving perverts out of their state. Or women travelling by vehicle for abortions out of state.
 
rareboy said:
It has become easier and easier in Canada to get a passport renewed so that remains our preferred ID to carry when travelling.

This is what we need from US citizens to enter Canada:

Documents You Need to Cross the Border | ezbordercrossing.com

Explanation of documents you can use at the US Canada border. Passport, Passport Card, Global Entry, Enhanced Driver License, Real ID, NEXUS, FAST and more.
www.ezbordercrossing.com www.ezbordercrossing.com

Increasingly, one of the concerns that travellers to the US have is that the forms of ID that can be used at the border may become problematic and flagged because of race and origin. As travel declines between the US and Canada, this may become more the case. A passport would be the only ID I would use to enter the US at this point because nationality really can't be challenged.

Give it time though, eventually US states will start demanding ID for any interstate travel as they ratchet up the surveillance state and don't want people from poor red states possibly turning up and living off the
blue states or vice versa where the red states want to keep the socialist, trans loving perverts out of their state. Or women travelling by vehicle for abortions out of state.
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The Constitution does not allow states to restrict movement within the country, unless for some individual criminal matter. I know, it doesn't mean they might not try. But if states started to require passports, visas, or other papers to cross their border, or make laws saying you can't travel to another state for some reason, that would be grossly unconstitutional. Again, I know, it doesn't mean SCOTUS wouldn't break their backs twisting themselves into pretzels to find a way around it. But the plain Constitutional understanding, for the last almost 250 years, is unrestricted travel across state borders.
 
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