Recent smear campaign against gay candidate in the Dem party exposes homophobia among our allies

[Dominus]

Morse supporters call for investigation into reports that allegations were engineered (The Hill; August 13, 2020)

Read about it there. In short, supporters of Richie Neal came up with a smear campaign against his challenger Mayor Alex Morse, an openly gay man. They attempted to sink his campaign by allegation of sexual misconduct. Specifically the fact that he had a profile on Grindr and Tinder. That's it. As soon as the allegation came to light, groups previously backing Morse started their exodus away from him.

This reminded me of 2 people: My friend's mom and my husband's aunt.

One time, my friend's mom and her husband went away for a long weekend. My friend invited us to spend the weekend there because she had to stay there to watch the dogs. We treated it like a weekend getaway. My husband and I stayed in one bedroom, my friend and her boyfriend stayed in another, and her sister and husband stayed in another. We had a fun, relaxing weekend.

Later, my friend called me up and said her mom was absolutely furious about letting my husband and I sleep together in her house. Made her feel like it was a brothel. I was puzzled because her mom was always all friendly and supportive of us.

And then there is my husband's aunt. She had this rule: if we ever stayed over at her place we couldn't sleep in the same room together. She insists that she is very gay friendly and that she applies this rule to everyone. She claims that letting people sleeping in the same room made her feel like her house was a whore house. Turned out my husband's brother has had his girlfriends over many times and they were able to sleep in the same room together.

i have always suspected that many of our "straight allies" are our allies out of political correctness. Deep down, they really want us to be celibate. The only difference between them and right wingers is they try to pretend to be gay-friendly. God forbid, they find out we actually have a sexuality.

The smear campaign against Morse exposed this part of our straight allies psyche. As soon as they found out he's got a grindr and tinder profile, OMG he's a sexual being! Gotta distance themselves from him ASAP because he's not celibate!

I'm just saying. They claim to support us. But only if we pretend to be celibate around them.

 

[Pierresro]

MY partner and I have been together for 43 years, we always said to other gays we knew. The peole that LOve you will be the same when you come out if they are anything like what you describe I would never speak to them again not even go to there fucking funeral. Take a deep creath and never see them again do not let it get to you you can not change them do not bother. I have a Brother when he found out I was gay he never spoke to me again. I could care less!

 

[bendted]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...r-investigation-into-reports-allegations-were



i have always suspected that many of our "straight allies" are our allies out of political correctness. Deep down, they really want us to be celibate. The only difference between them and right wingers is they try to pretend to be gay-friendly. God forbid, they find out we actually have a sexuality.

They claim to support us. But only if we pretend to be celibate around them.

Oh God yes, this exactly. I think it was Barney Frank who said that people had contempt for him as a suspected gay, but when he came out, he felt the same hate by them for his "lifestyle choice." Can't win with these fucking breeders and I don't even try. They are not worth it.

 

[gsdx]

Okay, what are we supposed to be upset about? One small paragraph about a gay mayoral candidate getting smeared by homophobes or 7 paragraphs about you?

 

[Dominus]

Okay, what are we supposed to be upset about? One small paragraph about a gay mayoral candidate getting smeared by homophobes or 7 paragraphs about you?

Are you saying we cannot use our personal experience to draw a bigger picture?

I have said this many times before. I cannot speak for other people because I am not other people. I have one perspective: my own. And in my experience, even our straight allies are homophobic. I don't think they even know it. We can see that they are homophobic by insisting that we remain celibate and not have a sexuality all the while claiming to support our right to be gay and out of the closet.

My personal experience aligns with what this gay mayor experienced. He had many allies. Many supporters. Many organizations endorsing him. And then they found out he actually had a dating life. And they had a mass exodus away from him because *gasp* he's had completely consensual relationships with other consenting adults.

To me, the homophobes within our supposedly tolerant democratic party inadvertently showed their true color. They claimed to support a gay candidate out of political correctness. And as soon as they found out he actually had a sexuality, they ran for the door.

Am I not allow to draw comparison of this very public event to my personal life? My husband and I are married. We have straight allies that claim to support us but are uncomfortable with the fact that we actually sleep with each other. Some have gone as far as barring us from sleeping in the same room together if we ever sleep over at their place. Of course they won't admit they are homophobic. They always use some other excuse. But can anyone imagine making up such BS rule for married straight couple?

The main question is this. Are our straight allies really our allies if they are ok with us being gay as long as we remain celibate?

 

[frankfrank]

I'm all-in with aristomaniac on this one. There is NOTHING wrong with him describing his experiences, which highlights this isn't merely a political or opportunistic anomaly, but is (or can be) present for ALL of us.

I appreciate your OP, man...and, yes, it was "about you"...AND ABOUT **ALL OF US**.

 

[Dominus]

Here is more development on this.

https://www.gaycitynews.com/alex-morse-attacks-democratic-leaders/

Despite the fact that the main stream press have uncovered the smear campaign, the people behind it continue to push ahead. They are really trying to exploit the innate homophobic nature of people by keep reminding them that Morse has a personal sex life.

Regardless of the outcome, we now know just bow vulnerable lgbt candidates are to smear campaign. Our straight allies aren't happy unless we pretend to be celibate.

 

[mcbrion]

I'm glad you said "many" and not "ALL." Story Time!

When I was 24, I bought my first lover, Jim, home (where my mom lived and where I grew up) for the evening. (Daddy had died 4 years before) I don't recall if it was Jim's first time there or not.

That night, while Jim was over, we decided to watch tv. He was on the sofa, I, on the floor, sitting between his legs. Nothing whatsoever going on. Mom came thru the living room and glanced at us. I know my mom, and I saw "the look."

I followed her to her room and said, "you have something to say?" And she said, "You save 'that kind of thing' for the bedroom.'" And I said, "WHAT 'kind of thing', ma? Sitting on the floor between his legs?? Didn't Karen sit between your legs on the floor when you were braiding her hair?" "Well, that's different. She's my daughter." "And he's my lover. There's no difference. So don't you ever say that to me again. If company was here, I wouldn't be doing that. But it's just "us." You, me, Jim. Nobody else. And I'm not changing what you taught us. You knew I was gay when I was 11: I told you and daddy. A little late for you to get all uptight now. You raised me with manners. If you hadn't, I might've been necking with him in public - like your sister does (aunt G was 55 by this time). So don't get smart with me, OK?"

And after that, all was calm, all was bright. One thing about my mom: when confronted with the truth, the facts and a history of other times a behavior had been demonstrated, she acknowledged it and adjusted. She was NOT a hypocrite.

And when AIDS happened, and the church organist (who was gay) got sick, Mom went to visit him and took him flowers and vegetables. The ladies of the church told her she was brave and wasn't she afraid of getting it? Her response? "That's not how you get it, you stupes! (her pet word for "idiots"!) Don't you know anything?!?" (And now you know where my directness comes from.) Fair's fair and honor's honor. And it applied to everyone in my (mom, dad, me, my brother and sister) family. AT ALL TIMES. No matter what the situation was. Some allies ARE allies, no matter what. And no matter how (momentarily) uncomfortable it might be for them. That's how change happens. They have to see it. They have to see the hugs, the kisses, the embraces, the longgg kisses and then the look of joy between two people in Love.



Sorry your friend's family is hypocritical. Bad luck, old chap.

 

[TX-Beau]

The first time I brought guy home, a good third of my family attempted to banish us and there was a plot to bash the fuck out of him in the barn. There would have been no attempted assaults had I brought home Black woman, but the attempted banishment would still have occurred.

If you live somewhere like Iran, Gods, all of them, please help you.

I also have no fucking clue what the OP is about.

 

[Latimer]

My take on this was that had he been straight, he would have been accused of improper relationships with women. We're in the final throes of #MeToo, but it can still be used against someone of either sex and any serial preference.

 

[Dominus]

Update on this. Alex Morse lost his bid. The smear campaign against him worked. The moment they pointed out that he had a dating life, his allies ran away from him. This is why I don't trust our straight allies. Many of them describe themselves as our allies only if we pretend to be celibate.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/09/...ssional-bid-homophobia-grindr-smear-campaign/

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/08/...campaign-alex-morse-university-massachusetts/

Edit.

I'll be direct. I have political ambitions. I'd like to see how our supposed allies in all of this attack me considering husband and I have been together for almost a decade now? Perhaps they will publish an article saying husband and I sleep in the same bed?

College dems can go eff themselves.