Republicans After Shutdown Seen Losing Again Defying Immigration

[rareboy]

I would just note that it has been pointed out that the large percentage of illegal immigrants in the US arrive by plane.

And overstay their visas.

That is going to be a very tall fence.

 

[Alnitak]

I would just note that it has been pointed out that the large percentage of illegal immigrants in the US arrive by plane.

And overstay their visas.

That is going to be a very tall fence.

The right doesn't complain about Europeans or Canadians.

Benvolio has already explained why. Race.

 

[Jack Springer]

^^^

.... what are you drinking or smoking?

 

[Alnitak]

^^^

.... what are you drinking or smoking?

It's so interesting when you point to the solution for illegal immigration - border control. What do you mean when you say "border state?" Certainly you don't mean the Canadian border.
What you really mean is to keep Mexicans out. Benvolio is actually explicit on that point and totally unapologetic about his white supremacist views.

 

[White Eagle]

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I really hate to bring this up, but didn't the territory that is now Texas once belong to Mexico? Just askin'.

You studied Texas history?

 

[White Eagle]

And before that it belonged to various tribes of natives.

Yes, Lipan Apache in part of it. Get out of my state!

 

[CowboyBob]

It's so interesting when you point to the solution for illegal immigration - border control. What do you mean when you say "border state?" Certainly you don't mean the Canadian border.
What you really mean is to keep Mexicans out. Benvolio is actually explicit on that point and totally unapologetic about his white supremacist views.

If we had stricter border controls with Canada, Rafael Cruz may have not entered the USA only to shut it down and cost billions of dollars.

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.... what are you drinking or smoking?

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[Jack Springer]

It's so interesting when you point to the solution for illegal immigration - border control. What do you mean when you say "border state?" Certainly you don't mean the Canadian border.
What you really mean is to keep Mexicans out. Benvolio is actually explicit on that point and totally unapologetic about his white supremacist views.

Building a wall to keep out illegal aliens is not racist, it's called defending your country against people who illegally enter.

I'm sure you lock the door of your house when you leave -- is that a supremacist view? Locks and walls are meant to give a message -- ask if you want to enter.

 

[Alnitak]

Building a wall to keep out illegal aliens is not racist, it's called defending your country against people who illegally enter.

I'm sure you lock the door of your house when you leave -- is that a supremacist view? Locks and walls are meant to give a message -- ask if you want to enter.

Not passport security at the airport? Not enforcement of visas? You're not worried about all those nasty icky Europeans? At least a million Asians have immigrated here illegally. What about the border with Canada? You know it's leaked tens of thousands of disgusting Canucks who are trying to steal all our jobs. Oh that's right, it's really only about Mexicans.

 

[CowboyBob]

Not passport security at the airport? Not enforcement of visas? You're not worried about all those nasty icky Europeans? What about the border with Canada? You know it's leaked tens of thousands of disgusting Canucks who are trying to steal all our jobs.

Do you know years ago they let all those awful Norwegians and Swedes in the USA without passports. Everywhere you look around here there are blonde hair / blue eyed people, some are anchor babies. They brought in this country silly sound languages and strange customs and food. Ever eat Lutefisk, Kjøttboller and geitost ?! Norwegians have even forced their food on real Americans.

And I live in a "border state" where I see hundreds of cars with Manitoba and Ontario license plates every Canadian holiday weekend running all over my community. We have a porous border with Canada; it's frightening.

 

[Kulindahr]

I would just note that it has been pointed out that the large percentage of illegal immigrants in the US arrive by plane.

And overstay their visas.

That is going to be a very tall fence.

Any idea how big a portion they constitute?

BTW, it isn't just planes -- the Pacific NW has had a small problem with Russian sailors coming ashore and not returning to their ships.

 

[Rolyo85]

Building a wall to keep out illegal aliens is not racist, it's called defending your country against people who illegally enter.

I'm sure you lock the door of your house when you leave -- is that a supremacist view? Locks and walls are meant to give a message -- ask if you want to enter.

But you didn't really address what he said at all, did you? Because you DON'T care about people who enter illegally from Canada. You only look south. Why? Because they're brown.

 

[TX-Beau]

I don't get why anyone would put up with illegal immigration to be honest. In my country, I'm happy to support the idea of deporting people who don't respect the law, making an effort to keep them out, etc. I'm also a supporter of lots of legal immigration. I don't see a conflict between the two. I want immigrants, not law-breakers.

(emphasis mine)

Because the people who hire them have huge economic incentive to do so. It's not difficult to understand at all.

 

[chrisrobin]

But you didn't really address what he said at all, did you? Because you DON'T care about people who enter illegally from Canada. You only look south. Why? Because they're brown.

I would like to point out that the city with largest concentration of Polish nationals (next to Warsaw) is in Chicago.* Many Polish come here on a visitor's visa. When their visas expire, they simply stay. I might describe these folks as undocumented aliens. They seem to blend in with the general population well. Not only that, but there's Polish Constitution parade every May 3rd. Casimir Pulaski's birthday is a holiday. I don't hear any complains about Polish "illegals." Could it possibly be because they are not brown?

*It was not coincidental that Pope John Paul II (who was Polish) selected Chicago as his first stop on his first visit to the U.S. in 1979.

 

[Kulindahr]

I would like to point out that the city with largest concentration of Polish nationals (next to Warsaw) is in Chicago.* Many Polish come here on a visitor's visa. When their visas expire, they simply stay. I might describe these folks as undocumented aliens. They seem to blend in with the general population well. Not only that, but there's Polish Constitution parade every May 3rd. Casimir Pulaski's birthday is a holiday. I don't hear any complains about Polish "illegals." Could it possibly be because they are not brown?

*It was not coincidental that Pope John Paul II (who was Polish) selected Chicago as his first stop on his first visit to the U.S. in 1979.

Depends how you count -- by one measure, as of last year New York is the city with the second largest number of Poles, making Chicago third.

 

[chrisrobin]

Building a wall to keep out illegal aliens is not racist, it's called defending your country against people who illegally enter.

Been there. Done that. This one was ineffective, just as ours would be.

 

[Kulindahr]

Been there. Done that. This one was ineffective, just as ours would be.

That one wasn't actually meant to keep people out; it was intended to slow down raiders enough that response troops could cut off their escape.

 

[chrisrobin]

That one wasn't actually meant to keep people out; it was intended to slow down raiders enough that response troops could cut off their escape.

Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.

Robert Frost

 

[rareboy]

At least 40% by most counts. With some estimates as high as 45%+.

 

[Alnitak]

That one wasn't actually meant to keep people out; it was intended to slow down raiders enough that response troops could cut off their escape.

Of course those pretty Ming Dynasty sections near Beijing were built after most of the Mongolian and Manchurian invasions.

While some emperors had made great efforts to maintain the walls in good shape, for most of Chinese history it had been relatively easy to breach them. The Han are most notable for building thousands of miles of it, but that was 2000 years ago. By the time of the 13th century Mongol takeover of China, the old dirt walls in China proper had been neglected for centuries.