Republican's Steering The Titanic

[KrisHawkXXX]

Lol had the captain not gone left, the ship would've nose-dived. Let's all remember that Obama prevented this country from going further down into a crash.

 

[CowboyBob]

Re: Republicans Steering The Titanic

Exactly right. And some people want to go back on the exact same course that got us into this mess to begin with. It shows that some people will never learn.

We need strict regulations of the banking, insurance and financial industries. We need comprehensive health care for all American citizens. People's health should not be a for profit industry. Freedom of religion is one cornerstone of this country, and that means ALL religions, not just conservative Christianity.

This isn't American, Inc. This country isn't for the rich white heterosexual Christian males, it's for everyone. Chances are your parents, or grandparents or great-grandparents came over here to start a new life, and the door for immigration hasn't closed.

Republicans are working for those select few who want this country to regress back into a previous century. We can't let that happen.

 

[Jack Springer]

The course we're on now is taking us down the road to unaffordable insurance and risking the best medical care in the world.

Our current course also has us stuck at almost 10% unemployment (actually closer to 17% under-employed and those not counted) and business that is not growing.

Under our current course it will be at least 2020 until we even get back to a normal unemployment rate.

Our current course we have a President who plays golf, has White House parties, and campaigns more than he works on ways to improve the economy.

Our current course is leading us to become a second class country relinquishing our role as a world leader in democracy and human rights.

In our current course the middle class will pay for a free ride for those who want to live off the government, while the rich get richer (yes, this includes rich Democrats too).

Most importantly under our current course our President is not leading -- he just there trying to fulfill the list of pent-up liberal agenda items of the last 20 years. Presidents often are given a different agenda that they don't expect and have to rise to occasion to take care of those problems. Obama's course hasn't addressed unemployment, sky-rocketing health care costs, sky-rocketing debt, and how we work with others around the world - just apologizing is not going to do it.

If regression means going back to a honorable, hard-working, productive country -- one where people are proud to be Americans and look forward to the future -- I'm all for regression.

 

[MoltenRock III]

You can tell you've never actually been forced to use the healthcare system for anything major in America, much less anywhere else in the world.

 

[glorff]

If the Titanic had hit the iceberg directly it would not have gone down. It is the problem of trying to avoid the inevitable that has plagued this country the whole time. Put it off till tomorrow. Both sides of the aisle.

 

[MoltenRock III]

things are going to be a wreck when republicans win their veto-proof, filibuster-proof majorities and can do whatever the hell they want without regard to Obama or the democrats.

What the fuck are you smoking dude? Get real.

It's NEVER happening in your lifetime, much less this year. ========

 

[evanrick]

President Obama must be a very powerful figure if he has singularly destroyed America as the tea-partiers and neo-cons would have us believe.

And the "best medical care in the world" doesn't mean dick if you cant afford it. Its also an illusion used to scare people who are afraid to lose whatever they have.

and if a pent up liberal agenda means saving America from a 2nd great depression, i guess you would rather see MORE americans sinking into poverty, more breadlines, more joblessness, more despair...but that is typical of a republican these days.

 

[Stardreamer]

If the Titanic had hit the iceberg directly it would not have gone down. It is the problem of trying to avoid the inevitable that has plagued this country the whole time. Put it off till tomorrow. Both sides of the aisle.

I'm a bit of Titanic buff and at least as your analogy goes its quite right (dropping the political issues and just concentrating on the analogy itself for info purposes). First Officer Murdoch's response to the sighting of the burg was by the book, he did all the right things in response to a potential collision. However in this exact case doing the right thing was exactly the wrong thing to do. His orders were to turn hard to the left and reverse engines. The Titanic had two reciprocating steam engines and a center turbine engine operated by the steam coming off the other two. It takes time slow the main engines to a stop, reverse the gears and bring them back up to speed and the turbine stopped as soon as the steam flow was cut off to the other two. So as the crew rushed to reverse the engines much of the turning force that is provided by the propellers pushing against the rudder was lost. That combined with an already inefficient rudder design assured that the Titanic would not have cleared the burg. The left turn was the final nail in the coffin, the Titanic was designed to survive any collision her designers could imagine. If she had not turned, she would have plowed head on into the burg, exactly the type of collision she was designed to survive. A lot of passengers would have been tossed from their beds but the ship would have lived. The turn caused her to strike at an shearing angle that ran along the side of the ship breaching so many compartments she couldn't survive.

As for a political metaphor to be drawn, I can only think that doing what seems to be the right thing is not always the best answer to a particular scenario. An example that could be applied to either party under the current circumstances.

 

[Kulindahr]

The course we're on now is taking us down the road to unaffordable insurance and risking the best medical care in the world.

Our current course also has us stuck at almost 10% unemployment (actually closer to 17% under-employed and those not counted) and business that is not growing.

Under our current course it will be at least 2020 until we even get back to a normal unemployment rate.

Our current course we have a President who plays golf, has White House parties, and campaigns more than he works on ways to improve the economy.

Our current course is leading us to become a second class country relinquishing our role as a world leader in democracy and human rights.

In our current course the middle class will pay for a free ride for those who want to live off the government, while the rich get richer (yes, this includes rich Democrats too).

Most importantly under our current course our President is not leading -- he just there trying to fulfill the list of pent-up liberal agenda items of the last 20 years. Presidents often are given a different agenda that they don't expect and have to rise to occasion to take care of those problems. Obama's course hasn't addressed unemployment, sky-rocketing health care costs, sky-rocketing debt, and how we work with others around the world - just apologizing is not going to do it.

If regression means going back to a honorable, hard-working, productive country -- one where people are proud to be Americans and look forward to the future -- I'm all for regression.

Fine.

And what would McCain have been able to do differently? He favors giant corporations over people, planned to ramp up military spending by more than enough to make the health care bill come free, and probably feels about infrastructure the same as most people who are so wealthy they don't even know how much they have: as long as they don't have to drive on it, let it rot!

And in McCain's world, the rich would get richer at a much faster rate.

 

[Kulindahr]

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Just what universe is Graham from?

He's so out of touch he'd need a fleet of Hubble telescopes to figure out which way to reach!

 

[TheFireGod]

I thought Republicans would just bomb that iceberg, but then again they'll deny it can melt from the heat.

 

[White Eagle]

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Just what universe is Graham from?

He's so out of touch he'd need a fleet of Hubble telescopes to figure out which way to reach!

Please don't mention he is from Texas. I haven't seen him in years and I haven't missed anything because of it.

 

[Kulindahr]

I thought Republicans would just bomb that iceberg, but then again they'll deny it can melt from the heat.

Actually, the USAF and the Navy put a lot of effort into finding ways to bust up icebergs. Bombardment was seriously ineffective, as was incendiary.

Tough things, icebergs.