Rick Perry poaches yet another California company to move to Texas

[Kulindahr]

Nope. The jobs lost from Toyota's exit from California are about 6,000 high-paying jobs. These are educated, highly skilled "white collar" jobs in engineering, marketing, product design, development, etc. These are jobs that pay from about $60,000 to $150,000 per year. Toyota said yesterday that they will pay the *same salary* plus a bonus & relocation costs to all employees who wish to move to Plano (suburban Dallas, Texas).

Toyota's leaving California has big effects for Southern CA and the local economy. Toyota's office space in CA is about 30 acres of buildings; now it will be vacant. All of the local companies that supported Toyota & their employees are nervous because they will have less customers.

The mayor of Torrance said that he considers himself "pro-business" but he simply couldn't compete with the incentives Texas was offering. He said that the state of California needed to offer something to California to encourage them to stay, but California didn't offer anything.

What did Texas offer??

A $40 million dollar investment from the Texas Enterprise Fund (operated by state of TX)
30 years of corporate tax forgiveness
Lower cost of living in Dallas for employees (30% lower housing costs, cheaper electricity, cheaper gasoline, no state income tax)


http://www.dallasnews.com/news/comm...yota-move-consolidates-divisions-in-plano.ece

In a just world, state officials offering such a large tax break to just one company when it isn't offered to all companies would go to prison for embezzlement and bribery.

 

[Kulindahr]

indeed, seems the interstate commerce clause could use some support from congress. states rights wont matter. republicans are going to start a trade war between the states to see who can get the cheapest slave labor and tax giveaways.

That would be a novel but interesting application of the commerce clause -- and better founded than a lot of recent applications.

 

[cm98059]

Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

Now I live in a "red state". A friend and I just bought a house for $15,000.00. While we are waiting on the house to close, we are paying 400 dollars a month for a two bedroom house that is twice as large as my apartment was before. The 1995 Ford I am driving is paid off, the title is in my hands free and clear. Both gas tanks of the pick up have gas in them. I have protection from losing my house due to the homestead act in my new home state. I am two hours away from the tribal headquarters of the Nation, which after I get the correct copy of my birth certificate will allow me to register the pickup for lower registration rates. Tribal affiliation also affords me more protections, to my home and vehicle. Yeah, I don't qualify for public assistance, so I cannot get state assistance with healthcare yet, but I will get that through the Nation. Yeah, minimum wage here is $7.25 an hour, but I can live on that, since I have no house payment. I also do not have a pesky home owners association that thinks it can tell me what I can or cannot have, so a form of camping vehicle is in my future. As well as a classic car project of some sort, whether that be a muscle car, a post war classic, or an old woody (get your mind out of the gutter, that is a wooden bodied station wagon). But since I live in a rural area, an hour away from the nearest city, I see a second car in my future as well, probably a small SUV or crossover. Maybe a classic jeep with a small 4 or 6 cylinder engine. I am considering a small business. I am also considering a run for City Council, since I live two to six blocks from city hall. All in all, I cannot complain about being in a "red state", I am a lot better off now then when I was in a "blue state". Go Figure.

And because someone is going to ask, I have never claimed any political party affiliation, I have always voted for the candidate that best suited my personal views. And I still will, so I don't see "red states" going away any time soon. "tea party" states, yeah they are going to fall, and fall hard. But I have good people around me here in this "red state".

You can sign me
"I have looked at life from both sides now"

 

[evanrick]

Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

Now I live in a "red state". A friend and I just bought a house for $15,000.00. While we are waiting on the house to close, we are paying 400 dollars a month for a two bedroom house that is twice as large as my apartment was before. The 1995 Ford I am driving is paid off, the title is in my hands free and clear. Both gas tanks of the pick up have gas in them. I have protection from losing my house due to the homestead act in my new home state. I am two hours away from the tribal headquarters of the Nation, which after I get the correct copy of my birth certificate will allow me to register the pickup for lower registration rates. Tribal affiliation also affords me more protections, to my home and vehicle. Yeah, I don't qualify for public assistance, so I cannot get state assistance with healthcare yet, but I will get that through the Nation. Yeah, minimum wage here is $7.25 an hour, but I can live on that, since I have no house payment. I also do not have a pesky home owners association that thinks it can tell me what I can or cannot have, so a form of camping vehicle is in my future. As well as a classic car project of some sort, whether that be a muscle car, a post war classic, or an old woody (get your mind out of the gutter, that is a wooden bodied station wagon). But since I live in a rural area, an hour away from the nearest city, I see a second car in my future as well, probably a small SUV or crossover. Maybe a classic jeep with a small 4 or 6 cylinder engine. I am considering a small business. I am also considering a run for City Council, since I live two to six blocks from city hall. All in all, I cannot complain about being in a "red state", I am a lot better off now then when I was in a "blue state". Go Figure.

And because someone is going to ask, I have never claimed any political party affiliation, I have always voted for the candidate that best suited my personal views. And I still will, so I don't see "red states" going away any time soon. "tea party" states, yeah they are going to fall, and fall hard. But I have good people around me here in this "red state".

You can sign me
"I have looked at life from both sides now"

seeing how the federal minimum wage is 7.25 would you support increasing it?

 

[bike10]

Come the land of Rick Perry we don't need no regulations of industries in Texas.

 

[Kulindahr]

Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

Now I live in a "red state". A friend and I just bought a house for $15,000.00. While we are waiting on the house to close, we are paying 400 dollars a month for a two bedroom house that is twice as large as my apartment was before. The 1995 Ford I am driving is paid off, the title is in my hands free and clear. Both gas tanks of the pick up have gas in them. I have protection from losing my house due to the homestead act in my new home state. I am two hours away from the tribal headquarters of the Nation, which after I get the correct copy of my birth certificate will allow me to register the pickup for lower registration rates. Tribal affiliation also affords me more protections, to my home and vehicle. Yeah, I don't qualify for public assistance, so I cannot get state assistance with healthcare yet, but I will get that through the Nation. Yeah, minimum wage here is $7.25 an hour, but I can live on that, since I have no house payment. I also do not have a pesky home owners association that thinks it can tell me what I can or cannot have, so a form of camping vehicle is in my future. As well as a classic car project of some sort, whether that be a muscle car, a post war classic, or an old woody (get your mind out of the gutter, that is a wooden bodied station wagon). But since I live in a rural area, an hour away from the nearest city, I see a second car in my future as well, probably a small SUV or crossover. Maybe a classic jeep with a small 4 or 6 cylinder engine. I am considering a small business. I am also considering a run for City Council, since I live two to six blocks from city hall. All in all, I cannot complain about being in a "red state", I am a lot better off now then when I was in a "blue state". Go Figure.

And because someone is going to ask, I have never claimed any political party affiliation, I have always voted for the candidate that best suited my personal views. And I still will, so I don't see "red states" going away any time soon. "tea party" states, yeah they are going to fall, and fall hard. But I have good people around me here in this "red state".

You can sign me
"I have looked at life from both sides now"

Much of those differences isn't because it's red state v blue state, but rural v urban. Take the house my mom has: move it two hundred miles in the proper direction, and it would be worth half what it is; move it a hundred in a different direction and it would be worth three times what it is. The big difference in those moves is that one would be to an even less dense population area, while the other would be to a much more dense area. My best buddy moved to a place (he inherited a ranch) where my mom's house would be barely worth a quarter what it is here!

The monetary limitations when you're on public assistance are relics of the Reagan era, and need drastic adjustment because they no longer reflect reality. I know a guy here who's limited to having a car worth $400, which inevitably means he generally has to spend at least a hundred each month to keep it running -- it would actually be more cost effective to allow a car worth $1200, because then he could get one that wouldn't need the constant repairing to keep it moving (another crazy side of the limitation on how valuable a car you can have is that it guarantees that we have old clunker polluters on the road, but that's a different issue!). The rent restrictions are equally crazy; an apartment that falls under the limit in this area tends not to qualify for public housing assistance because it's too small and cramped!

 

[TX-Beau]

I would be cheering if I lived in Texas. I've been thinking about moving to Texas though........Dallas is nice. Lots of big, hunky Texan men ...

The Republican ones won't date brown foreigners.

 

[TX-Beau]

Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

Now I live in a "red state". A friend and I just bought a house for $15,000.00. While we are waiting on the house to close, we are paying 400 dollars a month for a two bedroom house that is twice as large as my apartment was before. The 1995 Ford I am driving is paid off, the title is in my hands free and clear. Both gas tanks of the pick up have gas in them. I have protection from losing my house due to the homestead act in my new home state. I am two hours away from the tribal headquarters of the Nation, which after I get the correct copy of my birth certificate will allow me to register the pickup for lower registration rates. Tribal affiliation also affords me more protections, to my home and vehicle. Yeah, I don't qualify for public assistance, so I cannot get state assistance with healthcare yet, but I will get that through the Nation. Yeah, minimum wage here is $7.25 an hour, but I can live on that, since I have no house payment. I also do not have a pesky home owners association that thinks it can tell me what I can or cannot have, so a form of camping vehicle is in my future. As well as a classic car project of some sort, whether that be a muscle car, a post war classic, or an old woody (get your mind out of the gutter, that is a wooden bodied station wagon). But since I live in a rural area, an hour away from the nearest city, I see a second car in my future as well, probably a small SUV or crossover. Maybe a classic jeep with a small 4 or 6 cylinder engine. I am considering a small business. I am also considering a run for City Council, since I live two to six blocks from city hall. All in all, I cannot complain about being in a "red state", I am a lot better off now then when I was in a "blue state". Go Figure.

And because someone is going to ask, I have never claimed any political party affiliation, I have always voted for the candidate that best suited my personal views. And I still will, so I don't see "red states" going away any time soon. "tea party" states, yeah they are going to fall, and fall hard. But I have good people around me here in this "red state".

You can sign me
"I have looked at life from both sides now"

Yeah, I live in a red state too, and unless you live at the ass end of nowhere, the only "house" you're buying for $15,000.00 once belonged to a Barbie.

I call bullshit on the RV and all the car projects while living off of minimum wage.

 

[cm98059]

seeing how the federal minimum wage is 7.25 would you support increasing it?

I do support a higher minimum wage. I support a living wage. There is no one who should have to work more than one job to support their family.

Yeah, I live in a red state too, and unless you live at the ass end of nowhere, the only "house" you're buying for $15,000.00 once belonged to a Barbie.

I call bullshit on the RV and all the car projects while living off of minimum wage.

Well, I live in the middle of the red state above you. And if you read my post, there is no where in there that it says a new RV. Nor does it say anything more than thinking about a couple of different projects. Not that I was going to get them all. Nor does it say in my post whether or not I have any plans to rent out an extra room or two. It does say that with a cash offer, I have no house payments to deal with.

 

[chrisrobin]

has nothing to do with democrats, and everything to do with the republican desire to rob every taxpayer and give that money to corporations. republicans will not be happy until every competitor is gone. they are against free markets, and its something congress can address.

As long as there's a black guy in the White House, Congress will address diddley squat.

 

[White Eagle]

Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

 

[White Eagle]

Why not??

I have no problems moving to Texas. I think it's a great state even though I will always consider myself a Californian at heart.

Plus I love me some hunky Texan cowboys Texas is a very "macho" state. Even the gay men are more masculine there.....I like reading Dallas Voice to keep tabs on the gay community in Dallas.

www.dallasvoice.com

At the rate the economy in CA is going, I may be moving to TX sooner than I thought...

You will fit right in with the Dallas crowd.

 

[Kulindahr]

I'm not going to worry about California much.

 

[vulgar_newcomer]

Why don't we compare "red states" with "blue states" for a moment. While I lived in a "blue state", I was fighting cancer. The state paid for my chemotherapy treatments since I had no insurance and was unable to work, but I had to keep my rent and utilities under 800.00 a month. A small one bedroom apartment far from transit was $700.00 a month. So I had to keep my utilities under 100.00 a month. In order to do that, I had to get rid of cable, so no TV. I had to leave the lights off most of the time, and I could only have one light bulb on at a time. not even enough light to read a book by. No internet, no phone, and I had to keep the thermostats turned down to about 60 degrees, relying on the heat from my neighbor's apartments to keep mine warm enough. I was allowed to keep my car, but I could get no help paying for the mandatory car insurance that the state mandated. But I was given a voucher for 20.00 dollars a week for gas. That equaled just over 5 gallons of gas a week, in a truck that got 10 miles per gallon. I also received 189 dollars a month for food. It was subsistence living at it's worst. I was forced to rely on food banks. I had to ask friends and family to help me buy a quart of oil if I needed to add oil to my truck. Then when I traded my 800 dollar 1987 Chevy truck for a 1995 Buick that got better mileage, but had a blue book value of 1500 dollars, I was punished, even though I ended up having to sell the Buick for $300.00 because the engine needed work, and it quit running.

You can sign me
"I have looked at life from both sides now"

Your analogy makes no sense.

Now if you get cancer again in your current red state then compare with your previous experiences. You can base them on state programs not federal. See where you would be if cancer strikes you as it did in the blue state. The state that covered your treatment and $10 - 30,000 a month chemo bill. See what you would qualify for where you live now, and how much if any SSI or Medicaid you will get as a single adult. It appears you didn't get SSDI or Medicare with your illness.

I think you will understand you would or will be in far worse shape should you experience the same sort of medical disaster where you live now.

 

[Kulindahr]

Your analogy makes no sense.

Now if you get cancer again in your current red state then compare with your previous experiences. You can base them on state programs not federal. See where you would be if cancer strikes you as it did in the blue state. The state that covered your treatment and $10 - 30,000 a month chemo bill. See what you would qualify for where you live now, and how much if any SSI or Medicaid you will get as a single adult. It appears you didn't get SSDI or Medicare with your illness.

I think you will understand you would or will be in far worse shape should you experience the same sort of medical disaster where you live now.

Maybe his point was that neither 'color' state treats people with real dignity.