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Ridley Scott returns for ALIEN prequel!

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^ I knew the xenomorphs are different depending upon the host they use to reproduce. I thought the ship leaving might have been the one found in the original Alien. The signal was sent by Elizabeth Shaw when she left the planet to search for the 'answers.'

She sent it as a warning and that's what the computer on the Nostromo picked up and after working on decoding it for a while, Ripley told Ash, "It looks like a warning."

But then the number of the planet was LV 223, not LV 426 in the original Alien and then revisited in Aliens.

I found this info:
Alien and Prometheus are set on a DIFFERENT MOONS.
LV-426 is where the Nostromo found the derelict ship which Dallas reckoned was dead for a long long time as it appeared to be fossilised (this is only 28 years after Prometheus, by the way)
LV-223 is where the Premetheus found the WMD facilities.

They are different ships, different space jockeys, around different planets in different solar systems. They are approx 10 light years away from each other.
 
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Spiff said:
I just said there was an aspect I was particularly disappointed in.
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It could still happen. No matter the origin, who's to say there isn't a celestial body out there they haven't completely overrun? 'Course, the idea was already explored in Aliens, so...
 
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tombastep said:
I think I am going to watch the Alien films tomorrow. Alien, Aliens and Resurrection. I know people aren't the biggest fan of the 4th, but I thought it was pretty decent. 3 is pretty unwatchable for the most part.
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I love your avatar! Kitteh. :)

I actually don't mind the 3rd film although the first two are my favorites.
 
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Native Son said:
It could still happen. No matter the origin, who's to say there isn't a celestial body out there they haven't completely overrun? 'Course, the idea was already explored in Aliens, so...
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In Aliens, all we know is that they had overrun a mining colony. And only because "Newt's" parents brought a facehugger back with them when they found the derelict ship. It would be unlikely that the whole planet would have been overrun, unless the whole planet had living hosts for the aliens to thrive. Still, may as well blow up the entire planet, "it's the only way to be sure."

But something like that was not was referring to before. I had meant that it would have been interesting if the aliens had their own native home world. A race made up of countless species, some more intelligent than others. All very primitive, but still intelligent in their own way. A whole world of Giger architecture and organisms. With the latest direction that Prometheus took, the aliens would not have had a native world since they basically were bred in a lab and mutated.
 
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Again - that's not in any way sure. They obviously existed thousands of years before the events in Prometheus. They could easily have been an original species that the Engineers were trying to replicate or simply experiment on.
 
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Spiff said:
In Aliens, all we know is that they had overrun a mining colony. And only because "Newt's" parents brought a facehugger back with them when they found the derelict ship. It would be unlikely that the whole planet would have been overrun, unless the whole planet had living hosts for the aliens to thrive. Still, may as well blow up the entire planet, "it's the only way to be sure."

But something like that was not was referring to before. I had meant that it would have been interesting if the aliens had their own native home world. A race made up of countless species, some more intelligent than others. All very primitive, but still intelligent in their own way. A whole world of Giger architecture and organisms. With the latest direction that Prometheus took, the aliens would not have had a native world since they basically were bred in a lab and mutated.
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I don’t know, maybe I just don’t have the imagination, but natural evolution raises some issues I just can’t quite get past.

The xenos are the dominate species, of course, so you have to introduce at least one indigenous organism that evolved alongside them that they’re able to impregnate and, so, reproduce. Seein’ as the xenos are parasitoids, these creatures would have to have developed some kind of defense mechanism, in which case they're just as hearty and maybe even just as deadly as these seemingly unstoppable killing-machines. And wouldn’t that kinda steal some of their fearsome thunder? That or else there’s some kind of symbiotic relationship in which maybe the chest burst(?) yields the host organism’s offspring so as to provide some kind of sustainable co-existence. Don't know. But how else could either species continue on their merry way without becoming extinct?

So then I wonder why would they ever bother fusing with weak humans? It’d be like degeneration. No, they’d just eat us and be done with it. End of movie.

I like the idea that they’re genetic manipulations gone awry. They can never be contained. Not even by the ones who set them on their path. So many more sinister possibilities there.

For what it’s worth, I do think Lindelof’s script eats you-know-what. (But still enjoyed Prometheus overall.)
 
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Native Son said:
For what it’s worth, I do think Lindelof’s script eats you-know-what. (But still enjoyed Prometheus overall.)
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yeah, same here. In that sense, it was much like the tv show Lost. I thoroughly enjoyed watching that show, despite the story being a mess of disconnected yet intriguing ideas that never really came together. Lindelof has a good shovel for digging deep holes, but he always buries himself in them.
 
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Notice in this movie the xenomorphs looked like a long penis and went down the host's throat instead of the facehugger type.

Hopefully, in the next film, they'll be entering through the rear of some really hot male actors...oh, wait, no, this is my porn Alien scenario...Probe neathaya...now playing on Adult On Demand
 
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I think the answer is quite easy about the moons. They changed the star maps and re named the moons! I also have a theory about the engineers. it is quite possible the Engineers are at war with each other, or playing a game of creating weapons to destroy the other engineer "weapons". I mean even though the "Predators" are not in any of the "alien" movies related to the what I call Ripley story line, it is possible that they were also created by an engineer as a weapon of mass destruction? there is logic here once the engineer in Prometheus found out out us a creation by another engineer well what else would he want to do but wipe us out?
 
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After watching that movie, I have many more questions than answers. I was riveted, though.

I still say they should've explored/mapped the other silos. Why stop at one? There may've been more clues or even surviving engineers.
 
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socalguy said:
I think the answer is quite easy about the moons. They changed the star maps and re named the moons! I also have a theory about the engineers. it is quite possible the Engineers are at war with each other, or playing a game of creating weapons to destroy the other engineer "weapons". I mean even though the "Predators" are not in any of the "alien" movies related to the what I call Ripley story line, it is possible that they were also created by an engineer as a weapon of mass destruction? there is logic here once the engineer in Prometheus found out out us a creation by another engineer well what else would he want to do but wipe us out?
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The Predators have a space-traveling civilization and have had it since the dawn of human history. They have nothing in common with the single-minded murderousness of the Engineers' creations.

Also - it's two different moons, orbiting two different planets (one a blue gas giant, the other - a red one). So says Scott, and it's obvious in the movies.
 
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Why would u dismiss the Predators are a creation of the Engineers so easily ? I thought in one the predators movies they actually have a home world? Is there any evidence that the Engineers get along with other member of their species. Why would the Engineer in this movie act to violently against something that was created by a member of its own species?
 
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Adrock-JD said:
Notice in this movie the xenomorphs looked like a long penis and went down the host's throat instead of the facehugger type.
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Well, not exactly unintentional.

Adrock-JD said:
Hopefully, in the next film, they'll be entering through the rear of some really hot male actors...oh, wait, no, this is my porn Alien scenario...Probe neathaya...now playing on Adult On Demand
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I know you're goofing here, but you're really not that far off the mark.

Sometimes it does just boil down to penises and penetration.
 
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The answers about why the Engineer killed the crew members, and then attempted to escape...We do not know what David told him....However the Engineer knows better then anyone the destructive nature of these creatures and how fast things can get out of control ..so he must have figured out the crew most likely been infected and had no choice but to start to kill all of them, kind of like a plague. Since he had no clue how far along they were he might have thought Earth was infected as well and to stop it there before it spread across the galaxy.
 
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socalguy said:
Why would u dismiss the Predators are a creation of the Engineers so easily ? I thought in one the predators movies they actually have a home world? Is there any evidence that the Engineers get along with other member of their species. Why would the Engineer in this movie act to violently against something that was created by a member of its own species?
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Because when the Engineers created life, it was in their image, though weaker. When they created weapons, they created single-minded parasites. The Predators are neither in the image of the Engineers, nor in any way parasitic in nature. They have a tribal warrior society and technology which is dramatically different from the Engineers', though clearly no less advanced, even if in different directions.

As a theory, there is no concrete proof that the Engineers did not create the Predators (OR the Aliens for that matter), but that's not enough of a reason for me to entertain it, considering there are absolutely NO arguments to actually support it :)
 
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Prometheus still held on to the #2 spot this weekend taking in $20-Million...Parents & kids are determined to keep Madagascar @ #1 going into Summer...
 
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