On-Topic Rift Forms in Movement as Belief in Gay ‘Cure’ Is Renounced

[chrisrobin]

Alan Chambers, 40, the president, declared that there was no cure for homosexuality and that “reparative therapy” offered false hopes to gays and could even be harmful. His statements have led to charges of heresy and a growing schism within the network.

Well, duh!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/07/u...=1&_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_201207

“My homosexual feelings began to dissipate and attractions for women grew,” said David H. Pickup, a therapist who specializes in "conversion" treatment.

His last name intrigues me.

 

[Stardreamer]

(chuckles) Will this lead to an exodus from Exodus?

 

[rareboy]

Hopefully, this scam will finally be exposed for the sham it always was.

The damage they have done is appalling.

 

[sixthson]

He did not say it was ok to be gay. He says homosexuality is a sin like any other sin, no more no less, and it needs to be resisted. He wants Exodus to be honest about curing gays. He believes it is a lifetime struggle, with the temptation never leaving the gay person.

 

[Stardreamer]

He did not say it was ok to be gay. He says homosexuality is a sin like any other sin, no more no less, and it needs to be resisted. He wants Exodus to be honest about curing gays. He believes it is a lifetime struggle, with the temptation never leaving the gay person.

*Laughs* Like alcoholism, we should have Gays Anonymous, whenever you feel a need for a gay man you could call one of your gay friends to come over and...oh that might not work.

 

[Kulindahr]

While he did not say it was okay to be gay, he's admitted failure in something that he tried to achieve (a "cure" for homosexuality")... that's what is important.

Precisely.

This also is important, especially for court cases:

Earlier this year, a prominent psychiatrist, Dr. Robert L. Spitzer, apologized for publishing what he now calls an invalid study, which said many patients had largely or totally switched their sexual orientation.

(from the article)

Bit by bit, rational step by rational step, the wall gets chipped away.


BTW, I'm disappointed in Chambers in that he did not point out that nowhere did Jesus say to persecute anyone, and that the change he made is called for by the Gospel.

 

[Ninja108]

It really is sad how these men were made to hate themselves so much by people in their lives.
It doesn't work because you can't change who you are.

 

[rareboy]

Hopefully the Exodus hacks will someday be able to get the therapy that they require in order to come to a healthy and loving image of themselves.

How sad that there are people out there who hate themselves so much that they would spread it around to others.

 

[Rolyo85]

(chuckles) Will this lead to an exodus from Exodus?

That's already happening Unfortunately Exodus will survive, as long as JayHawk pays them...

 

[Kulindahr]

That's already happening Unfortunately Exodus will survive, as long as JayHawk pays them...

Except as JH reports, he gets a discount so they're still losing money.

I'd like to know how much per meal they lose on their military discount, and if it applies to veterans. If it doesn't apply to vets and isn't more than a dollar, it's pointless to think any damage is being done. If it's over a dollar, and vets are included, and someone could organize a million vets a military to drop in once a week, that could hurt the corporate bottom line.

Meanwhile, a friend who used to have lunch at CfA no longer does, thanks to this issue.



edit: They'll survive because there are guys like JayQueer who eat there because of dancing cows and buff white guys.