Rihanna [Mega-Merged] Thread

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

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Well we will find out 2morrow.


To the hater talking about "singing other peoples words"; Def Jam signed Rihanna on as a singer NOT as a song writer.

Its called the music industry and there are jobs for everyone in the business. Not everybody is a writer and just for the record even the best in the business are written for.

Not everyone is able to compose a song, however the artist, alot of times sits down with a song writer and shares his/her thoughts and the song writer turns the thoughts and ideas into song. Just like a ghostwriter when writing someones memoirs or auto biography.


And just so know Rihanna does write when she chooses to write and has writing credits on Music of The Sun and A Girl Like Me and she has also written 3 songs for the new album.

Again Rihanna was singed on as a singer NOT a songwriter so that hate has failed.



About Live Your Life not being nominated had it not been a single? First of all if any song isnt released it stands no chance of being nominated and second have you listened to the lyrics?




Finally, false alarm about Disturbia.


Rihannas label did not submit it for record of the year consideration, bummer, sometimes i feel they don't have her best interest at heart.

Last year they sumittied Rihanna into R&B catergories instead of pop where she would have a better chance of winning.

Good Girl Gone Bad didnt even get a pop album nomination and it was one of the best that year. Some critics even said it had a chance at album of teh year.

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

I hope Beyonce wins short form music video. Single Ladies is amazing.

It wont win. Why? Its not original. She stole the entire concept from the old lady video on youtube. Id be surprized if it even got a nomination.

But then again the Grammys kiss her ass so anythings possible with her. Some fraud is going on anyways because SL and IIWAB missed the September deadline and her label still submitted the songs for consideration. Thats what happenes when daddy is on the committee.

 

[MCsNo1Fn]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

Not trying to pick a fight here. But can the same be said for Miss Britney Jean? She "sings" other people's words as well and gets all the credit and admiration for it. Not to mention Brit-Brit is also a talentless trainwreck hack with a shitty singing voice who happens to crank out hit songs every now and then. Thanx in part to genius producers, songwriters and record execs.

It's very hypocritical and disingenuous of you to bash Rihanna for being a cookie-cutter artist but openly support the most manufactured female star in the biz.

In my opinion, Rihanna has no performance skills. I'd be different if she either sang well, or was a great performer. But, in my opinion, she's neither. I don't find her entertaining in the least. To each their own. Everything I've said I'm not saying is a fact, but in my opinion, it IS fact. And Britney has written, co-written and released songs she's written and they've actually done well.

And Def Jam signed Rihanna as a singer? Their bad!

 

[Rex]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

^

Well we will find out 2morrow.


To the hater talking about "singing other peoples words"; Def Jam signed Rihanna on as a singer NOT as a song writer.

Its called the music industry and there are jobs for everyone in the business. Not everybody is a writer and just for the record even the best in the business are written for.

Not everyone is able to compose a song, however the artist, alot of times sits down with a song writer and shares his/her thoughts and the song writer turns the thoughts and ideas into song. Just like a ghostwriter when writing someones memoirs or auto biography.


And just so know Rihanna does write when she chooses to write and has writing credits on Music of The Sun and A Girl Like Me and she has also written 3 songs for the new album.

Again Rihanna was singed on as a singer NOT a songwriter so that hate has failed.



About Live Your Life not being nominated had it not been a single? First of all if any song isnt released it stands no chance of being nominated and second have you listened to the lyrics?




Finally, false alarm about Disturbia.


Rihannas label did not submit it for record of the year consideration, bummer, sometimes i feel they don't have her best interest at heart.

Last year they sumittied Rihanna into R&B catergories instead of pop where she would have a better chance of winning.

Good Girl Gone Bad didnt even get a pop album nomination and it was one of the best that year. Some critics even said it had a chance at album of teh year.

Rihanna was tolerable when "Pon De Replay" came out and she was just another young ,teenage, poppy singer but when her second album came out and they started marketing and selling her as an actual artist with talent is when I really started to dislike her.

She's so undeserving of any grammy nominations it's not even funny. She's no different than any other sex marketed teen queen whore who's over rated, over produced, and over praised. There is NOTHING remarkable about her in any way. Yes Britney is a talentless hack as well but even SHE deserves more praise than some newcomer rookie like Rihanna. Her voice sucks. If it wasn't for her productions, song writers and everything else that's disguising her as an actual singer, she'd be nothing.

I honestly don't understand your fanboy love towards someone who's so mediocre but then again gay guys seem to love these "divas" for some reason.

 

[Rex]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

^I think some of the adoration is because these guys like to fantasize that they themselves are the vixen. When they put "Shut up and drive" into the disc-changer, they start singing along to the lyrics and picturing themselves as the short-haired Barbados beauty with heavenly gams, the object of desire for millions of straight guys.

That's very true. Who could forget this gem?




I'm not saying Danugh pretends he's Rihanna and sings "SOS" in the mirror with his hairbrush/mic but I know for a fact that a lot of male fans DO fantasize about being a bombshell popstar in their bedrooms.

 

[Radio_Ethiopia]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

haha now i am paranoid your talking about me. but anyway to interject myself in this, please don't over react about the grammy's its not all popularity. May i remind you who one best album last year, Herbie Hancock and not more popular contenders like Kanye or Amy. I am not saying its a crystal clean system but give credit where credit is due.

Now my credit to Rihanna, she is pretty. there i said it. but
everytime i have seen her live it is horrible. and she has a mildly better voice than Britney spears.

now alot of people must say, well you love Madonna and she doesn't have a great voice. and you're right she doesn't but She has co-written or co-produced every song she has released since True Blue back in 1986. She is innovative and a chemilian of music well Rihanna makes the same crap over and over. Madonna is also a legend on stage and her shows tend to give me chills. No Madonna would not be famous if she was fat, neither would Rihanna but Madonna has worked so hard to become the entertainer she is, i do not see the same dedication from Rihanna.

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

So because a song or an artist is popular and he/she sells lots of records that means they cant make good quality Grammy deserving music? lol

No matter how popular you are if you produce crap you will not get rewarded for it and there are numerous examples for that.

Every year songs and artists are nominated that vast majority of people never heard of before and lots of popular songs get shut out for songs noone ever heard.


The Grammys arent perfect and dont always get it right but its not a popularity contest. At the end of the day an artist has to make good music no matter how popular they are.

The Grammys have favorites that would get nominated for singing the alphabet but they dont usually win the actual Grammy over more deserving artists.

 

[zingerz]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

^ srsly danugh, the grammy's arn't a popularity contest really? how come 90% of awards go to those 'artists' from major labels? how come the oh so comprehensive grammy's have the same artists winning the same crap year after year? honestly, i can tell you're one of those people who don't know and will not know how much acutal music is out there, and actually being released. but no question a lot of it is just as bad and unoriginal as these pop/over produced no-talent POS artists, but there's so much out there that's been undiscovered because not everybody with talent can afford an agent, manager that can market well.
and even the fact that they do get nominated for just absolute garbage ... well that's another long story that will just involve me ripping the commercial music business another new asshole

 

[zingerz]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

^And not everbody has legs from here to Sunday and perfect C-cups and good skin and expensive, european weaves.

exactly! and that's what i think is so bad about "music" these days... society is worshiping the look/fashions of the artists over their acutal sound, and what's really sad is these "prominant awards" are praising these stars for being bulimic and label-whoring.

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

Oh my gosh tonights the big night, im a little nervous but i know Rihanna delivered good quality relatable music this year and will be rewarded tonight.

Gone are the days when Rihanna is overlooked. Rihanna is now a force in the business and will get the respect she deserves tonight.


Lets go Ri Ri lets go

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

Like Madonna and Britney, Rihanna is an entertainer she never claimed to be Celine Dion.


Her debut single was a dance track that shot right to the top of the charts.


About Kate Perry when has she ever been at the top of the music industry?

She had one hit and thats it.


However, her one hit is a strong contender for record of the year because it really was one of the records of the year. I dont see her getting best new arist though but Kissed A Girl has a chance.



Oh and for the record even though an attemmpt was made to be bitchy people do actually talk about Rihannas voice in a positive light. Most recently Justin Timberlake commenting on the fact that he would love to work more with Rihanna in the future because her voice is so versatile and can be used in many music genres to good effect; which Rihanna has proven.

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

Its not Rihannas fault that she is stunning.

Rihanns looks have nothing to do with her being a mega superstar and force in the music industry as she is not a model.

Tyra Banks is famous for being a supermodel but she tried the music thing and failed.

Rihanna started with music and is now on top of the world.

If it was about looks then Cassie and Amerie and Tierra Marie would be Grammy winning record breaking worldwide superstars but they arent; however Rihanna is and in just 3 short years and all before her 21st birthday.

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

I dont know about your radio or the clubs that you go to but when i listen to my radio i cant see how pretty Rihanna is. When i am at the clubs i cant see how sexy Rihanna is.

When i am listening to my radio and partying at the clubs its all about about the music.


Why would i buy someone CD just because they are sexy?


Why would i pay for their itunes just because they are sexy?


Gimmie a break hate all you want, pretty or not Rihanna makes good music and in just 3 years has taken over leading the decade with the most hits.



So because someone is sexy they are incapable of producing good quality music? lol



Hate it or love it Rihanna cant help how she looks what she can control however, is the music she makes and its that music that has made her the force in the business so you need to deal with it.

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

Noone is perfect and i have said it many times Rihanna never claimed to be Celine Dion.

She is still just 20 and her voice is improving and if she gets a vocal nomination tonight it would mean the academy has recoginzed her growth. But even if she doesnt she is still gorwing as an artist.

Rihanna like Britney does the best she can with what is given to her vocally.


The girl is living her dream, this is all she ever wanted to do and she is doing it big despite the hate.


At the end of the day you cannot hear sexy.



Only 5 hours to go this is so exciting.


Ri Ri must be so nervous wherever she is now

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

The Grammys have a tendancy to make up for past mistakes.


Umbrella was the record of the year last year but they gave it to rehab.

Please Dont Stop The Music was the best dance recording last year but they gave the Grammy to Lovestoned kissing Justins ass.


So i feel this year even though Bleeding Love is the biggest single (like Umbrella last year) that they might give it to Take A Bow this year.


Also Lady Gaga is just going to have wait because the dance Grammy is going to Rihanna to make up for Please Dont Stop The Music.

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

Honestly, though, how long did it take before Rihanna had a really solid string of hits? After "Pon de Replay" her career was floundering about a bit which is why she's going on album number 4 after only being around for a few years. They kept trying to jump start her career but the damn thing just wouldn't take at first, haha.

That is so not true.


Pon De Replay was a massive hit and would have been number 1 but We Belong Together Just would not quit that summer.


If Its Loving That You Want was a top 40 hit.


Then a few months later Rihanna shot right to the top of the charts with S.O.S and that was the start she needed.


Then she had another top 10 hit with Unfaithful.


Then Umbrella came and we all know what happened after that.



But so what?


Almost every artist has that one massive signature song that elevates them to another level and Rihanna is no different.

However Rihanna got here and however long it took(3 years), Rihanna is here and doing it big and is now a bonafied superstar.


4 and 1/2 hours to go now


I know alot of you are praying and hoping she doesnt get any nominations tonight but that aint gonna happen so just prepeare yourselves from now. Ella Ella

 

[Radio_Ethiopia]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

The Grammys have a tendancy to make up for past mistakes.


Umbrella was the record of the year last year but they gave it to rehab.

Please Dont Stop The Music was the best dance recording last year but they gave the Grammy to Lovestoned kissing Justins ass.


So i feel this year even though Bleeding Love is the biggest single (like Umbrella last year) that they might give it to Take A Bow this year.


Also Lady Gaga is just going to have wait because the dance Grammy is going to Rihanna to make up for Please Dont Stop The Music.

Rehab won because its personal, powerful and catchy. Umbrella lost because it was robotic and irritating. Lovestoned won because it is an amazing dance number well pdsm lost because it sounds like so much other stuff out there. Also Rihanna won't win best Dance that should go to MIA for Jimmy, but MIA will not get nominated because she is not commercial enough. All i really am hoping for is 4 minutes for best Collab and Beck - Modern Guilt for Best Rock Album

I LOVE Janis Joplin but I'm willing to admit her shortcomings, that makes me a fan rather than an obssessive stan.

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Janis is AMAZING her live version of Ball and Chain is chilling!

 

[Danugh]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

All i really am hoping for is 4 minutes for best Collab

If it does it would be because Justins name is attached to it.

Either way it would lose to Rihanna and Maroon 5. Maroon 5 are Grammy faves and best new artist winners so that should pack more punch than Justin.


If 5 songs are good enough to be nominated then its not about which is better because thats subjective so it comes down to who voters like and who they wanna give it to.

Madonna won the Grammy for best dance album for Confessions yet she lost the Best Dance Recording Grammy to Justin for Sexyback when Hung Up didnt even get nominated?


Tell me exactly how you win Best Dance Album but dont win best dance recording?


Anyways i am hosting a Rihanna Grammy nominations party so ill be back later tonight or 2morrow.

 

[Radio_Ethiopia]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

ROTFL classic.

 

[Radio_Ethiopia]

Re: Rihanna and the 2009 Grammys

If it does it would be because Justins name is attached to it.

Either way it would lose to Rihanna and Maroon 5. Maroon 5 are Grammy faves and best new artist winners so that should pack more punch than Justin.


If 5 songs are good enough to be nominated then its not about which is better because thats subjective so it comes down to who voters like and who they wanna give it to.

Madonna won the Grammy for best dance album for Confessions yet she lost the Best Dance Recording Grammy to Justin for Sexyback when Hung Up didnt even get nominated?

Tell me exactly how you win Best Dance Album but dont win best dance recording?

Because Confessions as an Album was AMAZING the individual songs weren't as good as singles then all together as an album which i cannot say for futuresex/lovesounds which was very hit and miss. But seriously danugh M5 and Rihanna don't stand a chance against the Queen of Pop, JT and Timbaland.