Rise of Fascism in the United States [SPLIT]

[cityboy-stl]

Scott Pilutik writes:



I will bet that none of the Generals at Hegseth's Tuesday's pledge of allegiance rally will publicly object.

Infact, I would guess that a full 50% or more of them are fully in favour of the new hyper masc white boy military machine that Project 2025 envisions for a United States that will become an aggressor nation with a remorseless armed force that will commit any war crime the Commander in Chief demands.

But maybe there will be enough of them to finally be shaken into action.

I still think this is another step in the "Gleichschaltung" of the military.
Who in the military will pull together under der Trumpenführer as they prepare to declare martial law, and who will resist?
If they're faithful to their actual oath to the Constitution, every one of them should resist. Loudly.

This week is critical on many different fronts.

We shall see.

 

[Norri]

I will bet that none of the Generals at Hegseth's Tuesday's pledge of allegiance rally will publicly object.

Infact, I would guess that a full 50% or more of them are fully in favour of the new hyper masc white boy military machine that Project 2025 envisions for a United States that will become an aggressor nation with a remorseless armed force that will commit any war crime the Commander in Chief demands.

Evidently neither the Project 2025 folks nor secretary Hegseth are aware that according to the US military over 75% of the targeted population is either too fat, too stupid or too addicted to qualify for the military. They are lowering their standards because they cannot meet their recruitment goals from the population they have to work with. Hegseth has said he wants a military with a ‘warrior mentality’ which sounds like a joke to me. He should first meet the recruitment goals before raising the standards.

The last time the US sent troops into battle with that treasured ‘warrior mentality’ was in the Civil War…….and those were southern soldiers.

 

[cityboy-stl]

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[KaraBulut]

Evidently neither the Project 2025 folks nor secretary Hegseth are aware that according to the US military over 75% of the targeted population is either too fat, too stupid or too addicted to qualify for the military. They are lowering their standards because they cannot meet their recruitment goals from the population they have to work with.

Well, he just did something really stupid today. In spite of the lies that he told to Joni Ernst about women in the military, Hegseth just announced today that he is upping the physical fitness standards for the military and that women will have to meet the same fitness standards as men.

Never mind that a significant number of modern day military jobs involve sitting at a desk and operating remote drones. And the goal of the military is to avoid ground troops.

Hegseth orders fitness standards to be gender neutral for combat jobs. Many already are

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered the military to make fitness standards for all combat jobs gender neutral, formalizing a process that largely exists for many of those jobs already.

apnews.com

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered the military to make fitness standards for all combat jobs gender neutral, formalizing a process that largely exists for many of those jobs already.

In a new memo, Hegseth told leaders of the military services to distinguish which jobs are considered combat arms — such as special operations or infantry, and require “heightened entry level and sustained physical fitness” — and which are not.

Like RFK Jr, Hegseth is taking performance enhancing drugs. He's been running around military bases doing workouts with cameras rolling to prove that he's a "warrior".

I'm sure this will go over well with the officer ranks:

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Frankly, it’s tiring to look out at combat formations, or really any formation, and see fat troops,” he said. “Likewise, it’s completely unacceptable to see fat generals and admirals in the halls of the Pentagon leading commands around the country and the world.”

We can assume that the Commander-In-Chief is exempted from the fitness tests.

 

[Norri]

Well, he just did something really stupid today. In spite of the lies that he told to Joni Ernst about women in the military, Hegseth just announced today that he is upping the physical fitness standards for the military and that women will have to meet the same fitness standards as men.

Never mind that a significant number of modern day military jobs involve sitting at a desk and operating remote drones. And the goal of the military is to avoid ground troops.

I completely agree like his boss he’s stuck in a previous age, Hegseth may want an army that can fight WW2 again but that kind of war is not in our future and the Pentagon is not planning or purchasing for it. The model he should be looking at is the First Gulf War crisp and clean and over quickly. Drone warfare is the future and a woman can operate a drone as well as a man.

I think Trump dreams of being a wartime president, particularly FDR, always consulting with generals planning strategy and flying off to wartime summits with other world leaders and if he wasn’t such a piker it would be a real risk that he might start one but he don’t have the sack for it so he must settle for blowing up boats in the Caribbean and invading US cities as that is the level of risk he is comfortable with.

 

[rareboy]

Well, he just did something really stupid today. In spite of the lies that he told to Joni Ernst about women in the military, Hegseth just announced today that he is upping the physical fitness standards for the military and that women will have to meet the same fitness standards as men.

Never mind that a significant number of modern day military jobs involve sitting at a desk and operating remote drones. And the goal of the military is to avoid ground troops.

Hegseth orders fitness standards to be gender neutral for combat jobs. Many already are

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered the military to make fitness standards for all combat jobs gender neutral, formalizing a process that largely exists for many of those jobs already.

apnews.com

Like RFK Jr, Hegseth is taking performance enhancing drugs. He's been running around military bases doing workouts with cameras rolling to prove that he's a "warrior".

I'm sure this will go over well with the officer ranks:

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thehill.com

We can assume that the Commander-In-Chief is exempted from the fitness tests.

Stupid?

Well, we know he doesn't want women in the military. So this is one way of getting rid of them.

But really stupid? To lecture the generals. After calling them all in from all around the world.

We'll see how this plays.

 

[KaraBulut]

Well, we know he doesn't want women in the military. So this is one way of getting rid of them.

The joke is on him.

Women are 51% of the population but only about 16-18% of the armed forces active duty.

It ain't gonna be the lesbians and black women (groups disproportionately represented in the military) who won't meet the fitness standards.

 

[rareboy]

He'll get rid of them in a different way.

He wants an all male, white male, cis het male armed forces.

BTW. A lot of thunderous faces in the crowd shot I saw of the gens sitting there today.

 

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[rareboy]

Heather Cox Richardson wraps up the current slide into chaos and fascism...Trump's and Hegseth's performance at Quantico show how much troubel the country is in.

The threats of using the military to quell 'radical leftists' as a legitimate mission of the armed forces irevocably puts the civilian population and the ilitary on a crash course.

Definitely worth a read today. But pretty dark and dire.

September 30, 2025

Last Thursday, September 25, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth suddenly announced he was calling about 800 of the nation’s top military generals and admirals, along with their top enlisted advisors, to meet at Marine Corps Base Quantico, in Virginia, today.

heathercoxrichardson.substack.com

 

[rareboy]

And various retired military leaders were also unimpressed with the disastrous public relations stunt.

Pittard said it was well within the authority of a defense secretary to call a meeting of generals, but that the display was “egotistical” and a waste of resources. And Trump’s subsequent comments created “a dangerous, slippery slope … to make it so partisan”, he said.

Veterans react to Hegseth’s ‘insulting’ address to generals and admirals

Defense secretary’s speech touching on physical fitness and doctrine of lethality was seen as ‘egotistical’ and ‘dangerous’

www.theguardian.com

 

[rareboy]

Hertling on the aftermath suggests there could be a revolt and says what so many of us were thinking.

This public dressing down of the military and attempt to separate the military from the people they are supposed to fight for in wars is really, really disturbing and unprecedented.

'Can't do that': Hegseth gets warning of possible military revolt after speech demands

According to retired United States Army Lt. General Mark Hertling, there is a strong possibility that members of the military leadership who listened to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s controversial speech in Quantico, Virginia, walked away planning ways to ignore some of his demands.Speaking...

www.rawstory.com

And was it all just pretext for a coup by Trump?

Trump hinted at plans to cancel 2028 election while talking to generals: Dem

President Donald Trump's speech to hundreds of the US' top generals on Tuesday hinted at plans to cancel the 2028 election, according to Democratic Rep. Dan Goldman of New York. In an appearance on The Jim Acosta Show on Tuesday, Goldman said the speech appeared to be preparing the ground for an...

www.rawstory.com

 

[KaraBulut]

Some people are saying the quiet part out loud.

We went through some tense moments last year when we questioned whether Joe Biden was of sound mind and whether he would live long enough to survive another term as President. It was already a sane proposition: that an 81 year old man was even considering running for another 4 year term.

A lot of us who have seen aging of family, friends and patients asked how electing a 79 year old man was preferable to electing an 81 year old man.

Now, 800 generals and anyone who watched the livestream of yesterday's performance are asking the same thing.

The Commander in Chief Is Not Okay

Trump put on a disturbing show for America’s generals and admirals.

www.theatlantic.com

The Commander in Chief Is Not Okay​

Trump put on a disturbing show for America’s generals and admirals.

...The president talked at length, and his comments should have confirmed to even the most sympathetic observer that he is, as the kids say, not okay. Several of Hegseth’s people said in advance of the senior-officer conclave that its goal was to energize America’s top military leaders and get them to focus on Hegseth’s vision for a new Department of War. But the generals and admirals should be forgiven if they walked out of the auditorium and wondered: What on earth is wrong with the commander in chief?

Trump seemed quieter and more confused than usual; he is not accustomed to audiences who do not clap and react to obvious applause lines. “I’ve never walked into a room so silent before,” he said at the outset...

In 1973, an Air Force nuclear-missile officer named Harold Hering asked a simple question during a training session: “How can I know that an order I receive to launch my missiles came from a sane president?” The question cost him his career. Military members are trained to execute orders, not question them. But today, both the man who can order the use of nuclear arms and the man who would likely verify such an order gave disgraceful and unnerving performances in Quantico. How many officers left the room asking themselves Major Hering’s question?

"This could have been a Zoom call".

Hundreds of Generals Try to Keep a Straight Face

Pete Hegseth gathered commanders from around the globe to unveil new physical-fitness standards.

www.theatlantic.com

Hundreds of Generals Try to Keep a Straight Face

Pete Hegseth gathered commanders from around the globe to unveil new physical-fitness standards.

...Hegseth, who is the subject of a soon-to-be-released investigation by the Pentagon’s inspector general over his sharing of attack plans on a Signal chat that inadvertently included The Atlantic’s editor in chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, said that he would reform the IG process because, as he saw it, official investigations had “been weaponized, putting complainers, ideologues, and poor performers in the driver’s seat.” He also announced measures to alter promotion and disciplinary processes, providing greater leeway for troops accused of wrongdoing. Immediately afterward, the Defense Department issued seven memos codifying Hegseth’s remarks, including a 60-day review of training standards and a 30-day review of how the department defines bullying and hazing, which Hegseth believes has wrongly resulted in disciplinary action for troops being tough on subordinates or being politically incorrect.

After listing the proposed changes, Hegseth gave the assembled officers a warning: “If the words I’m speaking today are making your hearts sink, then you should do the honorable thing and resign.” If the commanders wanted to better understand what he was saying, he jokingly told them, they could pick up a copy of his book...

 

[rareboy]

I mean...Trump's speech was so unhinged that no one could think he is capable or competent to lead any military command....in his own words:

Diagramming a Historically Horrific Speech

Both Dangerous and Deranged

davidpepper.substack.com

 

[rareboy]

Meanwhile:

A First Amendment case from Tuesday highlights the dangerous path the Trump administration is trying to take to carve away first amendment rights.

"This case—perhaps the most important ever to fall within the jurisdiction of this district court—squarely presents the issue whether non-citizens lawfully present here in [the] United States actually have the same free speech rights as the rest of us," Young wrote in his opinion. "The Court answers this Constitutional question unequivocally ‘yes, they do.’ ‘No law’ means ‘no law.’ The First Amendment does not draw President Trump’s invidious distinction, and it is not to be found in our history or jurisprudence.”

'It was dark': Judge's 'chilling' response to Trump's lawyers stuns experts

A federal judge ruled that President Donald Trump's administration violated the First Amendment rights of pro-Palestinian students who are in the country on student visas by attempting to deport them. But, analysts on Wednesday were more stunned by the language the judge used in his opinion than...

www.rawstory.com

Eventually, I can see this one being forced upwards to the SC by TrumpCo. in order to limit free speech...which, once established as possible, will become inevitable for any class of people the Executive decides they want to silence.

 

[rareboy]

Harmann's essay on the US descent into fascism hits a lot of familiar notes, but is worth a read.

America on the Brink: Trump’s Roadmap to Recession, Fascism, and World War III

We must call this what it is: a full-scale assault on our economy, our democracy, and the peaceful world order that’s prevented a third world war for nearly 80 years…

hartmannreport.com

 

[rareboy]

We are watching all this in horror.

 

[NotHardUp1]

More disgusting petty shit:

https://www.kake.com/home/director-...cle_aeb27e44-8f75-4ad8-b4f9-b6ac81a53285.html

 

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