Robin Roberts, Jason Collins,Derrick Gordon, Michael Sam dating white gays why?

[MoufOfKhaos]

I don't see why people would be persuaded by anything Morrisey has to say in the first place, but that's just me.

 

[Willie Boy]

This is what is sad so few black gay public figures that are out and they ALL date whites that is messed up.

What if they dated white guys that ISN'T all messed up? And remember, if you don't have black gays dating white gays you wont have any white guys dating black gays. There are two sides to that coin. Either its OK for a black to choose white, or it isn't OK for a white to choose black. You can't have one without the other.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

What if they dated white guys that ISN'T all messed up? And remember, if you don't have black gays dating white gays you wont have any white guys dating black gays. There are two sides to that coin. Either its OK for a black to choose white, or it isn't OK for a white to choose black. You can't have one without the other.

Comparing the inverse makes no sense as they are two completely different cultures.

I do not agree with the author that the people he mentioned specifically are guilty of this, I assumed he was using them as aesthetic examples, but the underlying attitude he is trying to address is one of rejection and inferiority. The notion that a white lover is some sort of trophy you naturally collect when you've finally "made it." A symbol that you're above your peers who are still stuck slumming it with a black lover. I wish I could tell you guys how many straight black guys I've seen brag about their white girlfriends as if they were a Heisman trophy. I'm not making this up, their peers who are still dating sisters look at them with awe and reverence, like this man has been to the promised land and drank from rivers of gold and honey.

The choice to date is not being called into question here, rather the motive. The culture behind such a motive. I would be all aboard the let-it-go-live-and-let-live train if this country didn't have a longstanding and well-documented history of portraying blacks as ugly undesirable social misfits and whites as the embodiment of beauty and status. If such attitudes still persist, why shouldn't we confront them? Because the topic makes people uncomfortable?

 

[IamNoah]

The topic makes people in interracial relationships suspect--it also opens all the weirdness around "Is there something wrong with being primarily/exclusively attracted white men?" (and this second part is much less likely to produce a reasoned and calm response than certain other conversations about race)

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

The topic makes people in interracial relationships suspect--it also opens all the weirdness around "Is there something wrong with being primarily/exclusively attracted white men?" (and this second part is much less likely to produce a reasoned and calm response than certain other conversations about race)

Gurrrrrrrl is dem yo cakez???

 

[xbuzzerx]

Comparing the inverse makes no sense as they are two completely different cultures.

I do not agree with the author that the people he mentioned specifically are guilty of this, I assumed he was using them as aesthetic examples, but the underlying attitude he is trying to address is one of rejection and inferiority. The notion that a white lover is some sort of trophy you naturally collect when you've finally "made it." A symbol that you're above your peers who are still stuck slumming it with a black lover. I wish I could tell you guys how many straight black guys I've seen brag about their white girlfriends as if they were a Heisman trophy. I'm not making this up, their peers who are still dating sisters look at them with awe and reverence, like this man has been to the promised land and drank from rivers of gold and honey.

The choice to date is not being called into question here, rather the motive. The culture behind such a motive. I would be all aboard the let-it-go-live-and-let-live train if this country didn't have a longstanding and well-documented history of portraying blacks as ugly undesirable social misfits and whites as the embodiment of beauty and status. If such attitudes still persist, why shouldn't we confront them? Because the topic makes people uncomfortable?

I think it's entirely valid to question the cultural attitudes, programming, and messaging that creates this "hierarchy" of beauty or desirability. But I feel the entire presentation of this thread only indirectly sought to do that at all, in the form of attacking people like Michael Sam and simply presuming them all guilty of propagating these patterns on purpose in a harmful or sellout fashion because of who they are involved with romantically.

We should question racist underpinnings to the beauty standard and to the sense of social class as it pertains to race in the United States. What we should not do is seek out every minority with a white partner and attack them as some kind of race traitor, which is what I feel Morrissey basically did.

 

[IamNoah]

Gurrrrrrrl is dem yo cakez???

Yes and no. They belong to me. I'm the only one that uses them, but I didn't grow them. Mine are (slightly) browner and fuller. But I'm shy and have no self-esteem, remember?

Also we are looking for a bottom to share on Grindr, we already have one for tonight, but you can fill out the application for another time.

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Yes and no. They belong to me. I'm the only one that uses them, but I didn't grow them. Mine are (slightly) browner and fuller. But I'm shy and have no self-esteem, remember?

Also we are looking for a bottom to share on Grindr, we already have one for tonight, but you can fill out the application for another time.

Shooooot, lemme get my hair did get myself cute then if yall doin interviews

 

[IamNoah]

Shooooot, lemme get my hair did get myself cute then if yall doin interviews

The young transwoman you've posted here hasn't been told to match her foundation to her skintone, not her aspirations, lol. If she's not careful she'll look like a mime.

 

[JPGhost]

Thread needs a young-fine-ripped-black men to sing

 

[JPGhost]

Thread's theme song:

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

Thread needs a young-fine-ripped-black men to sing

Did it have to be that skank though? There are so many better looking black gay men who, ya know, don't participate in the perpetualization of homophobia through the church.

 

[JPGhost]

^
he has bad history? I didn't know that

 

[fabulouslyghetto]

^
he has bad history? I didn't know that

Aside from having a Hollywood attitude, yes she is an actress from the Tyler Perry franchise, she played straight for years until an angry ex outed her, even still she refuses to acknowledge her sexuality or use her position as a public figure to call attention to important lgbt causes. Last I heard she's losing herself in the LA party circuit like most pseudo-celebs when they know their 15 is almost up.

 

[Gentleheart]

Maybe we can tackle internalized homophobia next, regarding gay men who like to repeatedly refer to other men as females. I'm sure that's just as harmful to our community as 'dating discrimination' and race 'relations'.

 

[Willie Boy]

Comparing the inverse makes no sense as they are two completely different cultures.

Except that you can not have one without the other. You can't have blacks dating whites without also having whites dating blacks. And to insist the only reason blacks are dating whites is to become important...... Then what fucking reason would whites have to "date down" to such an extent as to provide said benefit to their partner? If the only reason these couples exist is because the black individual gets to jump up in standing, what incentive does the white have in the equation? What could be so valuable that he/she would willingly take the social hit on behalf of this "undesirable".

To get me to even consider there is anything less than a mutual desire to be with each other that is the question that needs to be answered, otherwise the suggestion can't hold water.

 

[IamNoah]

Thread needs a young-fine-ripped-black men to sing

This man is ugly.

 

[refujiunderground]

This man is ugly.

just because you're not attracted to black men doesn't mean that he's ugly. you're mentally ugly.

 

[Willie Boy]

This man is ugly.

He's not my cup of tea, but I have to admit he is a handsome guy.

 

[xbuzzerx]

Except that you can not have one without the other. You can't have blacks dating whites without also having whites dating blacks.

White Americans were statistically the least likely to wed interracially, though in absolute terms they were involved in interracial marriages more than any other racial group due to their demographic majority. 2.1% of married White women and 2.3% of married White men had a non-White spouse. 1.0% of all married White men were married to an Asian American woman, and 1.0% of married White women were married to a man classified as "other".

4.6% of married Black American women and 10.8% of married Black American men had a non-Black spouse. 8.5% of married Black men and 3.9% of married Black women had a White spouse. 0.2% of married Black women were married to Asian American men, representing the least prevalent marital combination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial_marriage_in_the_United_States#Census_Bureau_statistics

Blacks are 2-4x more likely to date interracially than whites.

So simply saying "since all black-white couples have 1 black partner and 1 white partner, blacks and whites are equally attracted to and open to dating each other on a 1:1 basis" is a pretty fundamental flaw in your math.