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Romney is being interviewed by Piers Morgan on CNN right now. I've always liked Piers Morgan as an Interviewer, and really like his program. I took transcript of the segment, and here's how it played out:
PM: How many times can you [flip-flop] on an issue before you lose credibility?"
Piers brought up Abortion, Healthcare, and then all he said was "Gay Rights."
MR: I've always been in favor of preventing discrimination whether they are homosexual or straight.... at the same time, I said I believe that marriage is a relationship between one man and one woman, and that position has not changed. I read now and then that I've changed my mind on gay rights, and that's simply not true. I am in favor of gay rights, but I believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman.
PM: Yeah, but given that most gays would love the right now to legally get married in many states, you're not in favor of all gay rights, are you?
MR: And at the time when I ran for office, I made that very clear. I met with leaders of the gay community...
PM: Yeah but when you say I'm in favor of gay rights, you're not. You're in favor of some.
MR: What happened was the gay community changed their perspective as to what they wanted. When I ran for governor one of the big issues was gay marriage. My opponent said she signed a bill in favor of gay marriage. I said I would not. That I oppose same sex marriage. At the same time, I would advance the efforts not to discriminate against people who are gay. But marriage...
PM: What is the gay right you are in favor of?
MR: Well equal rights in employment. For instance, as the governor, I had members of my team that were gay. I appointed a couple of judges who I find out, a couple of them were gay. Look, I didn't ask people their sexual orientation...
PM: Does your faith mean that you view homosexuality as a sin?
MR: Ya know, I... I... I... separate quite distinctly matters of personal faith from the leadership that one has in a political sense.
PM: Can you do that?
MR: Absolutely
PM: Seriously?
MR: Oh don't begin to apply the doctrines of a religion to the responsibily for guiding a nation or guiding a state.
PM: What is the mormon position on homosexuality being a sin?
MR: You know thats something you can take up with the church. I'm not a spokesman for my church.
PM: Do you know?
MR: I'm not a spokesman for my church. And one thing I'm not going to do in running for president is become a spokesperson for my church or imply a religious test which simply is forbidden by the constitution.
PM: Let me ask you then, do you personally think homosexuality is a sin?
MR: Nice try, but I'm not gonna get into... (starts to laugh)
PM: Whats so funny?
MR: Its a valid question and my answer is nice try.
PM: Nice try at what?
MR: I... I'm here to tell you as a leader of the american people I will do everything in my power to treat all people with respect and dignity and to advance the rights people have to choose their own course in life.
PM: There are people watching hearing you say "nice try", saying, 'Well, why doesn't he just answer the question?'
MR: Well, if you say to me Do you think Adultery is a sin? Do you think someone who uh uh does something you disagree with with is a sin? Look, those are terms in the religious context. I'm not here in a religious context. I'm here as a candidate for President. And as a candidate for PResident, or as a President, I would have to represent the interest of all the people. I don't distinguish between sin and sinner as I'm looking at a President.
PM: So, if you were made President, you wouldn't make any pronouncement whatsoever, of a personal nature about any form of personal behavior?
MR: Well, I'm not quite sure what you're referring to
PM: Well, if everytime I ask if you so and so is a sin and you hide all that behind the judicial of belief.
MR: It's hard for me to imagine describing something as a sin in the political sense. You can talk about something being wrong, about something being evil. There are murderers, that's evil and that's wrong... it also happens to be a sin according to most religions, but but if the terminology is religious terminology, thats probably not something that would figure into public policy.
I have to hand it to Morgan, who wouldn't let up on the issue and tried to get Romney to the bottom of it. More so, I think Romney clearly stated his position... he quickly categorized a conversation about homosexuality as a sin into the same category as murderers.
Just an interesting conversation, and I appreciate Piers Morgan for pressing him more intently to state a position. Either way, we know Romney certainly doesn't have our back.
PM: How many times can you [flip-flop] on an issue before you lose credibility?"
Piers brought up Abortion, Healthcare, and then all he said was "Gay Rights."
MR: I've always been in favor of preventing discrimination whether they are homosexual or straight.... at the same time, I said I believe that marriage is a relationship between one man and one woman, and that position has not changed. I read now and then that I've changed my mind on gay rights, and that's simply not true. I am in favor of gay rights, but I believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman.
PM: Yeah, but given that most gays would love the right now to legally get married in many states, you're not in favor of all gay rights, are you?
MR: And at the time when I ran for office, I made that very clear. I met with leaders of the gay community...
PM: Yeah but when you say I'm in favor of gay rights, you're not. You're in favor of some.
MR: What happened was the gay community changed their perspective as to what they wanted. When I ran for governor one of the big issues was gay marriage. My opponent said she signed a bill in favor of gay marriage. I said I would not. That I oppose same sex marriage. At the same time, I would advance the efforts not to discriminate against people who are gay. But marriage...
PM: What is the gay right you are in favor of?
MR: Well equal rights in employment. For instance, as the governor, I had members of my team that were gay. I appointed a couple of judges who I find out, a couple of them were gay. Look, I didn't ask people their sexual orientation...
PM: Does your faith mean that you view homosexuality as a sin?
MR: Ya know, I... I... I... separate quite distinctly matters of personal faith from the leadership that one has in a political sense.
PM: Can you do that?
MR: Absolutely
PM: Seriously?
MR: Oh don't begin to apply the doctrines of a religion to the responsibily for guiding a nation or guiding a state.
PM: What is the mormon position on homosexuality being a sin?
MR: You know thats something you can take up with the church. I'm not a spokesman for my church.
PM: Do you know?
MR: I'm not a spokesman for my church. And one thing I'm not going to do in running for president is become a spokesperson for my church or imply a religious test which simply is forbidden by the constitution.
PM: Let me ask you then, do you personally think homosexuality is a sin?
MR: Nice try, but I'm not gonna get into... (starts to laugh)
PM: Whats so funny?
MR: Its a valid question and my answer is nice try.
PM: Nice try at what?
MR: I... I'm here to tell you as a leader of the american people I will do everything in my power to treat all people with respect and dignity and to advance the rights people have to choose their own course in life.
PM: There are people watching hearing you say "nice try", saying, 'Well, why doesn't he just answer the question?'
MR: Well, if you say to me Do you think Adultery is a sin? Do you think someone who uh uh does something you disagree with with is a sin? Look, those are terms in the religious context. I'm not here in a religious context. I'm here as a candidate for President. And as a candidate for PResident, or as a President, I would have to represent the interest of all the people. I don't distinguish between sin and sinner as I'm looking at a President.
PM: So, if you were made President, you wouldn't make any pronouncement whatsoever, of a personal nature about any form of personal behavior?
MR: Well, I'm not quite sure what you're referring to
PM: Well, if everytime I ask if you so and so is a sin and you hide all that behind the judicial of belief.
MR: It's hard for me to imagine describing something as a sin in the political sense. You can talk about something being wrong, about something being evil. There are murderers, that's evil and that's wrong... it also happens to be a sin according to most religions, but but if the terminology is religious terminology, thats probably not something that would figure into public policy.
I have to hand it to Morgan, who wouldn't let up on the issue and tried to get Romney to the bottom of it. More so, I think Romney clearly stated his position... he quickly categorized a conversation about homosexuality as a sin into the same category as murderers.
Just an interesting conversation, and I appreciate Piers Morgan for pressing him more intently to state a position. Either way, we know Romney certainly doesn't have our back.
