Romney's Speech Insures His election

[CowboyBob]

As usual, Jon Stewart's summary of Romney's speech is the best I've seen so far.



The Bill O'Reilly clip in this piece is gold. And within 8 days of Obama's signing in in 2008, Mitt Romney was criticising Obama's "failed policies".

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100 days into the Obama Presidency Sean Hannity airs an Obama smear video with the theme to The Omen playing in the background.

Six weeks after the President was elected Bill O'Reilly was complaining about how Obama hasn't fixed the economy after 8 years of Bush.

EIGHT days after President Obama was elected was the famous "I hope he fails" smear by the Drugster, Romney is asked about it and says "Rush is partially right".

 

[Lostlover]

100 days into the Obama Presidency Sean Hannity airs an Obama smear video with the theme to The Omen playing in the background.

Six weeks after the President was elected Bill O'Reilly was complaining about how Obama hasn't fixed the economy after 8 years of Bush.

EIGHT days after President Obama was elected was the famous "I hope he fails" smear by the Drugster, Romney is asked about it and says "Rush is partially right".

6 months into President Obama's presidency, Michelle Malkin had a book published called Culture of Corruption. What makes matters worse is that the book probably took longer than 6 months because she had to research (if she did at all), write and then edit it before sending it to print. So, basically, she started writing about President Obama's corruption as president before he became president.

 

[CowboyBob]

6 months into President Obama's presidency, Michelle Malkin wrote Culture of Coruption. What makes matters worse is that the book probably took longer than 6 months because she had to research (if she did at all), write and then edit it before sending it to print. So, basically, she started writing about President Obama's corruption as president before he became president.

It's not hatred of the President's policies, it's hatred of the man himself. There are some on here that claim they hate the President because of his "failed" policies, but they're the same ones mocking him for what he did as a little boy. They claim he's not American.

And most of it comes from the fact is he's not lily white. And there's nothing a racist hates more than being called a racist.

Karl [STRIKE]Marx[/STRIKE] Rove is using the old divide and conquer technique. Get the commoners to fight amongst themselves while the zillionaires take over the country.

 

[CowboyBob]

Wow that's a good one. Already manufactured bullsh*t. Culture of Corruption lmao... you would think she was writing on the prior administration. And definite intellectual dishonesty... how could any publisher allow such crap to go to print?

Her book was published by conservative publishing house Regnery Publishing. They have published many books by right wing radicals like Haley Barbour, Ann Coulter, Newt Gingrich, etc. If it wasn't for this company these hate pieces probably wouldn't go to press.

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Check out some of the other stuff they publish:

Welcome to Regnery Publishing

They try to frighten people then prey on their fright to make money. So if you want to make a fast buck, write a book bashing President Obama. They'll publish it. It's right wing propaganda.

ADDED:

In the 1950's they were great for publishing anti-communist literature. They exploited that like McCarthy did.

 

[chance1]

Romney's children already own a trust valued in excess of $100 million, in addition to whatever their father bequeaths to them in his will. In 2010 Romney invested $10 million in the start-up of the Solamere Founders Fund, co-founded by their eldest son, Tagg. Solamere is now a part of Ann Romney's blind trust, despite the fact that it is owned and administered by her son. Lets hope they don't talk business around the family dinner table, because that would be illegal.

I think Romney's family is doing just fine.

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Rich is not evil

It's good

And as YOU know he was not talking about HiS children

He was talking to Americans about their children

But you know that

Dead + 1

 

[Lostlover]

Wow that's a good one. Already manufactured bullsh*t. Culture of Corruption lmao... you would think she was writing on the prior administration. And definite intellectual dishonesty... how could any publisher allow such crap to go to print?

All about the mighty dollar. I can't blame them, but at the same time if I was in their shoes, I'd ask the author, "Don't you want to wait until the year mark before making an assessment on the new president?"

 

[Kulindahr]

Why would anybody say that? Why would a President of the United States, any president, ever ever say such a thing? Why would you think that anyone who wants to be president would ever really say or believe such a ridiculous thing?

CAN YOU EVEN HEAR YOURSELF??

He can't even hear the president's speech.

 

[Kulindahr]

More from what non-deaders considered a good to great speech

Mitt likes the President - he has made a "concession" that he's a good man - and he is - he's just on the wrong path - and hit Hope and Change bumper sticker - well half is currently correct - "change" is in order - if the Pres. can resteer the boat well by all means

‘‘The president hasn’t disappointed you because he wanted to. The president has disappointed America because he hasn’t led America in the right direction. He took office without the basic qualification that most Americans have and one that was essential to his task. He had almost no experience working in a business. Jobs to him are about government. I learned the real lessons about how America works from experience.’’

I looked at the speech from the standpoint of someone who used to do speech competition.

Let's look at the piece you cited here:

"The president ... hasn't led America in the right direction." That's falsehood by misdirection: we don't know what direction Obama would have led in, because the Republicans made a past to ensure that the country wouldn't follow.

"He took office without the basic qualification that most Americans have and one that was essential to his task. He had almost no experience working in a business." Well, the businessmen we've had in the White House before have screwed the country pretty well, so that's not much of a qualification. America is not a business, and very few business principles apply to running any country. In fact the House Republicans have given a magnificent demonstration that America can't be run by a business -- no business would survive when part of the board decided they weren't going to let the company make any new decisions, to let the company ever change anything. If Republicans think government should be run like a business, they've disqualified themselves.

"Jobs to him are about government.’’ Jobs to Romney are about government -- he made that plain in his speech, with the ludicrous assertion that he would create many millions of jobs. If jobs aren't about government, his claim is an obvious lie. In truth, though, jobs are about government -- Eisenhower, John Kennedy, and Lyndon Johnson proved that by constantly improving the country's infrastructure, and as a result business boomed and jobs were abundant. In fact, the record shows that if the government is significantly improving infrastructure, a tax burden of 3/4 doesn't stall the economy.

"I learned the real lessons about how America works from experience." Well, no, he didn't -- he never worked for a business like most Americans any more than Obama did. Very few Americans are in the business of vulture capitalism. Very few Americans have made a company a "success" by blackmailing the federal government and a batch of big banks. Very few Americans have built a fortune by manipulating the law to suck cash out of companies and leaving the taxpayers holding the bag. Very few Americans have managed to lie to the IRS in order to get millions of dollars in benefits.


This part can only count as a "good speech" to the ignorant and shallow-minded. It's built on false claims and deception.

 

[Kulindahr]

community organizing is not profit motivated - save for the back room deals and behind the scenes payoffs

Business is designed to make money, expand, put people to work, there's a P/(L) with focus on the P

you expand and hire contractors to build - more employees to work

Capitalism is what the country is built on - it separates us from other nations frankly

it's what this country needs MORE of right now - because "everybody is a winner" isn't a strategy it's an anchor around our neck

‘‘To the majority of Americans who now believe that the future will not be better than the past, I can guarantee you this: if Barack Obama is re-elected, you will be right. I am running for president to help create a better future. A future where everyone who wants a job can find one. Where no senior fears for the security of their retirement. An America where every parent knows that their child will get an education that leads them to a good job and a bright horizon. And unlike the president, I have a plan to create 12 million new jobs. ‘‘

Countries aren't designed to make money. They are not capitalist organizations. If You and ROmney want us to think so, then you and he should be proposing to hire all the unemployed and putting them to work so the government can make a profit (and do away with everyone's taxes). You should be insisting that the government buy every failing or troubled company and either turning them around or dismantling them to sell off.

If you really want to compare "capitalist" with "community organizer" for leading the country, I'd like to remind you of something:

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

In simple terms, they had a community, and they organized it. So the Founding Fathers and the Framers and all those early Americans who voted to ratify that Constitution were...

community organizers.

 

[Kulindahr]

‘‘To the majority of Americans who now believe that the future will not be better than the past, I can guarantee you this: if Barack Obama is re-elected, you will be right. I am running for president to help create a better future. A future where everyone who wants a job can find one. Where no senior fears for the security of their retirement. An America where every parent knows that their child will get an education that leads them to a good job and a bright horizon. And unlike the president, I have a plan to create 12 million new jobs. ‘‘

BTW, I count five lies or outlandish mendacities in there. According to numerous analyses of Romney's economic policies, in the first two years of his administration the US economy would LOSE some three million jobs. According to the numbers Ryan calls a budget, everyone should fear for their retirement, and education will take heavy blows.

 

[Kulindahr]

You don't need to be a marxist to realize that all those firms, including the likes of Bain Capital, were not selling improved economic output. They were selling improved balance sheets. They were selling their ability to sweep problems under the carpet.

And when it became apparent that these illusory financial transactions couldn't sweep anything else under the carpet, they caused the economy to seize up completely.

Quite so -- Bain was built on looking to the next quarter, not to the full future.

At the time, it was a useful function (which is why Bill CLinton called Romney a good businessman), because it cleaned out dead and rotten wood from the economy while helping show how taking the short look is not healthy for a business. But now, that kind of capitalism is bad for the economy -- so Romney's "experience" is irrelevant.

Obama did prevent that, by bailing out a bunch of companies that spent most of the last 15 years whining and lobbying to get rid of government, moaning that government does too much and costs too much and regulates too much and intrudes too much. Well, government saved their asses.

Though I would argue, if you want me to prove my capitalist credo, that Obama's response was wrong when Wall Street came begging for more socialism.

I would say that he who lives by deregulation should die by deregulation. All those banks who couldn't figure out who owned the rotten debt were given a free pass to squirm out of it with government money. Yes they paid it back and returned a profit to the US taxpayers, but on the principle of the thing, they should have been told to fuck off.

Actually, most of them still owe it; it's been paid back oin paper, but only becauase they used (very Romney-like) other government loans to pay those government loans.

But yes, they should have been faced with the consequences of their shenanigans. You want America run like a business? Well, a business dissolves divisions that have become extreme liabilities, so ....

And they should have been told if they didn't figure out who owned the rotten debt, take their losses, liquidate their shareholders, and then recapitalize on the open market, that the government would not only refuse to bail them out to keep the economy moving, but would compete with them to restore the lending market to normalcy.

Basically "Figure it the fuck out and start lending again, or I will lend instead."

That would have provided sufficient motivation for the shareholders to hold these executives, cut from the same cloth as Romney, to account.

LOL Brilliant.

 

[Kulindahr]

Absolutely. They are in bed with the man running for office.

And have you guys heard about this bombshell?

Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads

So Romney pals around with terrorists.

 

[Benvolio]

Absolutely. They are in bed with the man running for office.

And have you guys heard about this bombshell?

Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads

Not nice people but they were defending against a comminist take-over which would have been far worse.

 

[Rolyo85]

You know what? This isn't exactly the place to have that argument, but YES, I think it is. Nobody can tell you how dedicated you are to your partner, but when the government, society, even your friends and neighbors see your relationship as nothing - not legitimate, not even existing - it does seep into your psyche. It's hard to see yourself as equal when nobody else - OR the law - does.

 

[rareboy]

not that I'm not pro-gay marriage, but is recognition of a marriage by the government really necessary to consider yourself part of a family?

It is not necessary for you to feel part of a family.

It is necessary to make sure that others recognize your rights as a family.

 

[rareboy]

That's such a horrendous excuse for what the military junta did to its people. The FMLN would have been (and are better now as the sitting President Mauricio Funes is part of the FMLN) then the military junta. You don't know the history of that region and with comments like these it's just obvious.

What the junta did was unspeakable. And the fact that you show up defending their disgusting actions shows your utter disregard for human life. All in the defense against a so called "communist" take-over.

And those families were part of death squads that executed people without regard and also killed a notable religious figure in the country. Defense against communism... what bullsh*t.

I don't know why you even bother.

The BOT Benvolio would defend Hitler if he were a Republican.

 

[Lostlover]

Absolutely. They are in bed with the man running for office.

And have you guys heard about this bombshell?

Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads

The more you read about Romney, the more ridiculous it gets. And the so called liberal media hasn't touched up on any of this.

Thanks for the link.

 

[Ninja108]

not that I'm not pro-gay marriage, but is recognition of a marriage by the government really necessary to consider yourself part of a family?

No but when it comes to taxes,hospital rights and 1,300 other things straight couples get..yes. And the few civil rights we do have..the Republicians want to destroy.

 

[Lostlover]

that story seems to amount to:

-Bain Capital took money from people in El Salvador
-some people in El Salvador employed death squads in the 70's and 80's
-Mitt Romney is collecting money from death squads

I know a lot of this forum seems to revolve around "whatever I feel must be fact," but I'd be incredulous at the idea that a reputable journal would print that story without at least the shred of a direct connection beyond insinuation and guilt by association.

Did you even read the article? There was no insinuation. Roughly 6 million dollars came from South American oligarchs tied to violence. Where's the insinuation?

 

[rareboy]

BTW, I count five lies or outlandish mendacities in there. According to numerous analyses of Romney's economic policies, in the first two years of his administration the US economy would LOSE some three million jobs. According to the numbers Ryan calls a budget, everyone should fear for their retirement, and education will take heavy blows.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it

-Joseph Goebbels.