Ron Paul vs Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke on Inflation

[MystikWizard]

It's like I said ... if you think you can, than you have a chance and can accomplish your goal.

If you think you can't, then you most definitely won't. It's unfortunate most of America, due to whatever reason, gives up the Good Fight without even fighting it.

 

[RandomAccess]

I don’t think any vote made in good conscience is wasted.

I truly understand what you're saying, but respectfully disagree. Other than forcing other (shall we say "mainstream?") candidates to confront certain issues, I see no point in voting for Dennis Kucinich, or Ron Paul, even though I like and respect both guys. Kucinich is the closest match to my political ideals, but I'm enough of a realist to recognise that it makes him "idealistic." I'll take what I can get from a solid candidate who comes as close as possible to my political beliefs. I'll accept that my own ideals are "marginal." I'll gladly trade my ideals for the security that I'm voting for the candidate who has the best chance of furthering my overall agenda. I'll stick to Hillary.

There's far more to my decision than that. . . but I think you get the idea.

 

[PER4MER]

Yeah. But I think we're using the ignore feature on different people!

When one understands that GA has his tongue deeply burried in his cheek with every post (even though he's usually right) it's not so bad. If you look past his impersonation of neocons (the misogyny bit) he's really quite funny (I loved his "kiss me where it stinks" comment the other day)! Don't believe for a second that GA's a misogynist. He's just throwing right wing tactics back at them. As we say in AA, "take what's good, and leave the rest."

Others on the forum use deep-seated hatred and self-loathing to season their venom. These I choose to "ignore."

When GA pretty much called me a liar on this board a few months ago, in reference to a story related to Tucker Carlson, his tongue was nowhere near his cheek. He meant every one of his misguided words.

And let's just say that you and I have different definitions of "humor" and leave it at that. I usually enjoy humor in which innocent parties aren't denigrated. You're free to have your own opinion.

 

[opinterph]

I see no point in voting for … the closest match to my political ideals …

I'll gladly trade my ideals for the security …

Though I honestly appreciate your sentiment, it does not coincide with the method I will use to determine my vote.

I don’t think any vote made in good conscience is wasted.

On a philosophical level I would agree, but perhaps not on a practical level … Nader actively campaigned in Florida in the closing days, and he got 97,000 votes. Al Gore lost by 500 votes. In that election, truly, a vote for Nader was a vote for Bush.

With any close election result, it is easy to discover “what-ifs.”

If it is true that Gore lost Florida by a mere 537 votes, it seems just as convenient to blame the loss on those individuals who cast their ballot for the socialist and [self-described] homosexual atheist, David McReynolds of New York. And let’s not forget the nearly 50,000 Bush votes cast by the Log Cabin crowd. But, regardless of whether other people voted the way you or I may have preferred – they participated in the process. I regard that as commendable, particularly when contrasted with the more than 350,000 registered Florida voters who were “too busy” to cast a ballot that day.

 

[Kulindahr]

Paul has a very good point that wasn't really responded to: inflation, driven by a money supply that has to expand faster than necessary due to so many dollars being held overseas, devastates people on limited and fixed incomes.
As an example, my disability income has remained constant in number of dollars for a decade, which means that every year it's harder to get by. The Bush tax cut helped, but even that advantage will disappear in a few years thanks to constant inflation.
Somehow we need a limit on the expansion of the money supply. There's no point in having it expand faster than the population... but then how do we count that, with all the illegals coming in?
People like Bernanke may feel that 1.5% inflation is acceptable, but to a lot of people that's just progressive torture. Paul recognizes that, but got no answer.