San Francisco or Montreal?

[soulseeker]

So far I have narrowed my choice to these two, can you tell me the advantage and dis-advantage of each?

I luv French and French-Canadian is freaking hot

 

[SilverWolf]

What happened to Germany?

 

[cityboy-stl]

So far I have narrowed my choice to these two, can you tell me the advantage and dis-advantage of each?

I luv French and French-Canadian is freaking hot

So are you going just for the men or for some other reason?

 

[Puzuzzu]

Lots of good looking English people here too!

 

[soulseeker]

The men, the weather, the people, the earthquake, ... etc

 

[soulseeker]

Like a sun flower in a dark alley

 

[zoltanspawn]

better food and (imo) mass transit in Montreal.

I haven't been to Montreal and have no idea what the food is like there. What makes it better?

 

[3nipples]

Better food? http://electron.mit.edu/~gsteele/poutine/

 

[zoltanspawn]

Of course poutine is the most obvious argument, but I hope it's not the only one.

 

[ronboy]

Well, it's a trade-off.....

If you are going for the gay sex, then it's no contest....San Francisco is the place. (Montreal has a great gay life, but San Francisco's is just larger and more diverse)

If you are going for the food, shopping and different experiences, then Montreal is the place. (San Francisco is a beautiful city, but Montreal has more of an international feel with i's bi-cultural experiences. And not a single Montreal department store has been Macy-ized !)

 

[zoltanspawn]

If you are going for the food, shopping and different experiences, then Montreal is the place. (San Francisco is a beautiful city, but Montreal has more of an international feel with i's bi-cultural experiences. And not a single Montreal department store has been Macy-ized !)

Ronboy, same question if you don't mind. I haven't been, what makes the food better in Montreal?

I can think of a few things that makes SF a good food city, but I don't know anything about Montreal except the aforementioned gravy fries.

 

[Latimer]

If you're seriously thinking about moving there, you need to visit Montreal at it's worst, between mid-November and mid-February, to try out the weather. (I was in the city for a week once in late November and discovered for the first time what "chilled to the bone" meant, and the sky was also consistently, monotonously gray.) After that you need to experience July and August, all humidity and mosquitos. (I also visited once in August and felt like I needed four showers a day.) I understand from friends who've lived there--and I've had a number of them--that the town is best in Spring, when the sun finally shines again and the city warms up and everyone is out on the streets celebrating. (I bet it's like Helsinki in that way, almost manic in its brief pursuit of pleasure.) But making a life in a particular city rarely affords the luxury of avoiding the bad days and experiencing only the good ones...

San Francisco and the Bay Area? The climate's good enough (or at least not bad enough in certain areas) that weather need not be a deal-breaker the way it is in Montreal. I did both undergraduate and graduate work in the Bay Area, and spent a couple of summers working in San Francisco. These days I visit the Peninsula (south of the city) on business for a couple of days each month. The whole area from Marin across the Bay down to Santa Cruz can be extraordinarily beautiful and it can be an immensely satisfying and exciting place. It can also be smug, self-satisfied, sanctimonious and hugely (let me write that again, hugely) provincial, which is why, after grad school, I chose not to stay. I have friends who love it there, and who wouldn't live anyplace else. But for me, I'd rather just visit.

 

[DJ1990]

Well in San Francisco you have a bigger chance of being in a huge earthquake and dying a horrible death.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lAXStQCjr8&feature=related[/ame]

 

[galiciagay]

Well in San Francisco you have a bigger chance of being in a huge earthquake and dying a horrible death.

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tHIS VIDEO IS SO HORRIBLE!!

 

[soulseeker]

Ya earthquake is a deal breaker for me

 

[soulseeker]

If you're seriously thinking about moving there, you need to visit Montreal at it's worst, between mid-November and mid-February, to try out the weather. (I was in the city for a week once in late November and discovered for the first time what "chilled to the bone" meant, and the sky was also consistently, monotonously gray.) After that you need to experience July and August, all humidity and mosquitos. (I also visited once in August and felt like I needed four showers a day.) I understand from friends who've lived there--and I've had a number of them--that the town is best in Spring, when the sun finally shines again and the city warms up and everyone is out on the streets celebrating. (I bet it's like Helsinki in that way, almost manic in its brief pursuit of pleasure.) But making a life in a particular city rarely affords the luxury of avoiding the bad days and experiencing only the good ones...

San Francisco and the Bay Area? The climate's good enough (or at least not bad enough in certain areas) that weather need not be a deal-breaker the way it is in Montreal. I did both undergraduate and graduate work in the Bay Area, and spent a couple of summers working in San Francisco. These days I visit the Peninsula (south of the city) on business for a couple of days each month. The whole area from Marin across the Bay down to Santa Cruz can be extraordinarily beautiful and it can be an immensely satisfying and exciting place. It can also be smug, self-satisfied, sanctimonious and hugely (let me write that again, hugely) provincial, which is why, after grad school, I chose not to stay. I have friends who love it there, and who wouldn't live anyplace else. But for me, I'd rather just visit.

Can u elaborate on describing the city "provincial" ?
How hot are the guys in San Francs?

 

[moniker]

If you choose Montreal then be prepared to buy a sturdy vehicle like a Land Rover because the roads are the worst in North America.

 

[dragonpearls333]

If you're into the food scene, San Francisco is a fantastic city. It and New York are probably tied for the position of food capital of the US. This isn't restricted to just San Francisco; the food in the general Bay Area (Berkeley, Oakland, South Bay) is also pretty damn good.

It can get ridiculously pricey, though, and not just the high-quality food. Getting a quick lunch in the city will be expensive, and the quality isn't guaranteed.

I have never been to Montreal, so I can't compare it to San Francisco. But I have lived in the Bay Area all my life, and comparing it to other parts of the world I've been in, I can definitely say that it's overall a wonderful place to live. Fantastic weather, friendly people, diverse communities, and an overall welcoming environment to live in.

 

[ronboy]

Ronboy, same question if you don't mind. I haven't been, what makes the food better in Montreal?

I can think of a few things that makes SF a good food city, but I don't know anything about Montreal except the aforementioned gravy fries.

I thought that Soulseeker was seeking this advice.....

Well, anyway, Montreal has a wonderful assortment of international cuisine available. Yes, Quebec regional cooking does include poutine (and is is a mighty delicious guilty pleasure!), but how about a Montreal smoked beef sandwich from Schwartz's? It the Montreal equivalent of the Philadelphia Cheesesteak!

This is what Wiki has to say about it...

Examples of contemporary Quebec cuisine include pommes persillade (cubed potatoes fried and topped with persillade as a garnish), poutine (French fries topped with gravy and cheese curds), Le Riopelle de l'Isle cheese, and whippet cookies. Pizza-ghetti is a Quebec combination dish served in fast food and family restaurants. The Jewish community of Montreal has contributed Montreal-style bagels and smoked meat which is similar to pastrami. Barbecue is also popular in the Montreal area, usually utilizing baking, grilling, or grill-braising (combining a direct dry heat grill with a broth-filled pot for moist heat) techniques; there are many barbecue-steakhouse restaurants throughout the city, and the style of this region combines influences from the AmericanDeep South (particularly from the Louisiana area and Kansas City) with Canadian aboriginal, Irish, Central European, and Mediterranean influences, particularly French, German, and Greek.

 

[resonance]

I'd pick San Fran, though I'm not really fond of either. In particular, I don't get why anyone would ever want to move to Montreal.