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Scientists Finds the Beginnings of Morality in Primate Behaviours

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The New York Times

March 20, 2007

Scientist Finds the Beginnings of Morality in Primate Behavior

By NICHOLAS WADE

Some animals are surprisingly sensitive to the plight of others. Chimpanzees, who cannot swim, have drowned in zoo moats trying to save others. Given the chance to get food by pulling a chain that would also deliver an electric shock to a companion, rhesus monkeys will starve themselves for several days.

Biologists argue that these and other social behaviors are the precursors of human morality. They further believe that if morality grew out of behavioral rules shaped by evolution, it is for biologists, not philosophers or theologians, to say what these rules are.

Moral philosophers do not take very seriously the biologists’ bid to annex their subject, but they find much of interest in what the biologists say and have started an academic conversation with them.

The original call to battle was sounded by the biologist Edward O. Wilson more than 30 years ago, when he suggested in his 1975 book “Sociobiology” that “the time has come for ethics to be removed temporarily from the hands of the philosophers and biologicized.” He may have jumped the gun about the time having come, but in the intervening decades biologists have made considerable progress.

Last year Marc Hauser, an evolutionary biologist at Harvard, proposed in his book “Moral Minds” that the brain has a genetically shaped mechanism for acquiring moral rules, a universal moral grammar similar to the neural machinery for learning language. In another recent book, “Primates and Philosophers,” the primatologist Frans de Waal defends against philosopher critics his view that the roots of morality can be seen in the social behavior of monkeys and apes.

Dr. de Waal, who is director of the Living Links Center at Emory University, argues that all social animals have had to constrain or alter their behavior in various ways for group living to be worthwhile. These constraints, evident in monkeys and even more so in chimpanzees, are part of human inheritance, too, and in his view form the set of behaviors from which human morality has been shaped.

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ttp://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/20/science/20moral.html?em&ex=1174622400&en=340b1c2f848ea62f&ei=5087%0A

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Now that is a quandary, isn't it?

Apes with family values? Which way will the religious right go on this one, I wonder? Evolution or morality?
Their heads may explode from the moral quandary before we ever find out!
 
That's pretty amazing, and reading some of that just made me say "Aaaw" because it was so sweet.
 
Awesome! The "Christian Agenda" has been beating society over the head for years with the idea that without religion, there could be no morals. Now we have science on our side to show you can be a good person without belonging to a cult. In yo' face, Christians! :gogirl:
 
Well, that should make people who say "Animals don't have souls and won't go to heaven," think. ...Or not.
 
yes, fascinating indeed. I, too, wonder if other monkeys make value judgements about whether any given actions of a particular monkey are "moral" or "immoral." I wonder what kohlberg would make of this development?
 
I'm reminded of the theory in "A Beautiful Mind" about group support.

But the guy was crazy, wasn't he?

Btw, RationalLunacy, when do you turn into the Tin Man? and does that
really explain your "oil can" <evil grin>?
 
Animals are much more like us than we realize. Elephants in the wild have been seen to bury and mourn there dead. We are finding that dolphins are more intelligent than we realize, and have a complex language. These things go to show that animals have a sense of self, and individuality we use to think only belonged to Man.
 
I wonder if humans will ever follow the primates example? Lately, it seems that humans are going in the wrong direction.
 
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